Do public transportations operate at a massive loss?
6Hji3Y
No.375461
The recent Indigo fiasco got me thinking as to why the hell the commercial aviation industry totally ain't run by the gobbermint? Do public transportations like buses, railways, etc., operate at a loss? If so by how much? Why not have them set up in such a way that they neither make a profit nor a loss, but just enough to keep up with the inflation and keeping the organization running?
FcVLLL
No.375464
>>375461(OP)
We can travel in ancient vimaan and teleport
6Hji3Y
No.375466
>>375464
just stfu faggot. either contriboot or gtfo
E4pPoa
No.375471
that's because, most leeches here dont pay taxes .
z7IR7u
No.375473
>>375461(OP)
They operate at a loss because they are taxpayer funded, the contribution to soceity is greater than the losses incurred.
/aKmCo
No.375475
>>375461(OP)
Airlines will remain loss making because we are energy dependent. We should have more HSRs. Fire up nuclear reactors speed through our three stage nuclear program.
>Inb4 we import nuclear fuel
Three stage nuclear program.
3l2yp/
No.375476
>>375461(OP)
Yes indian railways always run in loss
>Why not have them set up in such a way that they neither make a profit nor a loss
That would require increasing ticket prices. And it will result in public seethe.
It's surprising you with just 200 you can travel from Delhi to Hyderabad
/aKmCo
No.375478
>>375461(OP)
In general aviation industry is very risk sensitive, it needs more precision and corporate type work expertise. Government babus can shit the bed hard.
Even our metros are corporatized.
vj4WMO
No.375481
>>375461(OP)
Only midwits think a system is only ran well based on the ism be supports. There are good and bad privately run train system and good and bad state run systems.
In general, there are a few routes that are very profitable while rest are not. Normally, you subsides the loss making routes with those profitable ones. Other than that, there are also other ways to raise revenues.
Main thing however is that a transist system isn't successful based on just the revenue. From a macro economic point, the train system can increase growth in neighbourhood regions, help being workers to buisness and other such postive benifits that don't get reflected by balance sheets.
lDilj1
No.375482
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eEQeYn
No.375486
>>375461(OP)
Yes. Not just Transport but mainly every service is mainly run at losss and covered by premium services availed by richfags.
6Hji3Y
No.375487
>>375481
I understand the possibility that loss running services can indirectly pay for itself by economic development, but surely we can set up railways in a better way, rite?
>how?
idk
>It's surprising you with just 200 you can travel from Delhi to Hyderabad
zamn. I only use buses or metro, but this level of affordability is insane
>>375471
gst?
>>375475
then how are private players still playing it?
>inb4 regular gobbermint bailouts
fr?
/aKmCo
No.375491
>>375487
Indigo managed to make profit, it can sustain its operational cost and more or less they were praised bar recent fiasco.
E4pPoa
No.375504
>>375487
the tax generation isnt enough in itself. most of our infra projects run on loans. how do you think hsr is being built? its because of our good relations with japan and they also know india is a good market for their goods.
6Hji3Y
No.375514
>>375504
>taxes
again, is gst not working then?
how do other public sector firms like coal india, ongc manage to make a profit then?
b62UAV
No.375515
>>375461(OP)
>Do public transportations operate at a massive loss
yeah, because they basically have access to unlimited gobarmint (taxpayer) money, so they don't care about optimising their business, instead you get lots of corruption, shit quality, no innovation etc etc.
And it isn't just transportation, all gobarmint comoanies are like that, example BSNL, India Post etc.
>>375464
>>375470
chal be gandu
>>375471
>not enough money saar
yeah this is go to excuse after babus digest all the taxpayer money.
6Hji3Y
No.375532
>>375515
transportation is unironically an untapped market wrt efficient allocation & management of resources ig
vj4WMO
No.375594
>>375487
You don't build train system with the present or even the next decades at mind, you build for the next century or two. You simply cannot plan that far ahead. For example, just look at the shift in gravity of India's population towards the north today and consider the implications of it.
Building a good system isn't about having a good vision and executing it, but having the flexibility to solve issues that comes around.
zZnxC9
No.375603
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https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2118003®=3&lang=2
>Indian Railways Achieves ₹2.56 Lakh Crore Revenue in 2023-24 with Net Profit of ₹3,260 Crore
[Blocked URL: https://www.ndtvprofit.com/quarterly-earnings/irctc-q2-results-profit-rises-interim-dividend-announced]
>The Delhi Metro Rail Corporation earned a mammoth revenue of Rs 6645 crores last year. As per DMRC’s financial statements, the total revenue generated in financial year 2022-23 was Rs 6645.06 crore, inclusive of income from traffic operations, real estate, consultancy and external projects.On the other hand, the total expenditure incurred in that same financial year was Rs 5833.81 crore.
FcVLLL
No.375605
>>375515
Itni si baat pe mirchi lagg gyi rote reh ab insecure
Tqmr1r
No.375624
>>375481
>There are good and bad privately run train system.
Except for the fact that bad incompetent private systems fall out of business whereas you have to just suck it up when government departments are bad
vj4WMO
No.375636
>>375624
That's bullshit. Plenty of private sector corporations have gotten massive bailouts before.
T9hUNg
No.375642
>>375624
>bad incompetent private systems fall out of business whereas
6Hji3Y
No.376070
>>375603
interdasting
b62UAV
No.376076
>>375605
chal be gandu
b62UAV
No.376080
>>375642
>this fake news again
this got debunked months ago
And anyways the culture of crony capitalism was started during soycialist license Raj.
b62UAV
No.376084
>>375532
>efficient allocation
All economics is basically this, there are finite resources, the entity doesn't matter, efficiency and productivity matters, people who think a corporation can't be a government and a government can't be a corporation are retarded.
b62UAV
No.376089
A government that that can implement socio-biologicl eugenics will win, it is simple.
Do you guys know why Europeans won? Because they went though it thanks to christian extremism and black death.
What india needs is a mass culling and Eugenics.
Tqmr1r
No.376100
>>375636
Bailouts are anti free market. Its government intervention.
o47TmY
No.376103
We need 15000+ km of HSR by 2047. India is capable of it. We just need to awaken ourselves.
India is the most suitable place for HSR lines like that.
Tqmr1r
No.376114
>>376089
Eugenics is dangerous slippery slope tho. If you eliminate sub 80 iq people, the presently 100 iq midwits will become the new low iq class and us currently 120 iq folks will become thr new midwits. This slippery slope is quite dangerous for everyone barring elite among elite perhaps.
6Hji3Y
No.376116
>>376103
operating speeds?
>15k km track
I think only naarth needs it, especially from amritsar to kolkata
FcVLLL
No.376160
>>376076
Aur ro
o47TmY
No.376163
>>376116
HSR and SHSR at bare minimum 220kmph.
Ru5Fs0
No.376167
>>376103
Yaaar first we need to deal with chutiyaas such as this.
zHE9K7
No.376171
>>376103
per capita productivity of indians is very low. Why HSR and why not flights and lakhs of airports in all villages ?
We don't need HSR, we need seating high capacity trains due to huge population movement. Our cities don't have enough space to settle everyone. Metros are already working beyond carrying capacity.
zHE9K7
No.376174
>>376167
chandigarh shouldn't be pushed as a financial hub unless you want to attract muslims from kashmir.
She is right.
Ru5Fs0
No.376175
>>376167
These entitled asthetic ke chodey babu log will be the death of this nation.
WlbgQF
No.376177
>>376167
grim
Ru5Fs0
No.376180
>>376174
No she isn't.
The traffic is killing the city each passing day. It takes around 15-20 minutes in peak traffic hours to even cross a red light.
Metro is need of the hour.
zHE9K7
No.376191
>>376180
muslims will come with metro
Ru5Fs0
No.376199
>>376191
kek
Muslims from kashmir are already working in many companies in the IT park.
Even in PU there is a significant kashmiri muslim population.
They form there own little groups and keep conniving among themselves, like the little rascals they are.
zHE9K7
No.376202
>>376199
metros and IT park should be developed in srinagar
Tqmr1r
No.376205
>>376180
That will surely help with congestion, right pajeet? If they cant fix delhi mumbai traffic what makes you think they can fix it? We need european approach of walkability and public transport. We arent a low population density country like US.
zHE9K7
No.376208
Ru5Fs0
No.376211
>>376208
She got multiple myeloma from multiple badduas from wagies like me.
Ru5Fs0
No.376214
>>376205
Chandigarh is not Mumbai/Banglore/Delhi.
It doesn't have that huge of a population, which is why metro will easily solve the current traffic situation of the city.
vj4WMO
No.376255
Tqmr1r
No.376256
>>376255
No ideology exists in its purest form. Free market is still the best we got. It builds nations, it brings prosperity and most importantly it has been tried and has worked.
Tqmr1r
No.376259
>>376214
>Just need metro bro I swear all our urban mismanagement problems will be solved forever vro.
