/pol/ - Politics

Yes sir, the world's most successful and intelligent community keep racking up wins...

Whilst white peepo are busy figuring out what gender to be and embarrassing themselves or overdosing on drugs

Or black people are crying about racism and committing crime at alarming rates

And Hispanics and Arabs are being general nuisances

Indians are doing what they do best, studying hard subjects and continuing to contribute in ways others cannot

Elon Musk pays his respects to the Hindu gurus who he says power the future of technology

We accept your praise Elon... Let's go to Mars soon

https://www.indiatvnews.com/amp/technology/news/elon-musk-praises-indian-origin-engineer-says-without-him-we-d-just-be-another-car-company-2024-06-09-936066

>>176254(OP)

>Dutchbhangi praises Pajeets

Not a surprise tbh. Almost every single NRI I know is a servile gusano-tier neolib chaatu.

>>176254(OP)

L Larp

>>176453

Where do you live saars?

>>176667

I live in lundia wonly but literally everyone from my kaalej and friend network left for USA, Canada or Germany.

I thought Musk fired all women, pajeets, and diversity hire and his companies are being run by few white people who are "real engineers". That's what people were saying on social media anyway

>>189089

>pic related engineering team of x

>most are jeets and chinese

kekek there was huge meltdown on twitter and /g/ when the first time this pic was released, the mental gymnastics which wignats came up to cope was hilarious

>>176254(OP)

don't really care but one of the early investor was some indian american in tesla.

Dunno about spaceX.

>>189090

What mental gymnastics in 4chan? Post ss

>>189089

He fired women and useless liberal moids which are mostly soy sipping white men like pic related.

>>189090

Wignat cope is something else. They really believe white women aren't the biggest randis in the world or that white/western culture is the prime conductor of degeneracy around the world.

>>189137

>>176254(OP) world's most intelligent community

retard,you're literally equating diaspora indians who're like the top 1% of Indians in terms of skill and wealth with all Indians .

If your avg Indian was really this high iq competent individual then india wouldn't have been such a sh*thole of a nation and would've actually competing with China

>>189137

Are you retarded? You shouldn't be the ones talking about western degeneracy when have a much bigger problem than that "degeneracy" you talk about,such as your own rape and other crime ridden culture .

Or lemme guess, you the type of guy to comment " atleast our sisters don't have only fans "

>>196967

this tbh

>>196968

>rape and crime culture

Proof?

At least our sisters don't have onlyfans kek.

>>196968

Also, my god how low IQ are you that you missed the entire point of the post there retard.

But I guess you're one of those bhimtabhangis who unironically says 'but muh unreported stats' for every days point you can't explain kek.

Here's an excercise for your low IQ brain to ponder chamar. Why is domestic violence reported relatively higher in Lundia compared to other countries yet rape reported so low? If your argument is that domestic abuse is less likely to go unreported than rape, then kekketty kekkety kek.

>>199616

*data points

*more likely

>>199609

What proof ? You yourself made a negative iq ragebait level comment claiming "white women are the biggest randis in the World " " white culture biggest conductor of degeneracy " you gotta have insane levels of mental retardation to actually believe that shit .

Also Thinking that USA's high crime rates make all white countries in contest with India's crime rates is diabolical and apart from the US ,the other white nations in europe are far more safer than India ( you must be out of touch with reality to actually disagree with this shit jfl)

>>199609

You're asking for proof as if you yourself didn't make a pathetic generalization that "white nations cultures are nothing but conductors of degeneracy and their women are the biggest whores in the whole world"

there are tons of white nations with seperate cultures of their own and Negative iq turds like you who don't know shit about their distinct cultures go on to make such ragebait level type shit.

Also,you didn't prove anything through your "stats" as those literally show Western/white countries safer than india.white nations(especially many European countries) are literally far more safer than india in general and especially for women , you gotta be out of touch with reality to not believe that shit .

What makes it even funnier is that you're literally from a third world shith*le with a huge crime problem talking for "muh culture n shit " about nations who're literally a lot safer than your own and leagues ahead of your own .

>>199616

I didn't miss the point of the post , i understood it i simply replied to the stupid shit you just said kek

>>200023

>didn't make a pathetic generalization that "white nations cultures are nothing but conductors of degeneracy and their women are the biggest whores in the whole world"

Did I? Where?

>>200032

Considering you posted above, you clearly did kek.

>white women are the biggest randis in the World

Is it wrong tho? I can post proof for that too kek. And America is unitonically one of the least 'rand' white cunts if your argooment is that other white cunts exists.

Anyways that argument is independent of your claims so me asking for proofs for those claims isn't 'burden of proof' fallacy.

Learn how 'logical fallacies' actually works retard.

>Thinking that USA's high crime rates make all white countries in contest with India's crime rates is diabolical

It's pretty retarded that you're throwing in buzzwords with full confidence without anything to back up.

The next populous 'white' countries (UK, France, etc...) also have pretty high crime rates.

If you compare multi factoral per wealth per capita weighted analysis, India has pretty low crime rate, in fact one of the lowest crime rates for its income bracket. Asian countries in general are low in crime compared to Europe despite being poorer(See how it's even lower than Oceania which is mostly just Australia).

>you must be out of touch with reality to actually disagree with this shit jfl

Once again it's remarkable that you shit claims with no proof with such confidence. It's a marvel really how retarded one can be when he has no idea what he's talking about.

>>200023

>Also,you didn't prove anything through your "stats" as those literally show Western/white countries safer than india

Did I? Your argument was that India has a 'srs 'rape and crime' problem.

I asked you to explain how is it so then rape is so low. I posted the domestic abuse stat because muh 'underreported' is an oft repeated argument when this brought up, but this rule seems to not apply to domestic aboose reporting, something that is far more likely to get underreported.

Please read what I wrote before seething and making an angry post kek. It's honestly embarrassing. How old are you?

>>200023

>there are tons of white nations with seperate cultures of their own and Negative iq turds like you who don't know shit about their distinct cultures go on to make such ragebait level type shit.

Btw those 'less degen' white cunts like East Yuro or Russia are even worse when it comes to murder, rape and crime than Lundia. And if you include Latam cunts(which might not be 'white' but definitely 'western') India will look like pacifist good goys.

>>200092

"Did I ? Where ?" Read your post again to which I replied to

" Is it wrong tho ? " Yeah it is , now go on post the data about how what you're saying is absolutely right .

Retarded generalization kek , it's just like the " atleast our sisters don't have only fans " shitty argument

"Asian countries are low in crime to European countries despite being poorer " once again When tf did I talk about asia , I'm comparing india and the white nations overall in terms of crime n shit .

"India has pretty low crime ..."

When compared to india , for women and over-all safety of people, these nations are much better than India.If you ask most NRI women who have been living in EU nations especially those who live in nations like norway and Denmark for quite a while that if they ever want to come back to India and live here ,then most of em would say no .

There's a reason a lot of third-worldies die to go to these EU countries, and those who do successfully immigrate will never come back if given as an option for obvious reasons like high quality of life and overall safety. So many NRI's who have previously lived in India lowkey prefer continuing to live in the west and nations like australia ,new zealand for overall lifestyle and might even never come to back cause of obvious reasons and anyone who has visited most of Europe and india can easily tell you the difference in safety, especially if they're a solo female traveller,Atleast women can walk safely at night times In european countries unlike here where they have to be so much more cautious about not getting harassed . The level of safety and the quality of life in the EU and the US which indians abroad experience literally makes them settle abroad and never come back to India and retards like you are telling me that india has a pretty low crime rate as compared to these european nations JFL

>>200092

"Less degenerates.. " mfs simply picked up a stereotype about Onlyfans going big in the US and now we have brain -dead folks like you saying " white woman whore cause muh onlyfans and shi" and western Nations being more accepting of the LGBTQ and now you say that white people's culture is degeneracy .

the anglo-sphere , the Southern Europeans, the Eastern europeans including the Balkans,all of their cultures have every aspect of a "real culture" just like all cultures around the world such as language,food , architecture, traditional attires and art and others. They have a rich culture and history of their own just like other continents, dismissing it all and saying " DEGeNeraCy is ThEIr CuLTuRe" seems dumb

So , elaborate what's so degenerate about them ?

Also, Don't act like this "degeneracy" you speak of isn't in India yet kek . It was here and is continuously spreading.

>>200191

>Yeah it is

Proof?

You can just check up stats on sexual promiscuity such as number of life time partners or prevalence of STIs and prove me wrong kek instead of meme tier le onlyfans argument.

I'll be here waiting for your explanation how tf a third world shitholes like India and Pakistan that almost never practice safe sex have a lower STD rate than most Western countries.

https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/std-rates-by-country

>once again When tf did I talk about asia , I'm comparing india and the white nations overall in terms of crime n shit .

India is in Asia. Also you gorilla retard, I already posted India's intentional homicide rate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_India

If your too low IQ to understand, India has an intentional homicide rate same as Europe as a whole here >>200092 i e 2.1

My god, do you even bother reading these posts?

>When compared to india , for women and over-all safety of people, these nations are much better than India.

Again, proof? Anecdotal statements aren't proof kek.

>If you ask most NRI women who have been living in EU nations

Most NRI men would answer the same retard, this counts as proof in no way. I myself know plenty of women who don't want to go abroad. This anecdotal statement means jackshit you retard. There's slavic foids who immigrated to gelf who rather stay in gelf than go back to East Yurope.

>Peace and security (((index)))

Nice meme stats you got there dude

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women,_Peace_and_Security_Index

Only one problem, 'security' is only factor in this multi faceted index retard. The overall ranking in this meme stat really means jack shit in the subject being discussed about retard.

>especially those who live in nations like norway and Denmark

Already moving goalposts from white nations to handful of few white cunts with historical advantages like low population, high wealth and resources, etc... already kek.

>>200191

>High quality of life and overall safety

Most people go abroad for education and career opportunities not available you retard. Not for meme 'safety and security' lmao.

But I guess this is what chamaretards like you think reason why people go abroad.

>never come back to India and retards like you are telling me that india has a pretty low crime rate as compared to these european nations JFL

Oh but it does you nigher.

It's funny you seethe about 'generalization' while generalizing Yuropeans and Whites to a few migrant cities like SF and London to where these jeeta migrate to kek 😂

>mfs simply picked up a stereotype

It's not a stereotype if it's true.

>They have a rich culture and history of their own just like other continents

Culture of raping, pillaging and then turning back and claiming them as their own?

Very high culture indeed sirs.

>>200279

>>200276

>>200259

Also as an addendum, if being so rich you don't even know what to do with it so you use most of the money you have to raise your adults until they're 30 is what gets coomskins to any 'civilized', then it's probably not civilized to begin with kek.

>>200283

Hence why bringing up countries like Denmark and Norway is so fucking retarded. But I guess your chamarbuddhi probably don't understand scarcity, a quality that most chamars lack kek.(Hence the constant demand for gibs).

>>200279

"Most people go abroad for education..."

they do go there for education and career opportunities, but if they ever get an opportunity to settle down there , vast majority of them will become eu citizens without any hesitation cause they know it's miles better than lundia in every aspect , and if they do settle down ,they will never come back cause obvious reasons i stated.

"Most NRI men would answer the same ..."

Lundbuddhi why do you think they would answer the same ? It's because they all know the answer lowkey which is that there's no sense in returning to a third world shith*le from their lifestyle in the west, why would someone give up their life in Germany to return to India ?kek

Also, there's nothing anecdotal about this as it's literally the common fucking sentiment xd you fucking pig , majority of people who live in shith*le third-world nations would immediately settle down in European countries if given the chance, people wanting to move to better countries ain't anecdotal ,lundbuddhi . No one would be flocking to EU nations borders if they weren't the so called "safe-developed first world nations " fucking room temperature iq merchant .

>>200276

"Nice meme stat" how pea-brained are you dude ? You literally used the same source- Statista's stat against me and when I am the one who used the same source , it suddenly becomes a "meme stats " LMAO , make it make sense retard

>>200308

>Statista's stat against me and when I am the one who used the same source

How much of a retard are you holy shit.

Same source kek. Nighar, same source different stats. That site also nhas stats cancer death rates and sex exchange and apple farming rates and shit whatever. I won't post those stats in here just because they're from the source kek 😂

Learn to fuckin READ chamar and post the RELEVANT stats. Not whatever you feel like.

Multi faceted indexes like those isn't a good measurement for this argument we're having here.

It's pretty funny that you're so bad at it that more than half of your post is just posting what I said kek.

>>200306

>and if they do settle down ,they will never come back cause obvious reasons i stated

They settle there because of career opportunities and chances of growth, not because of meme 'a chamar might jump on my thotter at night' or 'I'll be graped by my mami at night' fear you're stating. On that note, its nrinighers that mostly vote in to bring in more pajeets in to those countries. Somehow according to your logic, they hate pajeets so much they want to countries to turn in to another India 😂

How hard is this for you to understand retard?

>Lundbuddhi why do you think they would answer the same ?

Again chamar, READ instead of smelling your own farts.

>it's not andcdotal

But it is chamar. Again TALK to other people and listen to what they say instead of smelling your own fucking farts and shit and assuming everyone likes it you absolute gorilla retard.

We had a 200000 post saying he don't want to leave this cunt.

>>200306

>No one would be flocking to EU nations borders if they weren't the so called "safe-developed first world nations " fucking room temperature iq merchant

Also, those people 'flocking' to EU border nations are those from countries that EU wiggers destabilised themselves you absolute retard.

Pajeet immigration to EU on the other hand is pretty low. EU doesn't offer much to jeets as they lack in tech and engineering opportunities unlike Angloid countries. There's more immigration to gelf cunts in comparison.

>>200316

Like my gawd, even I didn't know there's more people going to South Africa than going to Jewrope kek.

>>200276

"You can check up stats "

- says "white woman biggest whore"

- gives a stat to prove his point

- stats literally shows that the top 75 doesn't have any white countries, and the top 100 has less white countries but more African,latam and asian countries.

LMAO and this bhangi chamaran is telling me to READ 🤣, Chaman ,how about mindlessly showing me stats ? You care Reading them yourselves first , Holy shit and this bhangi acting like he's a genius or sum .

"Nice cultures you got their sirs "

Lundbuddhi, the same logic can applied to shit tons of nations, ethnicities such as the Japanese,Mongols , the Turks ,the Arabs and heck even the Indigenous peoples from the Americas whose ancestors used to sacrifice other humans and slaughtered other tribes . It can be easily used to dismiss their cultures too. Chamar, this can be used in another ways , such as against India- " Culture of what ? Scamming , filth and a lack of total civic sense (especially with the fact that Indian cities and towns are fkinng dirty, polluted and filthy to the point that even sub Saharan African countries are cleaner than them despite being poorer) it's crazy how Bhangis can be so confident while being retarded at the same time ,holy cope

>>200323

>stats literally shows that the top 75 doesn't have any white countries, and the top 100 has less white countries but more African,latam and asian countries.

Arey chamar, did you miss my point.

All these countries have excuse of not having access to le safe sex.

Yet despite having access to le safe sex, western cunts still have it higher than lundia.

I guess you might not follow logic and its conclusions.

But here's how it goes

>country group A does more of X

>Doing more of X leads to more of P

>P can be reduced somewhat if you do Y

>Country group B does less of Y

>Yey they've less of P than A

>Despite A doing Y more

Now, is it hard for your 75 IQ brain to follow.

Here's more stats just in case

>the same logic can applied to shit tons of nations, ethnicities such as the Japanese,Mongols , the Turks ,the Arabs and heck even the Indigenous peoples

Well fortunately, we're not talking about them here. Why are you bringing them up lmao.

Our comparison was India vs other white countries. Don't be moving goalposts when you're starting to lose chamar 😂

>Culture of what ? Scamming , filth and a lack of total civic sense

Don't project your traditional job on to everyone else chamar 😂

>it's crazy how Bhangis can be so confident while being retarded at the same time ,holy cope

More projection from the 75 IQ chamarbufdhi

>>200367

More detailed chart. In this case, they don't even bother hiding it. In fact there proud of it kek 😂

And you be here simping and defending for white wimmin's purity jfl

https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/1act36t/most_promiscous_countries/

>>200367

In case that greentexts confused your 80 iq brain, the answer is because A does X much much more than B.

>>200371

"They settle there because of career opportunities....."

Bullshit, They do go their for the said reasons but once they get to settle there and , they do it instantly because that place is also simply much better in the overall quality of life than their own shith*les .

most Indians who are well settled obviously don't wanna comeback as they went there for career reasons but once they realised that the new country is so much better than the countries they left and the life is much better.

"I myself know plenty of women ...."

My god, which world are you living in 😂?

Even the most "deshbhakt"mfs

would move to these white Nations given the chances without any hesitation and here you are trying to make shit up online like a fking clown.

Even most jeetas who end up living in western countries don't wanna return to lundia cause of the lifestyle and freedom they enjoy there , Do you seriously live in a cave or sum ? Cause it's embarrassing . Go outside and stop jerking your own shit

>>200367

"Well unfortunately, we're not talking about them here " Chaman , the retarded logic you Just used can be easily used to dismiss any country's culture by simply picking out a specific part of history, region specific crime and can be described as the said country' culture, for example , getting mugged at gunpoint is a common crime in Mexico and can be used as "culture of what ? Getting mugged by gundas ? "

It's funny how say this shit chamar and then talk about iq and shi 😂

"Don't project your traditional jobs on to everyone else "

It's not projection,it's the TRUTH Chamar, go outside and find out yourselves. If India was such a clean,non polluted country and it's citizens had a great civic sense then it wouldn't be such a shith*le and would actually be the "vishwaguru" that Bhangis like you claim it to be.

>>200367

>>200279

"Oh but it does you nighar.."

Again chamar I can provide you the stats clearly showing the White countries as safer than india but your room temperature level iq will not accept it and go on to dismiss it saying "muh MeMe StAt " anything you disagree with doesn't become a "Meme" you absolute bhangi

>>200279

The funny thing is ,there is Sweden included in this list but the crimes there are not even done mostly by your avg ethnic Swedish white male , but are actually committed more on average by dudes with migrant background (mainly from MENA region) and nationalities like somalians generally are more involved in crime in countries like norway and Finland .

>>200312

Kek even the poor parts of yurop like the Balkan countries like Bosnia , Montenegro and some other Eastern european countries are safer for women than lundia kek

The "degeneracy" you speak about has already reached east Asian nations and Will soon reach other nations as they become developed at some point and become more "liberal" " progressive" and more tolerant which will eventually happen to so many Nations .

India is behind because india isn't like that..."yet"

and there are taboos regarding these things and people still aren't as accepting as much as the west in many parts that's why it's the way it is . it has already reached the tier 1 cities in India and will only continue to spread .

Even yurop was very conservative regarding these issues at some point but the same thing which I just talked about happened to them and hence they are the way they are right now . It isn't a white/european only thing ,but spans across every Nation that becomes more and more accepting and tolerant or "progressive" " modern" whatever stuff that is .

But your lundbuddhi can't comprehend any of it, so it's pretty useless

>>200581

>Peace and security index

Arey chamar, you bring this up again and again. Please read up what it measures, it's not measuring 'safety of walking out at night'.

'Parliamentary representation' isn't an indication of safety of a country.

I call it a meme stat because you don't even understand what it measures and just keeps on posting it again and again. Even chatgpt shows more self awareness.

>>200583

One again, I'll remind you that we're talking about India, not MENA cunts. Also only 40% of the fringes are committed by people of ethnic backgrounds. Rest 60% is committed by native swedes themselves kek.

>>200602

>Kek even the poor parts of yurop like the Balkan countries like Bosnia , Montenegro and some other Eastern european countries are safer for women than lundia kek

I guess considering the average career of a woman is being a literal prostitute, it might be pretty safe, like how women are the safest in red street areas.

>The "degeneracy" you speak about has already reached east Asian nations and Will soon reach other nations as they become developed at some point and become more "liberal" " progressive" and more tolerant which will eventually happen to so many Nations .

So you basically admit I was right so along. Then why the seethe for so long lmao.

>>200577

>They aren't returning

About that

https://www.thehindu.com/data/indians-who-migrate-abroad-see-incomes-double-residents-need-20-years-to-catch-up/article68569319.ece

>The report states that about 40% of all migrants eventually return to their country of origin. However, the number varies based on destination. All migrants leave Gulf Cooperation Council countries. About 20% to 50% of migrants leave OECD countries within five to 10 years of arrival or move to a third country. Less than 20% of migrants leave the U.S. Those who do are mostly from high-income regions such as Western Europe, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand — in these cases, the return rates are over 40% (Chart 5). The return rate of Asian migrants in the U.S. is about 20%.

>The return rate of Asian migrants in the U.S. is about 20%.

1 in 5 who immigrate returns a within a decade and the return rate is almost the same for men and women.

And only around 30% apply for PR and even lower who change citizenship.

>My god, which world are you living in 😂?

Please talk to more people then.

>Go outside and stop jerking your own shit

Look who's talking. You've yet to post one stat supporting your claim other than keeping posting the same 'women's safety' meme map.

>>200602

>Even yurop was very conservative regarding these issues at some point but the same thing which I just talked about happened to them and hence they are the way they are right now

Yurop was never really 'conservative'. Yuropean cunts especially Western and Northern countries were always like this. They've historically, always had nuclear families, high age of marriage(relative to other countries), women owning properties, etc... since the middle ages. They've always been a pretty hyper materialist culture hyper consoomerist culture hence why rest of Europe looked down on them for so long until they started empire building in the 17th and 18th centuries post industrial revolution which gave them a headstart, not their 'culture'.

Please don't do confidentially shoot your shit when you're so historically illiterate.

>>200669

This article goes in to detail how different European culture of family and upbringing was different from rest of the world. Maybe educate yourself instead of being a whig historian retard.

https://mises.org/mises-wire/rise-western-nuclear-family-and-european-miracle

(Of course the article glazes over it and praises it because mises is a lolbertarian think tank while ignoring the fact that only reason history favoured such a culture was because industrial revolution happened).

>>200676

Jewropean analysts(and whig historian retards like you) think that culture is important prerequisite for the eventual economic growth which is what East Asian economies proved them wrong.

>>200602

>The "degeneracy" you speak about has already reached east Asian nations

Easy Asian nations other than China and Vietnam haven't had any good growth in the last two decades. Especially Japan, whose economy literally shrinked.

Then becoming more 'degenerate' when if anything their wealth is in decline isn't supporting your argument lol.

>>200669

"Please don't shoot your shit when you're historically Illiterate"

Ironic as it's said by someone who takes up a piece of history or a common crime in that country and describes it as the said country's culture 😂 " ah yes this nation has conquered other nations in the past now I'm gonna describe it as the country's culture like the low iq bhangi I am "

" Yurop was never conservative...."

You're the one who is historically illiterate with this statement alone and this bhangi is projecting it on me with such confidence 😂

A continent where the church was literally the dominant force for a lot of time shaping norms n shit for the whole medieval period ,where the moral behaviour was strictly regulated by the Church including laws for blasphemy, witchcraft and promiscuousity.

Where women were confined to domestic roles and expected to be obedient and books challenging the church and it's religious beliefs were burned .

The early modern period where absolute monarchies promoted religion and tradition with marriage and reproduction being strictly regulated .

Also when I meant by " being conservative " i also focused on promiscuousity which I you previously talked about, Sexual freedom back then was heavily restricted and adultery literally resulted in Shaming and serious consequences.

Tons of regimes throughout its history strongly promoted religion and traditions n shit.

Although it wasn't entirely conservative , there were movements to challenge conservatism like the renaissance, the enlightenment era and most ly the 20th century era where movements advocating for gender rights and LGBTQ arose .

This is just basic history you low iq chamar , can't wait for the mental gymnastics you'll come up with to tell me how promiscuousity was still very famous in medieval yurop kek

Doesn't know shit and acts like he's a genius or sum with sheer confidence.

>>200676

"Europe was never conservative "

This alone is embarassing, pick up some history book lundbuddhi 😂,it wasn't even until the enlightenment era when the attitudes towards relationships , sexuality began to shift and more modern and liberal views arose .

This is fking basic history which you can find anywhere, how retarded and mentally ill can one be my god

>>200819

>piece of history or a common crime in that country and describes it as the said country's culture

But that's how culture works lol.

>this nation has conquered other nations in the past now I'm gonna describe it as the country's culture like the low iq bhangi I am

Its not just conquering, its the only one that did the particular type of conquering called 'colonisation' which not only siphons of resources and wealth from the conquered lands at a massive industrial scale but also tried to culturally genocide the very countries they conquered and leeching off.

Islamic conquerers only did the latter(They mostly settled in the lands they conquered). Most non abrahamic conquerors did the first maybe at a smaller scale via suzereinity deals.

Only Europeans have done both barbaric acts at a massive industrial scale. Only Europeans have ever attempted to literally industrialize genocide.

>>200819

>piece of history or a common crime in that country and describes it as the said country's culture

But that's how culture works lol.

>this nation has conquered other nations in the past now I'm gonna describe it as the country's culture like the low iq bhangi I am

Its not just conquering, its the only one that did the particular type of conquering called 'colonisation' which not only siphons of resources and wealth from the conquered lands at a massive industrial scale but also tried to culturally genocide the very countries they conquered and leeching off.

Islamic conquerers only did the latter(They mostly settled in the lands they conquered). Most non abrahamic conquerors did the first maybe at a smaller scale via suzereinity deals.

Only Europeans have done both barbaric acts at a massive industrial scale. Only Europeans have ever attempted to literally industrialize genocide.

>>200834

>it wasn't even until the enlightenment era when the attitudes towards relationships , sexuality began to shift and more modern and liberal views arose

Oh my God.

Yeah bro some goys wrote some books and suddenly everything changed bro.

Arey chamar, history isn't a movie where a turning point happens at some point and things change on the drop of a hat. Enligthenment was a continuing process that was already building up on developments that happened in Jewrope in previous centuries.

Please, if you don't know what happened, pls shut the fuck up and read a fucking book.

>basic history which you can find anywhere

Yeah, as I said, you are a literal retard armed with pop history shooting shit with confidence.

>>200819

>,where the moral behaviour was strictly regulated by the Church including laws for blasphemy, witchcraft and promiscuousity.

Are you aware that most witch burnings and inquisitions happened literally during the enlightment era.

There was almost no record of witch burning during the so called 'dark ages'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_hunt

In fact most witch burnings happened in the protestant cuntries, not the Catholic ones.

My god, please read a fucking book on actual medieval era instead of spewing r/atheism pop history.

>>200819

>Where women were confined to domestic roles and expected to be obedient and books challenging the church and it's religious beliefs were burned .

Again fucking read a book.

Women have been owning property and running businesses in Jewrope(and rest of the world for that matter) for fucking centuries.

Most medieval art depicts women working in fields, cotton weaving places, etc... instead of doing housework

Infact the meme of the housewife if anything is a post industrial concept when the income of a single man was enough to feed a household.

My god, this level of historical illiteracy and here you are using emojis.

Also please stop reusing my insults and ending all statements with 'smell your shit' or some variation of my og insult. Get creative chamar.

>>200819

>Sexual freedom back then was heavily restricted and adultery literally resulted in Shaming and serious consequences.

No you absolute coon, in fact the christian church even considered prostitution a necessary evil and promoted its existence.

https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2019/06/25/augustines-de-ordine-and-his-comment-on-prostitution/

Western cunts have always been degenerate. Even the church couldn't do anything to stop it despite your r/atheism tier pop historical assumptions.

>>200819

>LGBTQ arose .

Kek. Are you aware that Mid century Germany was the world center for LGBT rights? They literally started the first gay bar.

https://www.centertheatregroup.org/news-and-blogs/news/2015/july/gay-berlin-before-hitler-came-to-power/

You were already pretty historically illiterate but you had to go the extra mile and make bunch of other historically inaccurate statements.

Pop history isn't history and please don't come here arguing about history armed with 'durr its basic history kekekek'.

You should have sticked to le crime and rape arguments.

>>200834

The founding fathers of America were all either deists or calvinists 'christians' which are materialists with a different name.

There was some weird theology stuff that since gawd is omniscient, its pointless to 'proseltyze' because he already knows who goes to heaven and don't.

Calvinism and other such protestant movements are the precursors to liberalism the spread throughout western and northern jewrope centuries before le enlightment.

>>200862

In fact if anything its enlightenment era that lead to sexual prudishness and stuff. With the reinforcement of the 'rational man' also included the idea that he is in control of his senses, including sexual senses. Its when prostitution and sex work started to be made illegal and adultery was severely punished.

>>200836

"But that's how culture works "

Yeah and that can be said about every single place including lundia , don't make it some exclusively white thing then

I talked about yurop being conservative in terms of promiscuousity of WOMEN ,liberal views and shit which wasn't always the case in history

Yurop earlier before becoming "liberal" and "accepting" was undeniably a man's world when it came to woman's purity .

A man could have many mistresses and enjoy prostitutes but the women were expected to pure virgins and the punishments for adultery were pretty harsh and the laws were pretty biased too ( a man could literally beat and control his wife's actions)

They were put into too categories - innocent virgins (who becomes a mother and a wife ) and sirens .

>>200891

Which means that in fact if anything, its enlightenment that was that one rope holding back the degeneracy of jewropeans which unsurprisingly the decline of Jewrope post WW2 couldn't hold it back.

It was able to hold 'em back in America but post 90s and cold war, when America started to decline, even they couldn't be held back.

And now you are celebrating Japoids becoming another version of westoids when their economy is literally shrinking as proof as progress jejej.

>>200891

Also the entire argument regarding "white woman being more degenerate " literally doesn't make sense as a whole lol

Some cultures like strict Islamic countries and countries like lundia were it's kind of repressive towards sax sux ,but repressive cultures never get rid of sex they just successfully drive it into the shadows jfl

People always fuck , everywhere . It's what we do

>>200895

>Yeah and that can be said about every single place including lundia , don't make it some exclusively white thing then

Which place in India ever did colonization or genocide of massive industrial scales like Jewropeans did?

No, Chola nighers sailing boats to Indonesia isn't 'colonization'. Chola conquests ultimately isn't that culturally impactful in SEA.

>Yurop earlier before becoming "liberal" and "accepting" was undeniably a man's world when it came to woman's purity .

But that's the thing chamar. It always starts with THE MAN.

Even sexual revolution started with THE MAN.

White women were the largest voting block for conservatives until the 90s.

It was always THE MAN'S WORLD.

>They were put into too categories - innocent virgins (who becomes a mother and a wife ) and sirens .

And someghow you miss that men can't be doing adultery and prostitution without Randis around kek if only le women needs to be pure kek.

>>200908

>No, Chola nighers sailing boats to Indonesia isn't 'colonization'. Chola conquests ultimately isn't that culturally impactful in SEA.

And before you say it, no, Chola nighters didn't spread Heenduism to SEA. SEA was already Hindu centuries before Cholas came there.

This also seems to be another misconception that pop history tards believe jej.

>>200912

People fucking in a regulated way that promotes social stability and structure and people fucking like rabbits and orgies are two different things.

Do you really want people to fuck so much that you install apps in your phone so to know whether the guy/girl you are fucking is your cousin or sister like Icelanders do?

>>200922 meant for >>200902

>>200908

The only thing different that happened this time around was the rise of the service sector, which allowed women to be independent of post industrial man that led to le women too engaging in such excesses like their male counterpart.

And unsurprisingly it coincides with record deindustrialization of western cuntries where those industrial bases were shifted towards East.

>>200922

You missed the whole point bhangi, repressive Nations aren't any much better especially india lol ,they are simply much better at hiding it and being sneakier at it lmao .

Rural India had "hookups" before hookups were even a thing in big cities kek

Unmarital sex behind closed doors is popular, those Village mfs are sneakier than you can imagine. Cheating is also a big thing in india and is more common than you think , lundians can surely be equally "rand" when competing with yurop lol , it's just that they're sneakier and hide it pretty well

>>200908

"Which place in India ..."

Do you know how to read Suar?? I meant that in a way which can be easily used to dismiss any culture Across the world by using a part of a history, a common crime or any other stereotype such as - "culture of what ? Insert common crime or stereotype " i did not use it in context of Colonialism,I used it in the context of a stereotype retard which in India's case ( problems regarding total lack of civic sense and cities and towns being filthy and dirty) is actually true lol .

>>200908

Constantly yapping about "muh Europeans colonized n shit" even though yurop has like 44 nations out of which vast majority of nations never even left the continent and colonize asian or African countries, some nations literally got colonized themselves in yurop like the Balkans

Apart from some major western European countries and no one even left the continent and were irrelevant on the global scale for most of the time .

>>200988

But colonization is literally what allowed Europe to get wealthy and get past the 'filthy and dirty' culture as a result of poverty.

Being filthy and dirty is mostly due to poverty, not due to culture.

There are places in India that are able to maintain high level of cleanliness because they are rich. Like Goa and Kerala or Indore and they did not even get that rich to begin with to become that clean.

This is unlike the case I brought up where its literally what lead to its growth. Colonization is literally what helped Europe what it is.

>never even left the continent and colonize asian or African countries, some nations literally got colonized themselves in yurop like the Balkans

>Apart from some major western European countries and no one even left the continent and were irrelevant on the global scale for most of the time .

And unsurprisingly, they are worse places than lundia, where murder and crime rates are very high and every third woman have to become a professional sex worker to feed themselves.

Also Eastern and South Europe culturally is more similar to Arab cunts than they are to rest of Europe(They didn't go through the historical process I just said and still followed largely clan based family structures).

The only difference is that they were forcibly made irreligious by commies and instead of improoving them, it worsened their conditions. Once Islam dies out in ME, I wouldn't be surprised if they turn out very similar to East Europe lol.

>>200993

>>201003

>>200908

suar , this shit started with the women there being more " promiscuous" ,and then I said that it was not always the case and at some point they used to be conservative just like the strict Islamic countries regarding this issue with women which is true and that was the point of it all, so yeah it wasn't always like this for them and my point still stands.

>>200975

>repressive Nations aren't any much better especially india lol

Srsly chamar 😑

I just posted the STD stats above, Lundia has one of the lowest rates of STD in THE WORLD, despite having little to no access or even practice of safe sex.

If its any bad as you state it is, it should be higher. Think chamar, think.

There was a reason why enlightenment thinkers were fascinated with the Vedas and Upanishads, because Dwaitic and Yogic ideals closely aligned with their own Deistic and "Rational" ideals which is also close to Greek era philonighers they were trying to mimick. Lundia has always had a cultural bias towards self control.

>inb4 muh kamasutra

The entire stated goal of Kamasutra as stated in its preface is so that men can satisfy their wives and lead a long happy married life. Not fuck like rabbits.

>>201007

Women were always 'conservative', even long after West industrialized and became rich. This was because sax was always a risk for wamen, it was not until the birth control was a thing that wamen other than randis started to engage in sax sax with random strangers. Iceland and few others might be an exception because the male ratio was very low and it was a small island isolated kms away from the nearest coastline(Even matriarchal/matrillineal societies practiced monogamy afaik, tho they might have multiple 'husbands' throughout life time but only one at a time).

White women are now absolute rands because their men are absolute rands who chug soy and watch capeshit and the reason why their men became weak passive consoomer culture is not because of muh wealth increase lmao.

In fact if anything, the opposite, western millennials and zoomers are living in worse economic conditions than their older counterparts did.

>>201003

Industrialization was the reason they were able to effectively colonize not the other way around, colonization required tools and resources which those Nations already had , industrialization was something done by Britain's own merit as they had the technology for it and the resources required for it which they already had ( steel ,coal etc.)

The wave of industrialization spreading to them along with trade with already successfully EU nations combined with their own internal efforts which was the major part led to nations like Ireland ,norway and Sweden who never even involved themselves in extensive overseas colonization becoming rich , saying colonization is the thing which made the entire continent rich is oversimplifying to the point it becomes wrong .

>>201019

I already told you industrialization is the only reason why their culture got as far ahead as they did, why you repeating my point 😑

There are countries with 'western' values of promiscuity and sexual degeneracy but without the industrialization facilitated wealth creation.

Like many East Euro cunts, or Latam cunts. Or even in Asia, Philippines.

Their status - Not gud.

In fact since you mentioned Lundia is dirty and filthy. Philippinnes by itself produce a double digit percentage of plastic pollution in oceans.

>nations like Ireland ,norway and Sweden who never even involved themselves in extensive overseas colonization becoming rich

Their growth was heavily dependant on the industrialization that happened in Jewrope. They were even bigger shitholes back in the day.

>saying colonization is the thing which made the entire continent rich is oversimplifying to the point it becomes wrong.

Industrialization requires colonization. The only countries that managed to industrialize(other than western backed industrialization of Vietnam and Korea and such) without colonization were massive continent spanning countries like USA and USSR.

>>201023

> colonization were massive continent spanning countries like USA and USSR.

And to not call their own territorial expansionism not a form of imperialism and colonization is also a cope by itself.

If they stayed in their original sizes(the thirteen colonies for US and Kiev-Rus for Russia), its probable they would have never colonized like they did in this timeline.

>>201003

"Unsurprisingly, they are worse than India.."

The most ridiculous crap I've ever read till now , plenty of nations who never colonized like Finland ,poland,the Baltic countries who're not as rich or developed as compared to there western counterparts but comparing them to shith*les like india who literally have sub-saharan levels of infrastructure with 99% of the population way poorer than these countries is diabolical tbh

They're literally ranked some of the safest Nations in the world way above lundia with some of the cities being more safer than even western cities . Anyone who has travelled to these "non colonizer countries I mentioned and many more " and has travelled to india properly can confidently tell who is better than who, how can someone be so delusional so confidently dude .

Despite being " poor " compared to their western counterparts, they're still leagues better than lundia and their cities are fucking clean and civilized not like Indian areas which are filthy asf

>>201023

"Their growth was heavily dependent on industrialization.." Again ,can you Read? They themselves industrialized later on after the wave spread to them , and mainly through industrialization and their own internal efforts made to develop , dismissing it all and claiming it all they're rich due to Colonialism is brain-dead and historically illiterate. They're rich mainly because they industrialized and their own efforts to develop , not because "muh Colonialism" .

Even some Western countries who did have colonies didn't really gain much from it , spain's colonial gains became pretty irrelevant and they fell into economic mediocrity,it was only until the 80s when they started to become like their neighbours and modern Germany's success is due to their own massive rebuilding efforts after ww2 + aid from the US (also known as the marshal plan) , Colonialism has nothing to do with it .

>>201031

>Finland, Poland

I'm talking about shitholes like Moldova and Ukraine here.

Most of the countries you listed have their growth heavily tied to industrialization in rest of Europe as they possess rich natural resources which they could provide. There was a reason why 2 World Wars happened, literally in the name of pooland.

>Despite being " poor " compared to their western

They're not 'poor'. Pooland being poor is just a meme made up by polandball memes. They're a very high income country.

>>201023

"Industrialization requires colonization..."

As I said before, industrialization and their advancements in science and tech helped them effectively colonize not the other way around, they wouldn't have successfully colonize almost Entire continents without being technologically ahead than the rest of the world. Mf use your brain ,you don't end up colonizing 84% of the world without being technologically ahead than the rest of world

>>201046

>They're rich mainly because they industrialized and their own efforts to develop , not because "muh Colonialism" .

See above.

>Even some Western countries who did have colonies didn't really gain much from it ,

Spain colonized before the industrialization. Of course it failed because industrial scale imperialism was impossible without industrialization.

Oh yes, I forgot to correct your another claim earlier.

Europe didn't 'colonize' because of industrialization. The colonization process happened way before industrialization. Another L for you kek.

>>201049

>As I said before, industrialization and their advancements in science and tech helped them effectively colonize not the other way around,

Arey chapri retard, READ a fucking book. Colonization started centuries before industrial revolution.

>>201049

And yes even British only industrialized after they colonized in case your argument is that 'hurr durr I'm talking about le brit colonization'.

Brits held significant portions of Americas and z India even as far as 16th century and 17th centuries, way before industrial revolution (eighteenth century).

>>201049

>Mf use your brain ,you don't end up colonizing 84% of the world without being technologically ahead than the rest of world

Except they didn't. Colt's rifles might be the only technological advantage they held but it's not like rifles are a super seekrit alien thang in Lundia, we site right next to Soyna who literally invanted rifles chamar.

No, most colonization at least in India was due to divide and conquer policy, not because of le we wuz spear chuckers and they wuz gun gattlers.

That's only true in case of colonization of Americas but the diseases they spread had a far bigger impact than Muh gunz.

>>201003

Kek they're NOT culturally similar to Arabs lmao , you have some southern europeans who kinda look like Arabs and levantine folks who look "white" and that's it , your average boris from Ukraine is more culturally similar to thomas from France ,not to some n*gger from sudan or some abdul from Syria 😂 . There is a reason why they prefer having Ukrainian immigrants in their nations but not immigrants from the MENA region , cause they're culturally similar along with same race,same religion and hence will have it much easier to assimilate not the ones from middle East who have a completely different culture jfl

>>201059

But they're. Islam is just Orthodox Christianity with Arab characteristics. Had Islam not happened, most of these regions would be following Orthodox Christianity and they would comprise a cultural unit along with Meds and rest of South Yuros and North Afros like during the days of Byzantines.

>>201060

I mean just look at so called 'islamic' architecture

Islam was heavily influenced by Levant Christianity somethang iirc which Iirc Orthodox and aligned to East Roman Empire or somethang.

It would be more appropriate to call Islam an off shoot of Christianity than offshoot of Judaism.

Despite how much wignats want to pretend like cuckslam has nothing to do with them and is culturally incompatible kek.

>>201061

My personal theory is that Cuckslam was mediaeval version of Jehovah witnesses. Mommad probably was ex cucksytian and thot like 'y worship jeezus y not pray to yawa directly' like how jehovah nighers believe today.

>>201051

>>201050

Historically illiterate statement,Colonization of Americas but it wasn't the main driver of industrialization, spain and Portugal harvested the most from the Americas and it led to them getting them the Dutch disease.if Colonialism drove industrialization then spain or France or even Russia would be leading the way while Germany and the central Europe made no progress.this is the opposite of what happened,it doesn't take much analysis to see the claim only makes sense if you cherry pick history and ignore which resources were actually traded under Colonialism

>>201061

Oh and btw, the star and crescent that is heavily associated with Islam was originally a symbol of byzantine empire.

>>201047

You literally said the "non colonizer" Countries are worse than lundia , but the non colonizer countries are poland and others I mentioned and now you're saying they're not poor ,like ffs pick a side bhangi .

>>201065

Arey chamar, u said colonization happened because of industrialization which is chamar buddhi statement that revealed your absolute low iq and historical illiteracy.

>.if Colonialism drove industrialization then spain or France or even Russia would be leading the way while Germany and the central Europe made no progress.

UK had the advantage here of discovering the massive coal mines which is what drove initial industrial attempts(oh and maybe the first ones to discover a working steam engine).

But regardless subsequent industrialization do require massive amounts of raw materials and hence land chamar, it's no surprise that the countries that held the most lands emerged as the dominant cunts(until they were all nerfed by the world wars jej).

Pls chamar, this (history) is clearly not your thang. Stick to calling india a shithole.

>>201058

Don't act like a genius saying they didn't have much superiority apart from rifles clearly shows you don't know anything, Colonialism isn't possible without any technological advantages .

- British dominance in India began in 1757 with the decisive battle of Plassey

1) invention of calculus In 1660s by leibnitz and newton,how do you keep track of growth as well as production of complicated machinery without the use of advanced mathematics bhangi ?

2) industrialization helped the Brits a lot in keeping a well maintained and efficient transport network which can transport goods over large distances

3) development of mass production

4)the invention of complicated machinery

5) the invention of steam engines and it's mass use .

All of these helped the Brits to effectively colonize and they were clearly technologically superior at the time

>>201070

How do you even define 'non colonizer' to begin with?

Pooland was part of various empires that committed colonization on their own. Do they not count as 'colonization' because Poland as we know now wasn't formed?

Anyways, I already made my point clear. Most of them had historical advantage by being close to these empires to begin with. Their growth is heavyily tied to growth of these so called 'imperial' nations.

>>201075

>British dominance in India began in 1757 with the decisive battle of Plassey

British held colonies in South India way before the battle of Plassey.

>invention of calculus In 1660s by leibnitz and newton,how do you keep track of growth as well as production of complicated machinery without the use of advanced mathematics bhangi ?

James watt created the steam engine largely without the help of a formal education of physics and math. Iirc, he was just some plumber or something. Not an academically trained mechanical eniginigher.

>>201072

"U said colonization happened because of..."

Did I ? Where ?

"History is not your thang .."

Again ,bhangi projecting

"British only industrialized after they colonized and they had colonies in 16th and 17th century"

Technically they had been colonizing since the 12th century when they colonized ireland ,but neither that nor some religious nuts landing in Plymouth in 1620 are part of a main even globalized European colonization.

Looting wealth from india by the east Indian company wasn't necessary for industrialization although it was profitable, colonization simply helped widen the competetive stretch europe had developed over asia , directing wealth from one country to another with milatry force isn't the same as industrialization,but it was more because it crippled india and China industrializing and being dependent on Europe

>>201079

>Did I ? Where ?

See >>201019

"Industrialization was the reason they were able to effectively colonize not the other way around, colonization required tools and resources which those Nations already had , industrialization was something done by Britain's own merit as they had the technology for it and the resources required for it which they already had ( steel ,coal etc.) "

Now roll around and say you actually meant something else kek.

>Looting wealth from india by the east Indian company wasn't necessary for industrialization

Yeah bro, that's why Lundia was called the crown jewel of the British Empire and the Empire literally imploded and collapsed when they lost it kek.

>it didn't have to happen but it did happen but it could've happened otherwise like I imagine

Yeah chamar, I too can make up any imaginary scenario I can think in my head kek.

>>201079

Also ffs, use greentexts nayachakka.

>>201076

Yeah they did have historical advantage and i do believe they somewhat benefit from it through trade with those countries or in the form of assistance, but that's just another factor and mainly they developed by their own efforts and industrializing themselves along with the assistance from already rich countries. And the benefits don't automatically translate into responsibility for Colonialism as they weren't the ones out there making human zoos , causing massive famines and shit, technically making them "non colonizer nations" kek .

>>201058

>>201058

Lundbuddhi no colonization ever happens without any technological superiority , a less technologically advanced society cannot ever colonize a nation advanced than them . Use some few brain cells you actually have bhangi

The British were clearly much ahead of lundia when they came there to properly colonize it combine it with effective tactics like divide and rule and you get British succes bhangi

>>201050

Colonization as a practise benefitted a lot from industrialization, so it's kinda understandable...but nevertheless.

Also I've observed bhangis like you have this dumbass misconception that india and China were more rich than yurop just before their Colonialism began which is far from the truth lol, they simply had a much larger population leading to bigger economies which is obvious,but by per capita income western yurop was way ahead early on .

Western Europe was already significantly more developed economically than most of the world prior to colonization. colonization was simply just a effect of that development,not the cause

>>201080

Statments like these keep convincing me about your lack of knowledge and how uninformed you truly are bhangi , the empire collapsed because of world war you turd ,it literally weakened them a lot and they no longer had the wealth and strength to manage their empires across the world because the war weakened them not because they lost lundia .you shouldn't yap about history when you're this uninformed

>>201087

You dont go from fighting the second largest military in the world to getting bullied by fucking Egypt just after a war.

Are you aware that British army comprised a large portion of Indians. In fact India do have top 10 position in number of deaths of military personnel in ww2.

>>201083

Arey muthbuddhi, you said "industrialization". Do you even know what that means?

Do you know which empires were called the "gunpowder" empires?

>>201084

You can google the madison historical data. They were roughly the same before colonization. Definitely not "significantly more". Mainland China and Bengal was in fact one of tge most richest places in the world per capita wise until early modern age(iirc Bengal alone was around 10-20% of the world gdp). Please verify your claims before you post them here.

>>201097

I know what I'm saying very well , the crippling debt from two brutal wars forced the British government to abandon control of its difficult to control but wealthy territories, maintaining the vast empire was not possible for the Brits anymore due to the level of damage done to the British economy .

It was also marked by decline of European powers and rise of USA and USSR who supported decolonisation And the global movement gained a lot of strength after the war putting immense pressure on the Brits.

Independence of India was inevitable but it's quite plausible to say that the independence might've been delayed a little bit had the war not occurred so it was a combination of several factors,not because just "muh they lost endia " .

>>201101

Yeah I know what that means bhangi

And the gunpowder empires were ottoman,safavid and mughal empires , what's your point?

My point still stands, where these Empires fell and Europeans rose were the naval capabilities

And after that you europe using wealth from the new world to fund research, while muslims were busy infighting and building expensive buildings n shit ,it's not like they couldn't work on it ,there were even some engineers who gave the idea of steam engines ,but states go where their rulers take them to

It was european logistics and attitude which brought them above the Muslim world. Just prior to ww1 , Britain was already much ahead of the Ottomans,their economic and milatry might would throttle the Ottomans into oblivion .

>>201101

They were not "equal" lmao , that's why I'm convinced about your historical illiteracy

Endia's gdp share didn't fall to 4% not because the gdp itself fell into recession but other countries experienced a faster growth from quick industrialization.all screenshots given by research papers Angus Maddison,stephen s broadberry and vishupriya gupta further comfirms it.

I will blame hindutva merchants and Shashi Tharoor for cherrypicking Angus Maddison 's findings to spread this misinformation that india was ever an economic power lol

>>201101

>>201101

>>201182

Once again you show your extremely low IQ by comparing the whole China and India against mercentalist centres of Europe like UK and Italy. Compare Bengal vs UK or Chinese port states vs Italy instead chamar buddhi.

European colonization was entirely motivated to find an alternative path to the silk route, Colombus was literally trying to find a path to Lundia that rival powers didnt find yet, how stupid and retarded can you be?

>>201174

Once again, do you know what "industrialization" means.

1600 Spain or 1700 UK or even 1757 UK wasn't "industrialized"(a late 18th century event).

>what's your point?

Use your brain chamar, what massive technological advantage they held against empires literally named so after use of canons and rifles in their army?

Do you think Brits would have colonized India if Mughals were still standing?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Mughal_war_(1686%E2%80%931690)

>>201161

Many other countries came out of war with crippling debts. Germany and USSR got the worst out of it. India itself incurred huge loses to its standing army even.

None of them got so bad as to get bullied by Egypt lmao.

>>201243

Stop projecting ffs , don't act like you don't know how to read when you start to lose kek

We're comparing whole of endia and China , not specifically it's rich states , i literally gave you the stat and proof that compared entirety of india and China with Western European countries ( but go on call it a " meme stat" ) you don't look at rich parts of a poor country and dismiss it's overall poverty. The point still stands that india and China were much behind in terms of overall gdp per Capita for the average person .

>>201243

" Use you brain chamar ..."

Again, don't randomly act blind , when I clearly stated the factors which lead to the yurop going ahead of islamic world like naval capabilities, logistics and attitude n shit which was true .

"What massive technological advantage did they have ..."

I ain't gonna explain the same shit again n again ,if you're blind just say it . I clearly told you how the Brits had already created the steam engines and it's mass use and had already invented complicated machinery .they already had an efficient transport system which was a result of their naval capabilities and helped them in colonization since the beginning..I can go on and state multiple stuff.

" Do you think they would've colonized india if Mughals were standing.."

No they wouldn't, not because they were technologically inferior but because of being heavily outnumbered . Technological superiority stops being a thing when your " advanced" tech isn't in sufficient quantity for war effort and your outnumbered 25:1.

>>201243

They weren't strategically inferior either , not especially after the constant levels of infighting in europe between several states which also acted as a factor for making breakthroughs in science cause war helps fuel these things

>>201243

Also , im simply saying that industrialization did help a lot in the process of colonization, it did not create it anyways , but it surely helped in successfully maintaining the colonial dominance and the process overall .

"None of them got so bad ..."

British units were withdrawn to the canal area in 1947,

They couldn't interfere with the coup with any strength.

Egypt was technically independent and the British only owned the canal and only then until 1956 as agreed in the Anglo-egyptian treaty .

Also ,this doesn't change anything and my point still stands , the British empire collapsed mainly because because of the world war which gave them the final blow not because they lost lundia , and as I said before it ain't very wrong to say indian independence could've been delayed for quite a bit if not for the world war .

>>201243

They used the divide and rule in the first place to solve their problem of being heavily outnumbered by indians ,they lacked the numbers in the first place

>>201283

Why do you constantly display your extremely low IQ again and again my dear god.

"Poor country" my ass. Chamar, India wasn't even a country back in 1600 or even in 1700 when Mughal empire was its greatest territorial extent.

Comparing preindustrial economies itself is extremely low IQ move on your part as they were either dependent on agriculture or trade, thats why fucking Shitaly, a country known for being conquered and subjugated(As Marx calls it Italy of Asiatic dimensions) like India is one of the richest places in Jewrope. Because of port cities like Venice ans such.

Thats why Bengal Subah accounted for 10-20 % of the world's gdp. That's why European naval expeditionists was marveled at the richness of Gayrallah. Because they are all mercentile port cities and centres of international trade you ape.

>>201304

>Technological superiority stops being a thing when your " advanced" tech isn't in sufficient quantity for war effort and your outnumbered 25:1.

Did you read that article.

Mughal army incurred almost 0 losses. Thats not something you do by zerg rushing tactics.

>>201336

Also 14000(That were involved in direct war with the company) vs 3000 isnt 25:1.

>>201330

>>201243

Stfu

Yes , Britain and the Netherlands was already industrialized in the 1700s due to improvements in agriculture and new revolutionary production methods being gradually introduced.Whereas in Bengal , production of Goods remained largely based on manual labour and traditional techniques. Don't pull stuff out of your ass before projecting It.

Bhangis like you think europe got ahead of Colonialism like lol no , colonialism is simply a continuation of the headstart they had prior to it , bhangis blame them for sub Saharan African poverty, when In reality they were always piss poor and . Now don't hit me up with the mansa musa argument kek ,he was wealthy due to his abundant gold resources and a flourishing slave trade,not because of a dynamic and robust economy .

>>201427

>Britain and the Netherlands was already industrialized in the 1700s

"Industrialized" before the "industrial revolution" even happened. Kek. You really are competing for the lowest IQ poster in this place, right?

>agriculture and new revolutionary production methods

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What production chamar. East India company was formed to import spices, tea, silk, etc... in to Britain, not export goods.

Nigha, you're probably one of the dumbest retards I have encountered in this site jfl.

>bhangis blame them for sub Saharan African poverty

The conquest of Africa was a much later event. It was mostly Jewropeans empires trying to do a dick measuring contest by seeing who can grab the biggest land. Fattening their kingdoms back home by siphoning resources from there wasn't the goal of colonization of Africa unlike the colonization efforts of Asia and Americas. By that time, even those empires slowly started to depend less on the colonies and colonies mostly were self run.

Unironically nighers should have even more greviences because they were colonized just for yuros to wave dicks and nothing else.

At least Asians and American colonies were set to fuel an economic system of exploitation so it had some infrastructure built there like the muh Indian railways.

>>201330

Endia(in whatever form it existed as a whole) at that time wasn't substantially wealthier before the British kek and their large share of gdp was purely due to to their large population combined with the fact that everyone else was piss poor as well

A 10% drop in gdp per Capita considering the population growth does not account for the drop from 30% global gdp to 2% .

Indian industry did not die due to some local decree to destroy the local production but industrialization allowed british industries to mass produce fabrics and sell them to indians for cheaper than the local industry, therefore running them out of business.

The same happened in europe as artisan industries were running out of business by industrial mass production.

>>201438

Scramble of Africa was a truly evil event. Like evil "take over the world" tier cartoon villain tier evil. No wonder then Jewropeans later on in mid century had no qualms doing the largest industrial scale genocide in history.

>>201447

>Endia(in whatever form it existed as a whole) at that time wasn't substantially wealthier before the British

Arey chamar, once again you are exposing your low IQ again and again. Britain was but a small part of Europe. Like how Waste Bengal was a small part of Lundia. These mercentile centers having double digit gdp share and high income means jack shit because it happened everywhere. I can also compare maybe South Africa (which had cape town) and say China and say South Africa was richer than China kek(Even though the only reason anyone stopped at cape town was to reach China).

Look at tge chart you posted yourself chamar. GDP growth rate was almost nil until after the industrial revolution.

>>201438

>>201438

" What production chamar ....."

Once again proving my point, keep projecting Suar , industrialized in the sense of manufacturing infrastructure, your negative iq lundbuddhi can't seem to comprehend it apparently ,they already had a thriving proto-industrial economy which laid the groundworks for industrial revolution.

They had a semi industrialized economy with significant manufacturing activity before the Full fledged industrialization,in that sense I meant it , although I should've worded it better ig

>>201461

>Proto industrial

Meme term chamar. Its used to describe everything from current under developed countries to russia before ussr and mughal and qing empires to even fucking as far back as bronze age empires.

The term you are looking for is "mercentile" economies which many places in the world at that time are.

>semi industrialized economy with significant manufacturing activity

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Again what did they manufacture? Afaik, one innovation is fast action bolt rifle or something that helped them significantly in wars. But even they werent that innovative. What they did was improve the war tactics of fast switching soldiers to effectively take down cavalry as empires in the subcontinent grew to heavily rely on horses.

>>201438

>>201458

>>201438

"You're probably the dumbest retards.."

Suar i should be the one saying this you're projecting again and again while making illiterate level statements like " which tech advantage did yurop have over colonized nations " even after telling you shit tons of stuff which they actually had better than the colonized nations

Bhangi mental gymnastics is something else 💀

Suar claimed about the British milatry being bullied by egypt which never even happened like seriously dawg tf , making shit up on this point.

>>201483

You keep saying they manufactured something le advanced before industrial revolution but yet to say what it is. Only one you brought up is muh Naval ways but Indians too had the same kind of Naval tech they had, they had little to no interest in conquering phoren lands. Only one Indian king ever expressed such ambitions and he ultimately died before he could try kek.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travancore%E2%80%93Dutch_War

>>201477

Are you talking about what did semi- industrialized Britain and Netherlands produce ?

Or are you asking what did these nations produce after full fledged industrialization? If it's the latter then congrats bhangi,you just proved that you're blind 👌Cause countless examples can be given only for you to ignore it and say " muh they didn't produce anything other than bolt action rifle "

You make shit up on your own and act like some historical genius n shit

>>201491

"India had naval too ..."

Retard one of the reasons they were successful at Colonization was due to their naval capabilities which resulted in an effective transport system for their empires .

Shipbuilding and other capabilities were the reason they came out on over other nations.

Coal mining, processes agricultural products ,sugar refining, heavy industries and more .

>>201491

"Indians had the same kind of Naval tech they had ...."

Proving my point bhangi , if wanna make false shit up on your own to support your argument then shut tf up seriously, proto industrial yurop which I speak of had much better naval technology than endia which supported it's foreign trade and shit .

>>201491

"They had no interest in .."

Is that yurop's fault bhangi ? This doesn't prove anything.

>>201491

💀tf?

there are countless things like the telegraph, steam engines, further developed guns and ammunitions even though they were invented by the Chinese,but were fully developed by yurop, they produced machines and advanced military technology like tanks, aircrafts , Machine guns n shit and countless stuff in every single field ..

Can't believe I have to explain this shit Man

You're seriously One of the most negative iq dehati I've ever seen who has some sheer audacity 🤣🤣😭

>>201510

>Telegraph

1837

>steam engines

1769

>guns

That might be true but that's not a huge leap from previous match lock guns

>>201671

I said that incase if you were talking about stuff created post-industrial revolution,but I'm wrong ig

Lastly, would point out these ..

"Being filthy and dirty is mostly due to poverty.."

There are lots of poor countries across the world and many of them are even poorer than India yet are atleast clean like they're not developed infrastructure wise but are still clean. For example, I've been to northeastern states and the difference in civic sense and cleanliness was huge as compared to rest of the india which I've visited

>>200836

😐

Don't try to twist the definition of Colonialism lol it's conquering a nation, subjugating it's population and exploiting it. Lol white peepo colonization mainly began On a global scale from the 15th century ,many cultures were already practising Colonialism way before them like the Arabs ,Ottomans, Mongols and indigenous tribes already were doing that way before them , I can give more examples so it's not a yurop exclusive thing

>>201458

>>201458

I was not comparing entirety of yurop with endia to say that the entirety of the continent was already richer than endia ,I was comparing these already rich countries of west with all of india and China, which those stats did prove , did these rich Western countries already have a higher gdp per Capita than india prior to proper Colonization of india ? They did , and were richer ,but was all of europe like that ? No they were not . That's what I was saying

>2 retards going at it for 14 days

greatest thread of bhach. never change anons, never change

fck u mFs

>>176254(OP)

Why are we ok with westoids brain draining us? How will India become superpower if everyone smart ends up leaving?