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zJHcFh
No.47349
>Be me
>Reading Vedas, trying to find the truth about cow sacrifice
>Some dude posts “Vedas totally say cow sacrifice was a thing, bro”
>Check the actual Sanskrit
>mfw it’s a mistranslation
> Rigveda 10.85.13
“Cows are sacred” ≠ “Cows must be sacrificed”
Word medhya means pure or fit for ritual, not necessarily “to be killed”
It’s actually about a wedding ceremony, not sacrifice
> Yajurveda 30.18
Supposedly about cow sacrifice
Read the Sanskrit
No cows mentioned, just a list of deities receiving offerings
tfw they just made stuff up
> Shatapatha Brahmana 3.1.2.21
“Sacrifice a cow for prosperity” they say
Actually talks about symbolic offerings
Later parts of the same text say cows are Aghnya (not to be killed)
So they cherry-picked one line and ignored the rest
> Taittiriya Brahmana 3.9.8
“Cow sacrifice is a yajna”
Check the actual words
Misinterpreted ālabheta (which means “to receive” not “to kill”)
More like “one who obtains a cow performs a yajna”
Clown world-tier translation
> Manusmriti 5.41
“Animals may be sacrificed”
But later verses say cow slaughter is a sin
Hinduism literally evolved toward non-violence (Ahimsa)
Yet some people pretend early Vedas = modern Hinduism
>Realization hits
>Western Indologists like Max Müller & Griffith spread these mistranslations
>Colonial bias + Christian missionary agenda
>mfw they were making up nonsense
> Who to trust?
Dayananda Saraswati, Aurobindo, Kapali Sastry
Traditional scholars actually knew Sanskrit and weren’t pushing agendas
Western translations = cope, Hindu scriptures always protected cows
>Modern Hindus don’t eat beef for a reason
>Ancient Hindus didn’t either
>Debunked another meme-tier argument
>Feels based, man
+UMqhV
No.47353
>>47349(OP)
Doesn't really matter what "ancient Handoos" did yaar. You shouldn't eat animals because its wrong to kill innocent animals.
Not because some text said its wrong or right.
zJHcFh
No.47359
>>47353
meat eating and cow eating is not wrong, but we shouldn't manipulate the texts to support ourselves
mmzIab
No.47363
>>47359
.✅
Pretty much this, even in last thread we had discussion i said this to do not twist texts to justify your own behaviour - own it up.
mmzIab
No.47364
>>47349(OP)
you are right about cherry picked mistranslation to push agenda part.
zJHcFh
No.47367
>>47364
some anons were shamelessly pushing some indra translations too, which were done by Griffith and muller just to push British agendas
mmzIab
No.47372
>>47367
Interesting, I am not aware of it, i remember agni part which was being mis represented.
In last thread when this happened, i recall that i quoted aghanya part but i was not sure of bull sacrifice - since i was not looking to justify any behaviour based on past text I was not really concerned about it.
zJHcFh
No.47377
>>47372
>Be me
>Browsing /sa/
>Someone posts "Rigveda is racist! Aryans vs. black-skinned Dasyus!"
>Mfw they’re using colonial mistranslations
> “Indra conquered the black skin.” [Rigveda 1.130.8]
Check original Sanskrit
“Krishna” (black) refers to metaphorical darkness, not skin color
Meanwhile, Krishna (the god) is literally described as dark-skinned
Bruh moment
> “Black skin is impious” – [Rigveda 2.12.4]
Google the verse, doesn’t exist
Completely made-up quote
mfw people just invent translations to fit their narrative
> “Indra hates the black skin” [Rigveda 9.73.5]
Real verse says Indra destroys riteless men (those who reject Vedic rituals)
Nothing about race, just a religious distinction
Indra doesn’t care about skin color, just dharma
> What is “Dasyu”?
Western Indologists: “They were black aboriginals”
Reality: Dasyu just means those who don’t perform Vedic yajnas
Even Indo-Aryans could be called Dasyus if they rejected the Vedic system
Some Dasyus converted and became part of Vedic society
So much for "race war"
> “White Aryans vs Black Dasyus” narrative pushed by Max Müller & British colonialists
They mistranslated varna (which means class/category, not skin color)
Literal propaganda to justify British rule
Meanwhile, Hindu gods like Vishnu, Krishna, and Draupadi are described as dark-skinned
Self-own
>Modern historians agree Rigveda isn’t racial, but Twitter activists still cope
>Mfw people believe 19th-century mistranslations over actual Sanskrit
zJHcFh
No.47385
>>47349(OP)
bump
mmzIab
No.47387
P84t6r
No.47388
zJHcFh
No.47392
>>47388
tu post krde also dont post
muller, griffith, hayman wilson
they deliberately misinterpreted the translation or took it in literal sense to. push certain agendas
best sources are Dayananda saraswati, Aurobindo, kapali sastry
since these people had understanding of vedic literature and context, didn't do monolithic translations
zJHcFh
No.47394
>>47387
good catch. There’s definitely a Krishna-Cloud-Indra relationship. Krishna is often described as Shyam Varna (dark like a raincloud), and Indra is literally the storm god. The Govardhan episode even has Krishna challenging Indra, who sends a storm in response.
This reinforces that “black” (Krishna, rainclouds) in Vedic texts symbolizes divine power, not race. Indra’s battles against “darkness” were more about spiritual/religious conflicts (Dasyus = riteless, not a race). The whole “white Aryan vs black Dravidian” thing was a colonial invention, and it falls apart once you actually read the Sanskrit.
zJHcFh
No.47396
>>47349(OP)
I am saying this again, I am open to debate , but please do no share meme tier arguments
mmzIab
No.47406
>>47394
gotcha yes.
P84t6r
No.47407
>>47392
We are at two poles then.
one is Muller's translation and the other is the modern Indian translation, which is no longer reliable because of modern Indian nationalism. I think what gives Max Muller a little "base" is the fact that he used versions from the time. and not versions of modern Rigveda made by Indian nationalists
which is the most accurate version and how do we know this?
mmzIab
No.47410
>>47388
I mostly follow through history - archeology, sometimes genetics it made me map things out like possible migrations, various movements.
Exchange of culture and languages. Which gives me pretty decent idea about ivc-vedic period and after that. So i am not really concerned about translation though discussion about the mis-translation and use of it to propose a certain narrative is not a new thing.
mmzIab
No.47415
>>47407
>modern Indian nationalism
Imagine saying this while trying to claim superiority on the basis of people who frequently mis translated the scriptures or barely able to pronounce it.
gM/W8+
No.47417
tbh the mistranslation psyop is good because otherwise boomers will get more ammo to ban meat.
zJHcFh
No.47418
>>47407
Müller's translations aren't reliable either. Dude was working under British colonial rule and had a Christian missionary agenda. His whole "Aryan conquerors vs dark-skinned natives" take was Victorian race theory, not actual Sanskrit meaning.
Modern Indian translations? Yeah, some have nationalist bias, but that doesn’t mean Müller's 19th-century takes are somehow more accurate. The guy wasn’t even fluent in spoken Sanskrit, just a philologist pushing colonial narratives.
If you want accuracy, cross-check multiple sources ,Sayana, Aurobindo, Kapali Sastry, Dayananda Saraswati. Sanskrit is complex, and no single translation is perfect. Best way? Read the original with traditional commentaries.
zJHcFh
No.47419
>>47417
you shouldn't be making up lies to construct something, meat eating should be pushed with actual evidences, even religous reforms will help
mmzIab
No.47421
The biggest eye opener for me was when i was following whole genetics thing, the european researchers and even many Indian counter parts had overtly fixation on steppe - what was pre-steppe somehow is ignored completely.
As we see more and more papers now, it's easy to see how they first tried to simplify whole migration event, even the very much horse theory from steppe is false btw. This is how absurd thngs are.
Any half good sanskrit scholar can pin point issues with the translation of sanskrit by likes of max muller.
Yes there are many in rw who are a bit exaggerating but you need to understand that worse is happening under the so called 'rational' western historians. It's just that nobody is calling them out.
The fact that aryan term itself has been stolen by them, greek history has been co-opted, vedic and ivc history is defrenchesid from India itself is good enough example.
There's been long attempt to create a discontinuity that ivc / vedic and post ivc vedic eras were different and no continuity but excavations by likes of B.B. Lal showcased that it was ot the case.
"steppe" culture PGW was coincided with the late harappan culture side by side. He discovered entire cities based on the mahabharata literature - i will try to see if i can link the images - layer of burned areas.
mmzIab
No.47422
>>47417
Boomers are losing power. Mudi is selling protein powder in sarkari outlets on subsidy. You don't need to use lie to push such agenda.
mmzIab
No.47424
>>47418
>Modern Indian translations? Yeah, some have nationalist bias, but that doesn’t mean Müller's 19th-century takes are somehow more accurate. The guy wasn’t even fluent in spoken Sanskrit, just a philologist pushing colonial narratives.
Our most 'esteemed historian' from liberal side is Rumila thapar who can't even speak sanskrit btw. And somehow nationalist are the problem.
There are very few people who could match likes of B.B. Lal though.
zJHcFh
No.47425
>>47422
Protein powders aren't the solution though, if protein was the only thing seprating veg and non veg diet was protein vegans would have won long ago
Meat is the only true and abundant source of most vitamins and minerals
gM/W8+
No.47426
>>47422
>Mudi is selling protein powder in sarkari outlets on subsidy.
Whey powder will never be consumed by regular people, no matter how cheap it becomes.
Problem is that people who don't do weight training still need 70-80g protein everyday. It is very difficult to get that without things like eating paneer, which it expensive for average person here.
Meat (expecially chicken) is just a convenient way to fulfil this protein requirement, regular person in India barely gets 40-50g everyday, and that is assuming that they consume dairy.
mmzIab
No.47427
>>47425
whatever yaar, i am not really against non-veg so i don't really care. Still i disagree with 'meat' being only source.
Protein powder, multi-vitamins, milk etc. can take care of most if people want non-veg solutions.
gM/W8+
No.47428
also meat eating has somehow become a political issue in this hellscape, lying is basically necessary to win a political debate in any place.
mmzIab
No.47429
>>47426
Point is that you don't really need to use vedas to justify consuming chicken sirs 
Rest upto people.
I am of the opinion that after maybe idk 30s or so switch to more simpler lifestyle of - yoga x cardio - cycling / walk / run instead of worrying about other things. Have more green leaf veggies, milk, wahtever avoid masala, etc.
zJHcFh
No.47433
>>47427
Multivitamins are basically overpriced, synthetic garbage that your body barely absorbs. Most of what you take just ends up in your urine because it's in a form your body doesn’t recognize or process efficiently.
Meat, on the other hand, gives you everything in the most bioavailable form. Heme iron, real vitamin A (retinol), B12, zinc, omega-3s—everything your body actually needs, without the fillers and artificial binders that come with pills. Plus, nutrients in meat work together naturally, unlike isolated lab-made vitamins that don’t absorb properly without the right cofactors.
If you want real nutrition, eat a steak or some liver. If you want expensive urine, take a multivitamin.
zJHcFh
No.47436
>>47428
true desu, I am pretty sure most of us can get away with citing these fake ass muller translations, but once I was caught and corrected
However I am still thinking about that other anon's view of these current translations being influenced by the indian nationalist movement,, which is never a good look
mmzIab
No.47438
>>47433
yaar i am not this obsessed.
chicken breast is like idk 200 per .5kg in india, 250gm each day would end up with 3000+, mudi protein powder is around 700 to 800 to 1200 iirc.
add milk, green veggies, and maybe vitamins as per your need apart from whatever daily stuff you eating that's more than enough.
you don't need to have overtly non-veg life - but if you want to that's alright.
gM/W8+
No.47443
>>47436
Hopefully once boomers die off. Some big companies will start making proper industrial meat farms here.
mmzIab
No.47446
>>47443
Industrial meat farms are already being operated by boomers saaar.
Why the hell you guys are acting like chicken is haram or something.
Chicken, goat meat, fishes, etc. gorillion options are there anyway.
zJHcFh
No.47449
>>47438
Bro, just eat the damn meat.
Yeah, chicken breast is ₹200 per 500g, but you’re acting like that’s some insane price when people blow cash on junk food without thinking. Meat gives you everything—protein, B12, heme iron, omega-3s, real vitamin A—all in one go. Meanwhile, you’re out here suggesting milk, greens, and multivitamins.
Why juggle supplements and overpriced whey when you can just eat some eggs, chicken, or liver and be nutritionally set? Balanced diet without meat? More like malnourished with extra steps.
zJHcFh
No.47451
>>47446
trvke kek, even I plan to open a pork farm later on, seen people make crazy cash out of it
mmzIab
No.47459
>>47449
See anon, you are a meat supremacist - good for you.
But i am saying in the same price point there are also non-veg equivalents too.
I am not justifying carb sloppism. I am just not a big fan of cultish wilding over just one aspect of things ignoring that other aspect is also very much possible.
Eggs are something i hope that bjpee leaders bring back for childrens. This is the most anti-human thing they have done to the children.
+UMqhV
No.47460
>>47359
Killing innocent animals is objectively wrong. And eating meat itself is connected with a lot of problems (hygienic - meat consumption is the number 1 source of zoonotic diseases).
Eating the meat of animals that died naturally is debatable - then you should also allow people to eat dead humans (if a safe way exists to do it).
Anyhow dharmic religions are the only religiosn that incorporated this objective truth into their teachings. Desertn+gger religions don't because they actually don't care.
gM/W8+
No.47461
>>47460
You are a Kashmiri pandit. Which is the most meat eating Hindu community of India.
mmzIab
No.47463
>>47451
Unironically those who complain about muh low quality meat should do this.
Get into the business, do it through proper quality control etc. People will buy.
I am kinda bullish on a cruelty free ways - it's kinda bs but what i mean is lab grown meat - i think this is where india should be investing if there's any possibility. It can scale at much larger scale and hopefully not all the pain which animals go through in industrial meat farming.
+UMqhV
No.47464
>>47461
What does that have to do with what is objectively right and wrong kek
You guys are legit 70 IQ retards. Imagine killing innocent animals so you can feel better about yourself. Not only braindead but actually evil if you have any kind of self awareness.
zJHcFh
No.47467
>>47459
Look bro, my point is that you can eat whatever you want, but people shouldn't call this a balanced diet and good for them
>eggs
true desu, that would be a good baseline, but I don't bjp will ever do that
mmzIab
No.47468
>>47467
I disagree about just being source being the balanced diet but let's stop this convo here. Since i don't have much to add.
Rest fine. possible.
+UMqhV
No.47469
>>47463
There is no such thing as high quality or low quality meat. Meat is always low quality. All meat has the risk of diseaes from simple bacterial diseaes to actually prionic diseaes which you can't handle at all.
The reason why the meat industry exists is to make profits and turn people into braindead satanic consumers.
The jews really did a number on the whole world with this meat shit.
mmzIab
No.47471
Most of the primary school have something like ''poshan ahar", if they do it right it can decent quality of meal apart from egg.
gM/W8+
No.47472
>>47464
You are a eugenics advocate, it genuinely does not make sense to care about random low level animals while advocating actual genocide of humans.
>Imagine killing innocent animals so you can feel better about yourself
Most people (including me) just it because it is tasty. Not other hidden agenda. Obviously you can fulfill all your requirements with a vegetarian diet.
>actually evil if you have any kind of self awareness
Humans are not any more moral than other animals. If humans are evil for eating meat, every other carnivore and omnivore is also evil.
zJHcFh
No.47474
>>47460
Lmao, "killing innocent animals is objectively wrong"—says who? Nature? Ever seen a lion feel bad for a gazelle?
> muh zoonotic diseases
Yeah bro, because industrial plant farming doesn’t destroy ecosystems and kill thousands of animals in the process. Also, ever heard of E. coli outbreaks from lettuce? Guess plants aren’t so innocent either.
>industrial meat
Strictly against this btw, only grassfed meat which gets stun killed should be sold
> eating naturally dead animals is okay
Okay, so you’d rather scavenge like a vulture instead of just eating fresh, nutrient-dense meat? Sounds healthy.
> dharmic religions are superior
Cool, but morality is a cope. People have been eating meat for millennia, thriving while vegans pop multivitamins just to function. Enjoy your nutrient deficiencies.
zJHcFh
No.47477
>>47468
What exactly do you disagree with? were my points not convincing enough?
Baseline of my argument is that 90% of these multivitamins get excreted out
I am coming in good faith I just want to know more perspectives, please dont precieve my replies as hostile or edgy
F8l8SZ
No.47478
>>47469
Stfu begcuck
+UMqhV
No.47479
>>47472
Soft eugenics (1 child policy for undesirables , 3+ child policy for desirables) isn't the same as genociding, torturing, animals so you can feel good about yourself and project your own shortcomings in a violent manner onto innocent beings.
Yes, you think it's tasty. is fun too, Child same. You can eat humans too. As long as it makes you feel good.
There is no real line of right and wrong with this logic. Only reason you aren't doing any of these is because you are too weak to do it and get away with it.
I would be posting animal slaughter videos 24/7 to redpill people but 70 IQ jeets can't handle the truth.
zJHcFh
No.47482
mmzIab
No.47483
>>47469
>There is no such thing as high quality or low quality meat. Meat is always low quality. All meat has the risk of diseaes from simple bacterial diseaes to actually prionic diseaes which you can't handle at all.
The reason i don't buy this remark of yours is because yes it is possibility but we are not in 3rd century. We know how to boil/cook meat.
Other disease are not as prevalent anyway. Biggest issue is probably hygiene in idnia - most people are suffering from that than other meat related disease.
>da joos
Saar homo sapiens have been eating meat before da joos please stop.
Rest idk, there's possible meat industry propaganda - psyops. There's definitely a bit of cultish attitude among certain religion to use spiritual aspect of hindus to hurt them or bait them - we have talked about it separately but in India it's nothing to do with the da joos.
gM/W8+
No.47486
>>47479
>Soft eugenics
Does not work, and it very obviously does not work lmao. How do you even come up with this retarded shit.
>Only reason you aren't doing any of these is because you are too weak to do it and get away with it.
Personal morals are a different thing(aka, I will not because I don't want to). And yes, if you remove all laws, there will be a lot of s and cannibalism.
>I would be posting animal slaughter videos 24/7 to redpill people but 70 IQ jeets can't handle the truth.
I am aware of how said meat that I eat comes from. I don't find that these slaughter videos push me towards vegetarianism.
mmzIab
No.47487
>>47477
>were my points not convincing enough?
Mostly the assumption that sole meat diet is enough. - I don't think it's even remotely correct.
Even with non-veg diet you should include grean leafy veggies, milk etc. or even eggs.
I have done this in the past, budget around 15k probably but it had few other things too.
I think something like below
>protein powder + eggs + green leafy veggies + milk + (optional bread / pulses, etc.)
can meat your most of the needs, if you feel there's a need you can opt for multi vitamins.
I have done something around maybe 8k to 12k
For complete veggies, you can remove the eggs and include multivitan, protein powder, grene leafy veggies, milk , breads, pulses, paneer etc.
Kinda like my current routine but i am currently a bit irregular on it. Though planning to go back to 2nd option again.
mmzIab
No.47490
>>47487
Side note: I am a bit concerned about protein obsession among zoomies. But seeing how braindead the raitas can be when it comes to slops and how much india is suffering from lack of proper nutrition i let it slide.
+UMqhV
No.47491
>>47474
Zoonotic diseaes are an actual threat to humanity. There isn't any such plant disease. And E.coli isn't related to the plant itself , its related to the lack of hygiene of the person which produces/handles it.
E.coli also is much more common in the meat industry.
But E coli si just a bacteria. Just wait until you get prionic diseases and then think at least you ate another animals power like a n+gger so now you became more powerful kek
> he thinks the meat he is eating is "fresher" than other meat
> if i use a stun gun it will be clean
kek you have obviously never ever seen or realized how meat is made, produced and handled
it's the most unhygienic thing that exists on this planet
eating shit is literally more hygienic than eating meat (because meat contains puss, blood, piss and shit - yes there are acceptable ranges of that for every meat producer)
and no, i dont advocate eating shit
> 47483
boiling doesnt get rid of prionic diseaes and it doesnt stop contamination and infections that results from handling , transporting , producing the meat itself .
> da joos
yes, it is a psyop and you retards are all falling for it because you are resentful pajeets and are looking for a shortcut to power , which you see in the form of inflicting torture/abuse on another being to make yourself feel better
and yes, certain people (mostly of the desertn+gger variety ) are making money off all of this
>> 47486
it works very well , if you just enforce it properly , and its very fast as well.
> i dont care about how meat is produced
cool, then dont expect people to care when you get slaughtered in a feel good moment either
zJHcFh
No.47494
>>47487
You're overcomplicating it. Meat, eggs, and maybe some dairy already provide nearly everything you need. Sure, adding leafy greens is fine, but acting like a non-veg diet requires extra supplements is unnecessary.
You’re also proving the point if a veg diet needs protein powders and multivitamins to cover the gaps, that just shows it’s not naturally complete. A well-balanced non-veg diet doesn’t require all these extra steps. Just eat properly, and you won’t have to micromanage every nutrient.
>veggies
Veggies are just plant defense mechanisms disguised as food. They’re loaded with anti-nutrients like oxalates, lectins, and goitrogens that wreck digestion, block mineral absorption, and mess with your thyroid. Ever wonder why cows have to ferment grass in multiple stomachs? Because plants don’t want to be eaten.
Meanwhile, meat gives you everything you need in the most bioavailable form, no weird chemicals included. People out here choking down kale smoothies thinking they’re being healthy while destroying their gut.
gM/W8+
No.47496
>>47491
>it works very well , if you just enforce it properly , and its very fast as well.
Kitne retarded ho aap. Do you really think that the said undesirables will accept this policy without violence.
>slaughtered in a feel good moment either
Kon karega? Veg cucks? They can't even harm a chicken.
zJHcFh
No.47498
>>47490
true, we don't need to obsess over protein, they usually do it because they are obsessed over gymceling which is even worse for our health
zJHcFh
No.47500
>>47491
Zoonotic diseases exist, sure, but acting like they’re exclusive to meat is just misleading. Plant agriculture relies on animal manure, pesticides, and heavy processing, which also introduce contamination risks. E. coli outbreaks happen in leafy greens too—it’s not just a "meat industry problem."
Prion diseases? Unless you’re eating infected brain matter, that’s not a real concern. Meanwhile, vegans have to supplement B12 just to function because plant-based diets lack essential nutrients naturally.
Meat, when sourced and handled properly, is perfectly safe and far more nutrient-dense than any plant-based alternative. If hygiene is your concern, focus on food quality rather than writing off an entire food group.
zJHcFh
No.47501
Leftists don't understand Capitalism
They mistake the process for the end goal.
The END game of Capitalism is to destroy all inferior completions and optimise the product, its production and supply - Monopolization
We don't need gorillion samosa shops, we need the best samosa shop to win, and then all people should buy only from that shop.
Same philosophy is needed in biological realm, infact that is exactly how nature works.
We need to weed out inferiority in looks intelligence, health etc - this is the only right way of population control.
In a world full of Robots - the labour class is no longer needed.>>47496
>>47491
+UMqhV
No.47502
>>47496
> you can have 1 child and in exchange that child and you can live in dignity and prosperity
that sounds like a deal most people will accept quite easily
> who is going to eat me
it will happen, a psychopath with your kind of thinking will just end up slaughtering you/your family, eating you/your family
there's really no limitation once you start killing stuff for pleasure
Chinks have eaten meat for milennia and they are still.. chinks. btw. this is just a psyops and you morons are falling for it.
gM/W8+
No.47509
mmzIab
No.47513
>>47494
yaar you are too stuck up i can't continue convo on this topic so let's just stop here.
Just go to chat gpt and feed it in what happens when you are just dependent on solely meat based diet. You will develop deficiencies, lack of fiber. etc.
Rest of it is just rant against vegetarianism i am not interested in futile debate over it.
I don't like either of pure non-veg or pure - veg cultism. You are the former one here.
SpkfKG
No.47516
>>47479
I unironically don't see anything THAT wrong in cannibalism, it is equal to murder. If I can kill someone, I honestly wouldn't mind eating them.
+UMqhV
No.47517
>>47500
Zoonotic diseases mostly only exist BECAUSE of meat industry and consumption. This is actually very well studied. Even viruses like HIV stem from n+ggers eating monkey meat.
And E. Coli comes from humans (its an ass to mouth bacteria, so lack of hygiene on the human part), not because "platns are unhygienic".
Meat consumption is ridden with : bacteria, viruses, parasites, prionic diseases , and its the major source, catalyst and propagator of these things.
Its absolutely not safe you retard kek. The main reason why India still exists is because of vegetarianism - otherwise diseases would have absolutely d all populations. And it's just a question of time until that will happen once meat consumption pops off.
SpkfKG
No.47519
>>47517
HIV is from fucking
+UMqhV
No.47534
Major pandemics that happened recently
Imagine what would occur in Lundia if everybody started eating shitmeat
kek the jews dont even have to do anything, just make jeets eat meat and they will produce a virus that will kill them all
+UMqhV
No.47535
>>47519
No, its from some n+gger that ate monkey bushmeat and was exposed to its blood.
zJHcFh
No.47536
>>47517
You’re acting like zoonotic diseases exist solely because of meat consumption, but that’s just selective reasoning. If meat was inherently unsafe, humans wouldn’t have thrived as omnivores for thousands of years. The real issue is poor hygiene, improper food handling, and lack of regulation, not the existence of meat itself
>Zoonotic Diseases Are Not Exclusive to Meat
Yes, many zoonotic diseases come from animals, but that doesn’t mean avoiding meat eliminates the risk.
Plant-based agriculture also spreads diseases. Fungal infections like ergot poisoning from grains, listeria in vegetables, and E. coli outbreaks in leafy greens have all caused massive health crises. The problem isn’t the food—it’s contamination and improper handling.
Waterborne diseases (like cholera) thrive in agricultural runoff, especially from pesticides and fertilizers used in large-scale plant farming.
>The Real Source of Zoonotic Pandemics
You bring up HIV originating from bushmeat—yes, it likely came from eating infected primates, but that has nothing to do with regulated meat consumption.
SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 all likely originated from wild animal markets, not from eating farmed chicken or beef.
The real risk comes from unsanitary conditions and unregulated wildlife consumption, not your average supermarket steak.
>Meat Is Not “Inherently Unsafe”
If you handle and cook meat properly, the risk of infection is almost zero.
You act like people are out here eating raw pig intestines daily. Meanwhile, even raw vegetables can carry deadly bacteria.
Prion diseases (like mad cow) are extremely rare and only happen in specific cases of contaminated feed. If you’re not eating infected brain matter, you’re fine.
>India’s Survival Wasn’t Because of Vegetarianism
Saying India "survived because of vegetarianism" is just false. If anything, India has high malnutrition rates precisely because many people don’t eat enough animal products.
The country’s disease control improved because of modern medicine, sanitation, and antibiotics, not because people avoided meat.
If vegetarianism was so superior, why do Indians still struggle with anemia and B12 deficiency at such high rates? Because plant-based diets lack essential nutrients without supplementation.
zJHcFh
No.47538
>>47513
fair sirs, just wanted to have a debate, seems like I failed to properly push out my view
zJHcFh
No.47549
>>47349(OP)
bumpesh yadav
+UMqhV
No.47565
>>47536
Meat itself is unhygienic. Storing, transporting, producing it is unhygienic. And all the non zoonotic diseaes you mentioned are just GIT diseaes which are related to using water that humans shat in to water plants (which you have to do to feed animals anyway genius). Thats just 70 IQ on display nothing else (not because plants are "unhygienic" lol) There are guideliens for all of these things in Europe - and they are mostly related to what are acceptable lab values (in other words: you can never be hygienic when handling, eating etc. meat) to ensure that certain threshholds aren't crossed. However these threshholds get crossed regularly and are simply accepted for cultural reasons (tradition of eating meat and torturing animals for pleasure).
This isn't a brahamnical LARP to stop you from eating meat, its simply the truth.
And the moment you fucktards start eating and producing this shit, you will actually the whole country with diseases mankind has not ever seen before. Like not only are Indians not suited to handle meat, they actually will start cutting corners in a worse way than chinks do.
And no amount of meat consumption will fix your subhumanity. Chinese have eaten meat (they even torture animals to make meat taste better, yum yum) for milennia and they are still just subhuman chinks. Eating meat for pajeets like you is just a shortcut to power (magical thinking). They think that surely because an animal has suffered its power must be transferred to me. N+ggers have the same line of thinking. And they are still just n+ggers.
The only way to fix your subhumanity is by RACIAL SELECTION.
Malnutrition of indians is just a myth - the whole food industrial complex is mostly a myth. Yes, you shouldn't starve yourself and you need a varied diet - but that doesn't necessary include meat.
Producing meat should be illegal unless its from animals that died a natural death. Even then it should be under heavy restrictions due to public health reasons.
zJHcFh
No.47624
>>47565
This is just peak pseudoscience mixed with racism and emotional arguments.
>Meat is unnhygienic
Meat can carry pathogens, but so can literally any food if it’s not stored or handled properly.
Saying meat is "inherently unhygienic" is like saying water is dangerous because people drown in it.
Proper storage, refrigeration, and cooking eliminate nearly all risks.
Meanwhile, plant-based foods still carry risks like E. coli, salmonella, and listeria. You ever wonder why people keep getting sick from bagged lettuce?
>European guidelines
The fact that Europe has strict meat safety guidelines proves that safe meat consumption is possible.
These “acceptable lab values” exist for all food, not just meat.
If meat was inherently unhygienic, people eating it daily would be dropping dead left and right. But guess what? They’re not.
>Indians Can’t Handle Meat
People in India already eat meat. Millions of them. Have they all been wiped out by disease? Nope.
The idea that “Indians cutting corners” would destroy the country with new diseases is just fearmongering. China has wet markets with exotic animals—that’s not the same as regulated meat production.
Meanwhile, plant-based malnutrition in India is not a myth. High anemia rates and B12 deficiencies exist for a reason.
>Meat Transfers Power
Nobody (except maybe ancient tribes) eats meat thinking they’re absorbing an animal’s “power.”
People eat it because it’s nutrient-dense, high in bioavailable protein, and contains essential vitamins like B12, iron, and omega-3s that plant foods lack.
If anything, vegans are the ones relying on magical thinking, believing they can replace all essential nutrients with supplements.
+UMqhV
No.47668
>>47624
> e coli
> salmonella
> listeria
again yaar:
this comes from the fact that jeets shit in the water they drink and use for watering plants without any water treatment pyaare there is no such thing as an "unhygienic" plant , of course you have to water and cook the plant because an animal might have shat on it or some vegetable seller might have scratched his ass and touched it
but you will never get Kreutzfeld Jakob from eating a plant kek
This isn't the same with meat: meat ITSELF is a source of diseases , no matter how well you handle it. It just gets worse if you handle it incompetently - which indians WILL absolutely do.
And the worst part of it, is the animals will suffer even more due to some retarded Lundian thinking he can squeeze some more money in some way.
> guidelines
yes, these are just guidelines to ensure people don't cause mass endemic events kek but these events STILL happen even with these guidelines in place - if you eat meat you have to accept that you will eat all the shit (literal shit , and more) and there is a risk associated with it
that is simply the nature of the meat industry - it is inherently linked with infectious diseaeses that CANT be prevented (especially not in a place like India , where people WILL cut corners and try every trick to squeeze one more Rupee) - its a gamble that you accept depending on your culture
> people eat meat for le protein meme and B12 and iron kek
Indians are neither anemic nor are they B12 deficient. But many indians are subhumans because they are racially not selected enough compared to other groups (even other indian groups). And no, you can eat every meat in the world and you will still be a subhuman because you are just racially inferior. That's the sad truth for you.
The fact you are trying to use malnutrition (which exists only if you are literally starving) as an argument to torture animals for pleasure is insane.
UXDMS4
No.47675
>>47565
>Chinese have eaten meat (they even torture animals to make meat taste better, yum yum) for milennia and they are still just subhuman chinks
Aren't they getting taller and stronger tho ?
>Malnutrition of indians is just a myth
BULLSHIT
>And the moment you fucktards start eating and producing this shit, you will actually the whole country with diseases mankind has not ever seen before. Like not only are Indians not suited to handle meat, they actually will start cutting corners in a worse way than chinks do.
Actually makes sense
Imagine the horror
UXDMS4
No.47679
>>47624
Iss bkl ko iska le heckin racial selectivity krne do kek
/5BFbF
No.47742
>>47349(OP)
pasting copy - pasta here, lol
dont pretend as if you know sanskrit, there are enough points where it is said to offer cow as sacrificee as eat, absolute retard, cunts like you would make lundia veg and even say non veg was not allowed.
for all the shit you wrote tell me if you know sanskrit, and if you do, i will give sanskrit, that wouldn't be translated by translators but a human would, and you would just have to translate it.... tell me if you are up for challenge, I know this copy pasta shit, from the time i read Medhya word
kek pajeet
/5BFbF
No.47748
>>47463
>lab grown meat
mfing jew cunt, industrialised food is souless crap which is filled with carcinogens, Death to Dayush
mmzIab
No.47750
>>47748
yes saar that meat from thella over the sewage is pure gem.
please enjoy your e-coli ridden meat saar.
hWiMXr
No.47751
>>47349(OP)
>>Reading Vedas
Stopped reading there.
I prefer reading Harry Potter books when I want to read fiction.
/5BFbF
No.47753
>>47502
and they outmog lundia in terms of science , money and btfo lundia in war and would still do it today
anon they are increasing their height, and that despite them having poor genetics than us, they are doing all this, despite poor genetics then us, (by the way I am a nigger) have some shame
>>47517
if you dont knw what hygiene is then of-course even veg diet will kill you,
dont pretend as if we had no diseases here, you are drinking same milk from cows which are reoaming the streets munching plastic bags, remember , when i advocate meat, its grass fed not industrialised
but hindus are drinking milk whose micro plpastic content is far more than that of western counterparts,
they just pastuerise to kill microbacteria to an extent that only few good ones left, microplastic and thew dead bodies of bad microbacteria still remains anon
/5BFbF
No.47754
>>47750
ahh yes,. vegggies transported by biharis who use shitty water of river which has sewage is pure kino
>https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/in-focus/article/delhi-farmers-using-toxic-sewage-water-to-grow-vegetables-heres-why/453251
mfer tell me how i know you never stepped a foot in village , tell me how i know you dont shit about farming and reality of lundia
mfer cope , chamaar dayush
/5BFbF
No.47755
>>47754
i could cite more than 1000 of sources of shitty veggies being supplied in lundian market,
In lundia both veg and non veg is shit, but seeing you chimp for lab grown meat ; just prooves your ignorance , it like how hindus leave their cows after milking . your iognorance is equal to that
mmzIab
No.47756
>>47754
>ahh yes,. vegggies transported by biharis who use shitty water of river which has sewage is pure kino
>brings up veggies in a convo about lab grown meat
>can't think beyond vegcel vs non-vegcel debate
god you are such a retard it's not worth conv'ing.
You win.
/5BFbF
No.47758
>>47756
bringing lab grown industrialised meat in conversation of real food,
ngmi
pajeet , its the shit veg diet that you cant comprehend you started off-topic shit with your lab based carcinogenic chimp out.
absolute state of fags . . . ..
no wonder the site is gay is shit
AhG3LW
No.47760
>>47742
mind citing the sources?
I never claimed to be a sanskriy expert, I only just cleared the misinterpreted translations made by muller and wilson and griffith and shared translations by indian scholars who understand Sanskrit and the entire context better
Also I dont advocate for veg diet, I personally advocate for a based meat,eeg, milk and fruit based diet with only slight fibers (debetable)
/5BFbF
No.47772
>>47760
>>47760
ab 24 * 7 me bhi leke nahi ghumta,
but below i can mention 2 which i remember recently cause i was just doing some work on mahabharta
there are many other, even weapons were made from cow skin and other, the pratyancha of bow was made from either bull or horse hamstring, i can go on and on, if i go on every scripture
/5BFbF
No.47776
>>47773
this was karna describing madra rajya, if this was happening in states which were allies of yudhishthira and krishna , then one can imagine
Some cite that this was in the heat of moment, but we see similarities in mithila kingdom, where kaushiki brahmin usedd to sell meat of cattle and was a videhmukt
god i have soo much shit on this, once i search up my lib
AhG3LW
No.47777
>>47772
>>47773
interesting desu, that does add more perspective to the debate
however I would like to hear what your opinion on the texts which I just shared (If you understand sanskrit that's even better) , do you think that the earlier translations were misinterpreted (by foriegners) or are the current indian ones misinterpreting these texts to fit there narratives of anti AIT and meat?
AhG3LW
No.47778
>>47776
interesting
GmAifP
No.47782
>>47668
>malnutrition exists only if you are starving
these are the retards arguing for vegcuckism kek.
>muh subhooman
doesnt matter if you are le ebin aryan or le dasyu, if you dont eat nutrient rich food you will be deficient .
/5BFbF
No.47786
>>47777
mistranslation is a huge discussion, on which books are written
I take things a bit differently
If muller was indeed unable to properly translate a few verses (unknowingly or knowingly), then who is bigger culprit
one who adulterated smriti and shruti(shruti texts are very less adulterated , but nonetheless, they have been adulterated)
Or this muller guy who just wanted to translate, and because of whom entire india now got to read translation, otherwise brahmans used to think thsese texts were sacred and would not disclose anything to common masses
Alloupanisshad (written after islamic influence ) is prime example, tulsi ramayana is prime example of shit written by brahmnanas,
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There are very little people who want to see it as history, and almost all born after 2014 see it as religion
This idea of yuga needs to go away, its false, once you realise adulteration has happened, it makes you hate lundians more, i can cite mahabbhrata itself, where writing stuylechanges so much from chapter to chapter than one can easily identify bullshit
its plain indian way of throwing shit on others while not accepting their own faults.
Muller has little to nothing to do with this shit, as a matter of fact, his entire contributiton comes out as positive only , considering it is because of these britishers most got to read the translations
Are we to neglect runts who even added new upanishads in the category of shruti texts just becuase of muslim influence?
Are we to forget just what a shit show garuda purana is?
thankfully these discussion on these topics were way to good in web 2.0, today all of lundia is pundit on dinduism as if they were rishis born direcltly out of womb
/5BFbF
No.47788
>>47786
I for one has always read from multiple sources, to me i read mullers vedas and translation very late and that too becuase it was hyped as if major mistranslation was there , as in something world shattering happened to lundians becuase of this,
as a matter of fact ,there are far more more differences in KKMG mahabhartaa vs some full hindi translation of that time
Take gandhari, she never even me tduryodhana before he went to final battle, and all of india chimps out on this shit, as if she had super powr to give some high armour and shit.
Hindus neglecting their own faults and trying to put major blame on others for their own fall
W7h0an
No.47797
>>47786
Müller didn’t "save" these texts, lmao. British translations weren’t some noble act of knowledge-sharing; they were made to control and divide. The fact that Brahmins hoarded texts doesn’t suddenly make colonial-era distortions "positive."
Yeah, Hindu texts have been adulterated—Mahabharata, Puranas, even some Upanishads got tampered with—but you’re acting like the British just "revealed the truth" instead of pushing their own narrative. Müller's Aryan race theory? Total Victorian-era cope, and it fueled colonial divide-and-rule.
Also, this "Yugas are fake" take is whatever. The real issue is people refusing to study Sanskrit and relying on 19th-century mistranslations instead of actually cross-checking sources. Web 2.0 had better discussions because people weren’t just parroting colonial-tier Reddit history like they do now.
W7h0an
No.47800
I get your point about Hindus ignoring their own textual adulterations, but your take on Müller is too naive. You're acting like just because Indian texts have been altered, Müller’s translations were somehow "neutral" or fine. They weren’t.
Müller didn’t just "translate"—he actively injected race-based theories into the texts. The whole “Aryan = noble conquerors, Dravidians = dark-skinned defeated people” narrative? That wasn’t in the Sanskrit, Müller and his buddies spun that. The British used it for divide-and-rule, and this fake racial divide still screws with Indian discourse today.
Also, your Mahabharata example is weak. KKMG vs. full Hindi translation differences? Yeah, textual variation exists, but that’s not the same as colonial mistranslation with deliberate racial and religious distortion. Hindus ignoring their own faults? Sure. But acting like British Indologists were just objective scholars who "helped Indians read their own texts" is some serious bootlicking.
>>47788
W7h0an
No.47801
This "Brahmins adulterated everything" take is lazy as hell. Yeah, some later Smriti texts got altered, but that doesn’t mean the entire tradition was some scam by Brahmins to deceive people. If that were the case, why did they preserve the Vedas with extreme accuracy for thousands of years? Even modern linguists admit the Vedic oral tradition is one of the most precise in human history.
Also, blaming Brahmins for "hiding" texts is another weak argument. Literacy was low everywhere in the world, and not everyone had access to sacred texts in any ancient civilization. You think the Bible or Quran was freely handed out to everyone in medieval Europe or the Islamic world? Gatekeeping wasn’t a uniquely Indian thing, it was just how religious knowledge was handled globally.
Müller’s translations didn’t "save" Hindu texts, they reframed them through a colonial and racial lens. If you think that’s a win, you’re just replacing one distortion with another. Indians didn’t fall because of Brahmins or Müller—they fell because of centuries of invasions, internal division, and external manipulation.
pzPfhI
No.47804
didnt read any post itt but jo bhi gayaush ka opinion hoga mai hamesha uske khilaaf rahunga kyuki woh chakka hai
/5BFbF
No.47822
>>47800
>But acting like British Indologists were just objective scholars who "helped Indians read their own texts" is some serious bootlicking.
i am simply choosing to neglect britishers translations because they are not referred anywhere by anybody, oher than people who suddenly woke up after 2014 , and picked up on britishers ,
Nobody cared for them before , and theys simply do it now as they are easy targets
I never defended him on AIT, one can easily see through them,but they never were accepeted by masses and were never a point that was considered by anobody, it was simply used by people to chimpout
I simply wanted to put attention to something which was far evil, which was our own shit....
Muller's take were nohting, he was just one guy, we had multiple like tulsi and such who just were swept under the radar or white washed simply because they werre our own, but i never consider them as our own
TO say omly smriti;s were targetted would be lazy of you, i have see huge anomolies in many upanishads too, there arfe reasons why even sankara peeth tries to keep major upanishad number to 12 anon.... there are things which even they dont talk about in this context
To me , Muller is just nobody who is only highlighted by hindus to make themseleves feel better that were big enough that world would consipire against them , meanwhile he was just one runt......|
AIT is something that went in other direction later (into genetic history) , which is fine, and it should stay there
/5BFbF
No.47834
reminds me of this one line which was very problemetic
https://www.indiadivine.org/content/topic/1309404-is-lord-shiva-the-son-of-brahma/
here it was mentioned that shiva was son of brahma in mahabhartata , and every translation was right, one can see chaitanaya cunts who added whatever they wanted simply cause they wanted....
you have plethors of shit like this, its just one like where discussion spanned so long,
PS - I actually was in on that discussion, kek
Most s would never admit the lines which were later added to soothe egos
W7h0an
No.47836
>>47822
You're right that British Indologists weren’t some mastermind villains, but completely ignoring their influence is just as naive. Nobody cared for their translations back then because most Indians couldn’t even access them. The nationalist revival post-2014 just made people dig up things that were always there, but overlooked.
Also, dismissing British translations while calling Tulsi and other Indian figures "far more evil" is just picking a scapegoat closer to home. Sure, later texts had inconsistencies, but let’s not act like the British didn't have an agenda. Muller may not have been some grand conspirator, but colonial academics did contribute to distorting Indian history, whether intentionally or out of ignorance.
And about Upanishads—yes, even they have layers of later additions. But that’s the nature of texts transmitted for millennia. Instead of picking a single villain (whether Muller or Tulsi), the focus should be on understanding the texts in their proper historical and cultural context—not just throwing blame around.
