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Anonymous

IN

imPjPM

No.19224

Korea will be the first country to go extinct due to extreme feminism, stoodycelling, social atomisation and alienation.

Anonymous

IN

imPjPM

No.19225

Anonymous

IN

imPjPM

No.19226

India is on the same path btw.

ML

NAdAh6

No.19231

>>19224(OP)

oh noes! anyway

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19235

>>19226

No. Korean s got western dick for backup. Indian s got aint. Theres neither eniugh emoloyment that enough women en masse could be self sufficient to mess with tfr.

Anonymous

IN

imPjPM

No.19249

>>19235

Yeah I know all that but despite that indian TFR had hit 1.9 in 2020, note that in india the replacement rate is higher due to infant mortality and fucked up sex ratio.

NFHS-6 data will be released soon, I think it will further fall to 1.6-1.7

The urban TFR in India was already 1.6 in NFHS-5 (2019-20)

Just look around, most couples have 2 children max nowadays.

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19251

>>19249

So what. India can lose 1,000,000,000 fucking people and still be 2nd most populated country. Things will settle themselve. People in india only having less kids because of economy and nothing else.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19252

Some data points should not be considered for a country as a whole in country like India, it gives wrong perspective.

Many south indian states are way below the replacement level.

>>19224(OP)

>western dynamism

these dehatis truly can't help themselves most of the countries in west too are way below the replacement level.

Also, a reason why you should be always cautious of 'western academia' and approval. they are more sinister than anyone else.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19255

>>19251

>So what. India can lose 1,000,000,000 fucking people and still be 2nd most populated country. Things will settle themselve. People in india only having less kids because of economy and nothing else.

It's not that simple, you need to look at individual states. A state in India itself is equivalent to country and many of them are below replacement - they won't have enough manpower for industries, infra work or factories while their population is getting older and overall population is decreasing so complete crisis in such states.

Only reason they don't notice or they are able to move through this is due to cheap labour from north.

Anonymous

IN

imPjPM

No.19256

>>19251

Don't know anything about population pyramid award

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19261

>>19255

>they won't have enough manpower for industries, infra work or factories while their population is getting older

Thank god bihari bros having highest tfr. They'll handle it. Even then. There is enough population to handle infrastructure as like more than 50% of indians are farmers.

>>19256

Jatt don't care. India is cheap enough to care for 2 oldies

Anonymous

IN

04C2bV

No.19262

>>19255

biharCHADS can't stop winning

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19266

>>19261

>>19262

>Thank god bihari bros having highest tfr. They'll handle it. Even then. There is enough population to handle infrastructure as like more than 50% of indians are farmers.

Problem is that even bihar is going down and due to their manpower most of the state government are oblivious to the existential problem just at the corner.

I think stalin very recently did ask for TN people to breed more. Not gonna happen but let's see.

Anonymous

IN

04C2bV

No.19268

>>19266

>TN people to breed more

FUCK NO. subhuman southie dasyus need to be bred out of existence.

Anonymous

IN

imPjPM

No.19269

>>19262

kek only like 3-4 states in India still have above replacement fertility.

Even Bihar's fertility rate is declining only, just slower than others

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19270

>>19224(OP)

Is it the real reason? Why cant they just reproduce? Did people not have babies while wageslaving in horrible conditions during early decades of industrial revolution?

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19271

>>19266

I very well repeat again

"Even if india lost 1000,000,000 people. It would still be 2nd most populated country"

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19272

>>19268

someone wishes same for you anamas, doesn't mean you should kill yourself for others validation.

south indians have richer history, empires than most countries in this world. they have no reason to pay hoots to your feelings.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19273

>>19271

ok saaaar.

btw just during one festival when biharis return to state, entire infra work in rest of the parts of the countries comes to pure halt.

most industries can barely find labours who are willing to work for designated time. but don't worry desu, it will become more obvious in less than 10 years.

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19274

>>19270

No. Industrial revolution actually allowed for more population thus population growth. People could earn more in factories than they could ever have in their farms. But today's corporate republic and land hoarder problems. Cost of living has skyrocketed. It could be fixed with really simple solutions but pajeets are too pajeet for it.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19275

>>19270

They got anglo'd, parasites who ate their country from within. Unless they get rid of that parasite nothing can be done to save them, honestly not mourning either.

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19276

>>19255

Why do we need migrant labour? Srsly call me dumb regarding economics but is there any reason apart from that it decreases wages and benefits employers. Wont the economy adjust itself according to population.

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19277

>>19273

>>19273

>btw just during one festival when biharis return to state, entire infra work in rest of the parts of the countries comes to pure halt.

Good. I wish biharies come into an union too. The wages they are paid are american dystopian levels.

Cauliflower farmer duck

IN

YVM6EB

No.19278

>>19275

There's a big fight between korean feminists and their men right now.

The feminists do want babies but as single moms using sperm donation, for this they want government to allow danish sperm clinics to open in korea.(Yeah, that is actually a political discussion happening there right now.)

The men are against this for obvious reasons, but the feminists say this will reduce the birth rates crisis.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19280

>>19276

>Srsly call me dumb regarding economics but is there any reason apart from that it decreases wages and benefits employers.

Good question desu, it's just that infra work etc. are very low margin so companies try their best to squeeze any tiny bit of profit they can if they have to stay afloat. So they can't provide 5 star level facilities to the labourers even if they try.

Job is not interesting for locals either. Also, it's cultural thing - bihari workers are well acquainted with how these things function and can accommodate i doubt same can be said about kinda richer states population.

>Wont the economy adjust itself according to population.

More older population compared to younger population leading to human resource being stretched, younger population being burdened with aging population.

It's a viscious cycle desu.


What is going to change among all of this is how much we can automate, how efficiently we can automate and UBI. Nothing else feels like gonna work.

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19282

>>19274

We are living in better times regardless of all the 'kalyug' 'end times' rona you hear.

>cost of living has skyrocketed.

People were working 5 to 9 in factories back then, living paycheck to paycheck, just had to be content with daily bread and couldnt enjoy modern luxuries. Theres a fucking reason early 20th century saw so many workers uprising. Has cost of living really risen or are people just too demanding today?

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19283

>>19278

all these gender division, feminism etc. there is pushed by the western governments to svbvert them and koreans being slightly more hollow culturally absored every western psyops all of the rest is just after affects.

this is why we should be cautious - criticism is good but when divisive rhetoric are flamed you need to have proper base, your cultural base to tackle things. nobody sitting outside india is looking for our well being now matter how pious how innoncent they seem to look. concept of shatru-bodha should be ingrained in every indian.

Cauliflower farmer duck

IN

YVM6EB

No.19285

>>19283

Probably is not want wants to be "Indian", as soon as a region starts doing better than average they start saying shit like "rest of India is a shit hole but we, we are doing uniquely better".

I have seen it among pahadi people, soythies are well known for doing this shit. Now Maharashtrian people also have started this shit

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19286

>>19277

>Good. I wish biharies come into an union too. The wages they are paid are american dystopian levels.

I do think that maybe it would be a good thing for the bihar government to centralize all of their labour export and it would lead to better knowledge retation, working condition and even health insurance to the workers.

Only reason i am a bit concerned is babus, corruptions and like every good idea, these would also lead to adverse impact so maybe just decentralization is better - lesser control by babus is better. They destroy everything they touch anyway.

Another option is probably a private body which trains talents and manages them - something that tata is already doing. But instead of coolies we have those in trade.

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19287

>>19282

You're a fucking retarded boomer. Cost of living has risen and its fucking obvious. Anyone over 30 can see how things are much more expensive than what it was 10-15 yr ago and with inflation fix. One could buy enough amenities to raise mutliple kids and buy land with factory wage during those times. Now you cant buy shit in any tier 2 with avg wages.

>are people just too demanding today?

Eveyrthing is relative to times.

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19288

>>19280

>More older population compared to younger population leading to human resource.

But not every young person is productive right? Those below <18yo cant participate in workforce at all and many dont begin to contribute until they are 25. So why is it a concern? If we have more old people we also have less children so it balances out right?

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19289

>>19287

By those times, i meant early industrialicatiom times.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19292

>>19285

>Probably is not want wants to be "Indian", as soon as a region starts doing better than average they start saying shit like "rest of India is a shit hole but we, we are doing uniquely better".

yes desu this retardation needs to be addressed, some interesting false flaggers.

this emerges from innate inferiority complex, something which westerners do exploit like visiting kerala and then pushing this cycle of north vs south.

it can be easily solved by making north and south navigation a bit more smoother, high speed trains, cultural migration - say mahakumbh, that shiv ji corridor in varanasi. as societies mingle more it will be easier to quell this divisionary tactics. apart from our own psyops department pushing for nationalistic rehtorics.

nationalism is also a mini assimilation program tbh.

Anonymous

BR

gzliSz

No.19294

>>19261

>Thank god bihari bros having highest tfr. They'll handle it.

Making fun of us, discriminating against us based on jobs, calling for mass killing because we do the jobs none of your state people are willing to do, and then when your own population of local pajeets declines you come to us.

Fuck all of you, both southies and northies. You all consider us as inferior to all of you until question of heendu samaj and india TFR comes up. Bunch of hypocritical faggots

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19296

>>19287

You have had a sheltered life probably. Do you know the kind of brutal poverty that 80% of people in this country lived in 40 50 years ago? People fucking used to eat rice with salt for meals and wear torn clothes.

Anonymous

IN

7XgBht

No.19297

>>19294

Bihar and Gangetic core was always the heart of our greatest empire, all our culture today is downstream of those empires.

It's natural that others tilt towards them and ones the day is near, they will take the charge and sons of magadha will rise again.

It's written in the pan parag packets.

Cauliflower farmer duck

IN

YVM6EB

No.19298

>>19294

>Fuck all of you, both southies and northies. You all consider us as inferior to all of you until question of heendu samaj and india TFR comes up. Bunch of hypocritical faggots

Hindu samaj is dead no such thing has ever existed for the last 1000 years.

Also Bihari's do the labour job because they have no other options, not out of some goodwill. They will do the majdoori regardless of how racist we are to them. Just like how pajeets will still go to jewsa no matter ho racist it becomes

Anonymous

IN

/swiw/

No.19306

>>19296

Ano, i was talking about industrialised places and factory workers. Obviously most of the world have always been in poverty. Clothes were a luxury. But not food. There was no scarcity of food. My grandparents who lived in a bimaru shithole tells me about it. Even poor people had enough food to raise kids and even LCs baring roadside (indian) ig.. How do you think pardadas raised 7-8 kids? They also bought enough land for their 4-6 kids(grandpas) to let them atleast have a house later on. Can anyone do this in 2025? Let alone 4, people shit their pants thinking about raising 2.

Anonymous

IN

HbMilW

No.19321

>>19268

Quiet if there are no Tamils who will make my Dosas and Carnatic music

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19325

>>19306

>There was no scarcity of food.

Lmao. Yaar pajeet namak wale chawal or roti with achar isnt abundance of food. Have you seen the old photos and videos of british india. Literally most of the commoners look malnourished. Even today india suffers from significant rates of childhood stunting.

>How do you think pardadas raised 7-8 kids They also bought enough land for their 4-6 kids(grandpas).

Your average guy didnt have 7 8 kids. They had 3 to 4 at most surviving into adulthood. Half of the newborns would die right at birth. Birth rates only increased around 70s when birth control was non existent but mortality had reduced. And no most people didnt have much land before zamindari system was abolished and land reforms happened. Even after that most land today remains with certain (indian)s only.

Anonymous

TN

1HvrZ8

No.19355

>>19272

Dyaush now has honorary bdl status

Anonymous

IN

3KRNr8

No.19521

>>19270

Real reason is modern lifestyle allows us to escape from reality

Why go through trouble and cost of raising kids when you can easily live fulfilling lives on your own. And people give less fucks about society compared to past

Countries like korea japan and all are developed and industrialized and people can consoom stuff as much they want

In india itself least developed state has most highest birthrate

Anonymous

IN

D9shr3

No.19530

Amurika is taking revenge from Korea and Japoon

Anonymous

IN

3KRNr8

No.19533

>>19282

Nowadays people almost always have to send there kids to expensive schools and then for some degree in college.

And even after one finally gets a job he will spend it repaying older loans or saving up for bigger apartment/car xyz xyz.

Whereas in past even young kids like 10 yo could be employed in factories/farms and help there parents financially

Anonymous

IN

X5ez/M

No.19567

>>19325

That is a problem with pajeet staple food itself. Idk about ither vegcuck (indian) but grandmas tell me that they never got a chance to breathe from cooking entire day. There was no scarcity of food in most household. Its just that all the slop was pajeet food.

>>19325

And ask literally any oldfag how many siblings they were. Most of them were 5-7 siblings.

>And no most people didnt have much land before zamindari system was abolished and land reforms happened

Yeah. Thats what i meant by during early industrialization times. People who went outside to work in cities earned a lot even from factory wages. My own nana was a gareeb as fuck and worked in factories and acquired tons of lands

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19592

>>19567

>That is a problem with pajeet staple food itself.

No. It isnt. Thakurs used to eat lots of meat. Rich brahmins were vegcuck but still ate lentils and lots of dairy. Gareeb jeets otoh (80% of pop back then) ate absolute peasant slop just rice with salt often skipping meals or only eating small portions. This is very different from today. Even mazdoors eat well and dress well today, have smartphones and personal vehicles today. The rate of malnutrition and hunger is lower than in past.

CH

4bTrxN

No.19609

>>19224(OP)

Koreans are the most subhuman asians (look up comfort women, the general love for christianity).

Their only wealth comes from 2 or 3 companies which are controlled by nepo families. That's the only reason why they are "rich".

And yeah, they are a very ugly people. Both spiritually and physically. Their whole lives revolve around looking good and making a good impression.

Their "stars" are just walking ads for plastic surgery.

Their culture is not really existant which is why they have no vitality.

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19628

>>19567

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Trends-in-average-household-size-1901-to-2011-Source-Data-compiled-from-1911-1951_fig7_350841223

You can see family size only peaked during 70s.

Anonymous

IN

X5ez/M

No.19629

>>19592

>Even mazdoors eat well and dress well today, have smartphones and personal vehicles today. The rate of malnutrition and hunger is lower than in past.

Thats just work of industrialization making those luxuries avialable for them. There is always a for of luxury at times. Real wealth is measured by assets and NOW not even a wagie from companies who are considered god tier back then can ever purchase a home in his lifetime. Those majdoors you talk of back then earned enough to feed family of 10 when they went to cities for work. They made sure their kids got better than they got. Meanwhile todays majdor can't make such promises. Their kids are doomed to be majdoor too while owning nothing.

Anonymous

IN

X5ez/M

No.19631

>>19628

I know. Stated Here

>>19274

>No. Industrial revolution actually allowed for more population thus population growth. People could earn more in factories than they could ever have in their farms.

Anonymous

IN

m/jo8C

No.19679

>>19270

>>19274

>>19282

>>19631

I dont get what are you arguing about with me. All i said was that we live in far better times yet koreans arent marrying and reproducing. Life was harder back then yet people got married and reproduced.

>Those majdoors you talk of back then earned enough to feed family of 10 when they went to cities for work.

Lmao. 10? Stop with the exaggeration already. Average family size was 5.5 even at its peak. Then birth control came and halted the growth.

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