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S2gdYz
No.458090
Southies explain this
How did your Dravidian bros end up in Pakistan?
Why did you isolate them?
S2gdYz
No.458094
>>458090(OP)
Operation Dhurandhar
kmCGSn
No.458100
>>458090(OP)
Dravidians were first invaders
Hz7Dce
No.458102
>>458090(OP)
Either dravidian language family once extended upto gujarat and sindh region or there was some sort of migration by sea from south just like migration of sinhalese(indo aryan) language to srilanka.
y/4aE0
No.458104
>>458090(OP)
>How did your Dravidian bros end up in Pakistan?
Dravidans always had the faust in them, at some point they found a nice place while saling the high seas and settled down
uu+nnN
No.458118
>>458090(OP)
there is no such thing as muh dravidian, the word dravid is a sanskrit word, brahui being muh dravidian language is as significant as there being hindi speakers in UK and english speakers in india, are the former britishers or are the later britishers? language is not the same as ethnicity.
Hz7Dce
No.458125
>>458118
Dravid being a sanskrit word or not is irrelevant. Its just a name given to a real language family. In linguistics, dravidian is just a language family not an ethnicity.
>as significant as there being hindi speakers in UK and english speakers in india, are the former britishers or are the later britishers?
Thats the exact point of research. We know english reached india due to british rule but whats the history of brahui? How did it reach that unexpected remote corner? Prior to internet and duolingo, languages could only be carried by migration(small or large).
0kWc7a
No.458561
>>458090(OP)
From what I can gather, they're likely descendants of early dravidian speakers. Their genetics isn't much different from their surrounding region implying either a) a huge amount of time passed and muttification happened or b) They migrated there and managed to subjugate the people there to speak their language like ottomons did for greeks
Second scenario is very unlikely so I'm more inclined to believe the first scenario.
Also consider that Dravidian wasn't confined only to South, it used to be spread throughout all of India. Even in your chart various Dravidian tribes scattered throughout all of India. Dravidian migration happened from North to South, not the reverse.
tRkvIu
No.458564
>>458561
Well if the first scenario is correct then it means proto dravidian was language of a iranN people and southies got their languages from iranN migrants to south and not from AASI and that brahui survived language shift that occurred in their surroundings due to being protected by mountains. Brahui are iranN heavy and have negligible AASI whereas southies have significant iranN which indicates iranN origin of language if your first scenario is indeed correct.
tRkvIu
No.458565
>>458561
>Even in your chart various Dravidian tribes scattered throughout all of India dravidian migration happened from North to South, not the reverse.
How are you sure it wasnt the reverse? It could be that some dravidian speaking tribes migrated from south to north.
SOQ3xK
No.458566
>>458565
waves of migration to india pushed natives further east and south
tRkvIu
No.458571
>>458566
Evidence? Migrations arent unidirectional lol. There isnt some hard and fast rule that it cant happen in opposite direction.
0kWc7a
No.458577
>>458565
That could happen, not unlikely. My point is even if the second migration theory is true, it's not necessary their origins are in South India. It could be one of the many Dravidian tribes scattered throughout North India travelling upwards.
tRkvIu
No.458579
>>458090(OP)
>How did your Dravidian bros end up in Pakistan?
You need to wonder if its the other way round actually. That brahui are the og dravidians and that dravidian family originated there. Southies carry significant iranN and aasi whereas brahui mostly carry iranN and negligible aasi. What if dravidian family originated from iranN speakers and was later introduced in south? It could be that dravidian family was widespread in western india before aryanisation and brahui is merely a remnant survived due to being isolated by mountains.
1Du8Mt
No.458587
>>458579
IVC spoke proto-Dravidian. The Brahui are a relic which gives credence to this theory.
MbthVK
No.458786
>>458587
I wont jump at that conclusion so early. Maybe ivc had multiple languages. Branches of dravidian family were likely once spoken in sindh, gujarat if brahui is indeed a remnant and not a later introgression but there is no evidence of dravidian being spread in northern ivc. Maybe punjab, kashmir had their own now extinct unique language families or they spoke indo aryan if OIT and yajnadevam is correct.
1Du8Mt
No.458811
>>458786
>OIT
Lmao. Didn’t read the rest, merely suggesting that OIT is correct is enough to discredit the rest of what you wrote. OIT is fictional bullshit designed to propagate a fictional worldview.
NJ5hRi
No.458847
>>458811
You are just close minded and dogmatic. Being so hung up on a hyothesis is anti intellectualism.
7yeWTD
No.458934
>>458090(OP)
SOURCE OF AL ZUTT
