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RON6y9
No.542865
>>542854(OP)
Leftoids are seething because they no longer have the monopoly over culture like they used to. That's why Dhurandhar makes them seethe so much. Though I would agree the Bhangi Janata party cocksucking was a little too much in the second one unlike the second one.
dhekoI
No.542876
>>542865
Its a great thing that BJP is destroying the leftist ecosystem.
VUkPPO
No.542877
>>542854(OP)
just when buzz was about to fizzle out dhurandhar rathee releases new PR material - just on weekends.
2000 crores is near desu.
ARFPA8
No.542878
>>542877
VUkPPO
No.542879
>>542865
>agree the Janata party cocksucking was a little too much in the second one unlike the second one.
There's nothing wrong with that considering the state of congressis before 2014 and their sheer hatred against hindus and indians as a whole even now.
J17OoS
No.542881
>>542854(OP)
Is behaving extreme dehati or extreme libergandu a low iq behaviour? Because that's what I see among jhats?
zDdjhC
No.542882
>>542879
I think bjp hates hindus more than congress.
Misleading/Corrupting Hinduism is far worse in practical world than openly opposing Hinduism.
VUkPPO
No.542886
>>542882
BJP is required at bare minimum. They can be bullied for hindu causes. In no reality is congress better for hindus than bjp - they are don't even pretend to care about hindus.
Most importantly, hindu causes like free the temples should be pushed separately obviously. And it's only possible through government likes of BJP.
J17OoS
No.542887
>>542882
Khangress is straight away terrorist
VUkPPO
No.542889
>>542881
low iq among 'jaats' is obvious propaganda. they are smart people.
rathee's father is actually harsh mander if you care enough. he was visibly agitated when that yadav dude referenced his name.
zDdjhC
No.542891
>>542887
Internal rot is worse than external bloodsworn enemies.
Nation means NOTHING to me.
Religion is EVERYTHING to me.
VUkPPO
No.542898
There's bigger non religious reason to support bjp. The causes for hindus should be carried separately. The recent UGC fiasco only shows that yes it's possible.
BJP as a whole is important for nation building. They can contain irritants, keep their growth in check.
It's like bjp is important for creating the bed or environment where all hindu or hindu adjacent ideologies can prosper. I do not expect BJP to be active facilitator of them - nor i want them to be.
Power is foremost importance, the second congress comes in power they will annihilate every institution. And they are just incompetent as a whole - i am not even talking religiously. People don't understand the very importance of being in power.
Congress had 60 years, the influence they carried with 49 meagre seats was more than bjp despite it being in power. This is what power does.
BJP is a medium for greater national mission.
>>542891
Pursue religious movements separately instead of sabotaging the RW movement which directly harms hindus as a whole, also you are not a religious zealot so why even pretend to be one.
And rashtra is the core entity to the hinduism, as is the people and dharma.
GHNi0q
No.542902
>>542898
Honestly I think the ugc thing was just pure ragebait gor gc but lollipop for others. They'll never implement it. (Hopefully I'm right)
zDdjhC
No.542908
>>542898
I am not a "Religious Zealot" in a blunt low-iq sense like ISIS, Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal, Bible Bashers etc.
I only see BJP as a force of destruction of traditional Hinduism. They are streamlining Hinduism with Abrahmic religions for masses like Christianity and Islam. Their ideal version of Hinduism is Roman Catholicism with Indian aesthetics.
PytJ5z
No.542909
Can someone tell me why BJP is obsessed with liberating dalits and women?
For dalits, its understandable that other parties will take away their votes. They can act like saviour but do nothing.
What's with women? They know that more liberal women will never support hindurashtra. And its overall bad for hindus cuz low TFR, high ICM & IRM, etc.
VUkPPO
No.542910
>>542902
Easiest explanation is likely that it was linked to wb elections at best. They knew it was going to struck down by courts.
Intended or unintended but is broke the patience of GCs which was a good thing imho, the pushback was important from the community. It's like how batteries work.
This pushback by GC would go on to actually become a social media dominant consensus eventually - it's the hope - to have massive pushback against the ideas like JAUH, or eventually gibsmaxxing. None of that is sustainable long term idea.
At bare minimum my understanding is that these are just sideshow politics - for time being. Pushback is good either way.
PytJ5z
No.542911
zDdjhC
No.542916
>>542911
Feminism is not anti-hindu at its core. Its not even that deep to harm hinduism.
zDdjhC
No.542917
>>542911
Also I think a man wrote that to take a jibe.
PytJ5z
No.542920
>>542916
I know, but mullahs and chamars are using it against us.
They act all liberal and feminist to trap the hindu women, while keeping their women in purdah.
Feminist spaces are all anti hindu, and at the same time cry about islamophobia and dalit rights.
zDdjhC
No.542923
>>542920
Produce more women if you are so fearful about losing them.
Nigg@s be like: I will have a single child and that too a girl and place my entire bets on her.
GHNi0q
No.542925
>>542916
Tu rehne de bhai, most indian feminists at their core are anti hindu.
GHNi0q
No.542931
>>542909
Probably some raand from bhu who isn't from banaras did it.
PytJ5z
No.542934
>>542923
Tell this to hindu millennials. They think their dotters doing randipana is liberation.
One girl marrying outside group doesn't mean we lost only one woman, it means that entire family got cucked. They may have hindu name but they are not one of us anymore.
And thing gets worse when some upper class girl do it.
PytJ5z
No.542935
>>542931
Could be some k2wa or chamar writing it. But randis are not any different.
Legit saw hundreds of instarandis supporting this.
zDdjhC
No.542937
GHNi0q
No.542938
>>542934
And their son/dotter will still grow up like a mulla/mulli to hate kaafirs.
GHNi0q
No.542940
>>542935
No k2a in banaras would dare to do this, its sone librandi who studies in bhu and I can bet on it.
NVGTs+
No.542943
>>542937
Sindhi family doing kanyadaan of their randi influencer dotter to mullah family.
VUkPPO
No.542945
>>542908
the very first point that you don't care much about nation state on a discuss pertaining to nation makes any further discussion moot.
rest 'traditional hinduism', "bjp's version of hinduism" are just tropes desu.
bjp's role become complex because it has to handle a nation modern republic, you can't expect them to run it on manusmriti - that doesn't mean they are anti-traditional hinduism.
>>542909
Nothing wrong in catering to the depressed communities. BJP has always been urban party, leftists were filled with dehatis. It's core base doesn't want sharia for women. Also you are talking about leftists, they are beyond religion and they are driven more by ideology - though when it comes to abrahamics the situation changes.
Hindutva is not going to get you a trad central india, if you want trad society create a third party and push the overtone window.
People have no idea how right the overtone window has shifted now.
NVGTs+
No.542946
>>542938
Identity matters.
If you have minority name and surname, then for sure you will support them. Even if the randi maa acts all bhaktin after marriage, his son will be muslim.
gn5t7q
No.542947
NVGTs+
No.542949
>>542940
This month only mullahs did iftar party on ganga.
And k2was love falseflagging.
Can be anyone, randi or k2wa
VUkPPO
No.542951
zDdjhC
No.542956
>>542949
Check video of latest thread on /rta/.
gn5t7q
No.542957
>>542951
right kek
zDdjhC
No.542973
>>542947
His ubermensch son is growing up. You better be careful about your choice of words. Everything stays on internet forever.
KFBfCG
No.542977
>>542973
But how will he cure his baap's nit da randi rona?
GHNi0q
No.542983
>>542973
His son will grow up to be a faggot
ZZxiKs
No.542984
VUkPPO
No.542988
>>542952
>. I only want them to stop interfering with Hindu religion.
Currently hindus are limited to at best their c-ste level community. They bicker between each other and myopic low cunning schemes. There's no greater vision in the society or its leaders for country as a whole - again for me India and our people's well being and our future matters.
There's no major hindu institution or hindu causes which resonates with the society as a whole. Hindu institutions are inherently not free from republic control which is bad. If you want republic or politicians to stop interfering then first get hindu institutions out of control of the republic.
And since there's no sight for it, having BJP is more beneficial, from Ayodhya to Varanasi to Mahakumbh, to char dham projects and in general the push for dharmic ideas as a whole is more than what hindus has been doing so under congress.
BJP being seen as 'less hindu' is good which is nice to see, it only shows increase in the consciousness of hindus. But it's useless if it results in entire movement pulverizing and only thing remains is clueless and overtly anti hindu congressis coming in power. And no an anti-hindu, anti-indian party in central government is more harmful than bjp ever will be.
All of it may seem more 'nationalist' than 'religious' but sub sub sub clan kanging will not help if there's no great conscious identity and people being on neck of each other.
The reason i care about the identity of 'dharmic' faiths is because only when we feel like that we are extension of this society, belonging to it we can work for the betterment as a whole. BJP simply echoes this idea better than anything. Congress represents an ideology which views entire society, itself in contempt and loathes it. The sub sub sub clan kangers find congress more comfy cuz they view rest of the society with contempt apart from one small chunk. An overlap of ugly bunch. They are simply unfit to rule.
zDdjhC
No.542997
>>542988
>There's no greater vision in the society or its leaders for country as a whole - again for me India and our people's well being and our future matters.
No we have dharm gurus. Many powerful people get influenced by them. Read Rajiv Malhotra's Unbreaking India. There are UC Hindus working in Wall Street who follow the dharm gurus.
RSS on the other hand is installing fake dharm gurus.
Jains get influenced by their Gurus. Sikhs get influenced by their Gurus.
BJP is just congress but worse since it corrupts Hindus internally.
tvInIG
No.543002
>>542945
Yeah they are free to liberate oppressed depressed women. But they literally promote randipana in the name of freedom.
Feminist spaces are controlled by leftists, and leftists love islam. They need to ensure that feminists have real hate for islam or else they are just feeding another enemy for hinduism.
When one group is liberal and other is conservative, it's for sure that more liberal women will be taken by conservative group. How hard it is to understand?
Then they cry about love jihad endlessly.
Either start 'liberating' muslim women or stop doing this randirona.
tvInIG
No.543006
>>542956
How is it relevant here?
I know that core ideology of BJP and RSS is nationalism, they know that indian state can't exist without hindus and hence they use hindu.
s6/Fbt
No.543007
>>542854(OP)
we have unironic dhruv tatti watchers here 
VUkPPO
No.543016
>>542997
You don't seem to get it, anecdotal events and sparse success mean nothing.
Religion's purpose goes beyond individuals. I do not discount the wisdom of gurus. What i am saying is that without any institutions, without temples in control their influence, the effect of their philosophy is nothingburger.
What is the point of having high end of the culture if it has 90% of the society going through the worst lowest culture possible.
BJP is required simply cuz of that 90% of the society and i am being generous here.
Congress is just apathetic, evil as a whole. It's termite which has no care for the higher culture at all, it doesn't even understand our society at all. It views itself disconnected from it.
We will never come to an agreement since as I mentioned, there's nationalist and religious outcome where i see hinduism high culture ideas just not limited to 1% but it pervading and improving our society as a whole and changing outlook of the 90% tail. You are content with 1% while entire society is decaying.
I see bjp, hinduism as a medium which inherently brings up this 'belonging to society - extension of it - kinship maybe'. None of that is possible with likes of congress.
BJP is better in every sense against congress this is not even a debate, i am not even interested in contesting this viewpoint - since those who disagree are akin to blind.
zDdjhC
No.543020
>>543006
They are scapegoating hindus for their western concept of nationalism.
VUkPPO
No.543028
>>543020
rashtra predates nationalism whether you agree or not we operate within the concepts of the nation-states. without this nation states the people on this land will get annihilated. this is of course fundamental belief - it's true backed on improvements and success of this nation as a whole.
>>543002
i honestly don't know what you mean by 'randipana' yaar anon.
of course bjp does so - cuz - women are easier to woo for politicsetc. in case of backward communities or 'minority' communities. sometimes they go too far. that's all.
EjvMUD
No.543029
>>542854(OP)
Funny how they never cried so much about the movies which humanized Pak and demonized our guys, but now that a movie is telling the reality of cockroach media and politics they are chimping out, clearly they are afraid people will wake up. Jaago nation
EjvMUD
No.543031
>>543006
Core ideology of BJP is to use Lindu anger towards Congress to push its own opportunist goals so its members can send their daughters to be fucked by Pakis abroad.
zDdjhC
No.543032
>>543016
>What is the point of having high end of the culture if it has 90% of the society going through the worst lowest culture possible.
That's what you dont get. In all cultures across the word throught human history, eras are defined by elites who are made up of individuals, not the masses.
Quality >> Quantity.
Hinduism at its core was never meant to be a religion of the masses. Even within hinduism its only the small minority which is responsible for all the greatest feats achieved, thats why all top level scholars across all fields in hindu history were brahmins.
You are psyoped very deeply by Christianity and their concepts of equality among all.
Read some philosophy.
zDdjhC
No.543044
>>543028
>without this nation states the people on this land will get annihilated
Tell this to jews, they have faced multiple events of atrocities throught their history and yet they manage to fluorish.
Being a non-brahmin, you are simply operation on a medioocre level. You lack the spirit of arya saptarishis.
zDdjhC
No.543052
Just longing to live easy lives by lining your pockets simply won't cut it.
You will have to build your villages near the mouth of active volcanoes.
+089nU
No.543066
>>542854(OP)
I have no problem with Dhurandhar. But why can't India make a spy movie with no song & dance. It seems like jeets are addicted to masala. Both in their food and movies. Bollywood should make a proper serious spy movie like bridge of spies or Munich. Munich is the best spy movie ever made. But then again, jeet RAW hasn't really pulled of any kino operations like the Jewish Mossad. So they have to fall back on fictional masala to make good spy movies.
zDdjhC
No.543072
>>543066
Song & dance is what seperates bollywood from other cinemas.
I don't think its a huge problem.
Yeah they should make more deeply depressing songs and dances.
RirdgX
No.543078
>>543028
Just see how liberal India is under supposedly Hindutwavadi government.
VUkPPO
No.543079
>>543032
>In all cultures across the word throught human history, eras are defined by elites .
Yes pretty much said and shared all the time.
But there's a issue with that thinking is that higher culture doesn't influence normies at all.
When i say 90% of the people are tail end, it was focused on the fact the higher culture should flow to the masses and influence their thought process - because currently it's just bad situation overall the society is decaying. This should happen and it has been happening for centuries. There will always be 1% of the guys doing the most but their ideas should flow and influence is where i am at.
Now coming to institutions, an example is how independent temples would most likely be capable of building public park, moral influence through those will increase, parks, lakes, so on. Society becomes healthier with proper institutions.
Your viewpoint is just making case against yourself, it only shows how BJP's approach is more practical.
RirdgX
No.543081
>>543078
They rehabilitates randis because they were 'trapped'.
Randis will have mahakal and krishna in their bio or story and will be dating a mullah. Like that brahmin girl shared here yesterday.
> But how is BJP responsible for it
They promote liberalization
RirdgX
No.543086
>>543020
They can do whatever they want. I don't care about hinduism.
But they use us hindus. They know that no minority will be loyal to the Nation, but still want to appease them.
They have one task of creating a strong hindu identity and they are failing in that too.
VUkPPO
No.543088
>>543079
To add to the existing convo of congress and bjp, congress doesn't even consider it 'higher cultture'. It would willingly anhilate it.
BJP does value it, for whatever capacity they can they have only provided more seeding ground for the higher culture ideas.
At the end i am more interested in the 90% of the society than 1%. You can build upon the existing ideas which are dharmic or import shallow foreign ideology like communism. Since we have heads up with this regard, build upon the existing dharmic framework, let the higher culture influence the normies and use it to build the nation. This is where role of BJP is.
For those who are more concerned with preservation of 1% they can even then do so.
zDdjhC
No.543100
>>543079
>But there's a issue with that thinking is that higher culture doesn't influence normies at all.
Didn't mean that.
>because currently it's just bad situation overall the society is decaying
Normies are still getting influenced by higher culture. Its just that forces like BJP-RSS are brainwashing notmies normies to believe that their version of "higher culture" (which in reality is merely a decadent form of 19th century protestant zealotry repacked with Hindu aesthetics and thus the progressive pathway that it follows similar to the lgbtq friendly episcopal churches of America) is the true one while disconnecting them with the true form of traditional hinduism by falsely marking at as regressive in a western sense which is complete bullshit.
zDdjhC
No.543103
>>543100
*brainwashing normies
VUkPPO
No.543114
>>543100
>Normies are still getting influenced by higher culture.
As pointed earlier entire influence or effect of that are very limited and not visible, as simple as our apathy towards our society our environment as a whole shows it. It will only improve if hindus control of institutions is back to them - temples etc.
>BJP - RSS
without mentioning on what topics i cannot comment here. but hindutva simply fills the gap left by the lack of hindu institutions - you will call it bjp corruption i see it as failure of the existing institutions that a political party had to play the role - it's not 100% ideal but it is what it is. at the end bjp has done more in contribution to the hindu causes. all in all hindutva is more compatible to the modern indian society as a whole. contrary to whatever congress is.
obviously situation can be much better when hindus get back control of their temples etc. and their institutions - that's a parallel fight. it should be done separately.
if we achieve that hindus becoming self sufficient as a community, maybe it would be ideal time to separate the religion from state politics and we carry on directly with the nation building. until then this is the reality.
now that discussion has become cyclic i am out. again there's difference in fundamental belief as stated here >>543016 due to which we will never have an agreement.
VUkPPO
No.543119
a very simple example of failure of traditional institutions due to the control over them by republic is average experience of a hindu in any state managed temple - it's apathetic it will make you irreligious. this is also the very reason i want state to be kicked out of control from hindu bodies.
and ig there should be no debate on the failure of traditional institutions in guiding our society result is how we are today.
and at the end, traditional religion can't be used as an excuse to take us back to the time capsule and warrant events which we have little understanding and only pushing for the sake of our own mutated beliefs.
rest we shall see. again all of this is only possible because a hindu belief adjacent party is in power.
congress is alien entity. >>543114
bye desu 
zDdjhC
No.543187
>>543114
>>543119
You are not wrong and you don't even contradict me in principles.
I'd say the faithful ones will stick to traditional institutions nevertheless. And the normies will have themselves lead by inspirations of contemporary era which changes every century.
But one thing I could say for sure that the Hindu normies will never be able to create immortal legacies which emerge out of Hindu sphere, however they may succeed to create immortal legacies which are rooted in western judeo-christian sphere.
76nihs
No.543197
>>543119
make sense
congress and leftist are enemies of Hindus they were even trying hard to portray hindu terror angle to rescue mullas from criticism
xY8Fsu
No.543236
>>542877
2000cr was inevitable, the movie crossed 1000cr in first week and second sunday is yet to come.
xY8Fsu
No.543238
>>543066
Jews are driven by and entirely different morality, they are not chuddha ka desh pajeet bhangis
vboHJO
No.543260
>>542879
I'm talking about the demonetisation whitewashing in the movie. It's obviously a move aimed at destroying the black money cash reserves of Congress, not something motivated by nationalism or hindutva like the movie portrayed.
b3hsr7
No.543266
Anyone noticed how they changed the last speech of Atiq Ahmad in the movie ?
So that normies aren't reminded of the fact that his right hand man Guddu Muslim and his wife are still absconding.
Peak bhaktpajeetry..
vboHJO
No.543269
>>543197
>future indian pm
Reminds me that old tranime I watched Hilary Clinton was shown as the future president of US.
9IOWdt
No.543274
>>543266
Yaar whatever you say, but BJP is atleast trying to destroy the UP muslim mafia network.
b3hsr7
No.543282
>>543274
Why couldn't the hindus do it themselves ?
Are hindus so weak that they require state to save them from muslims despite being in majority ? At the end does it make Hindus more powerful or more weaker ?
b3hsr7
No.543288
>>543282
No muslim mafias emerged in west UP because the hindu castus here are not docile buckbroken like east UP hindus and Mumbai hindus.
b3hsr7
No.543291
xESR5V
No.543294
>>543282
Yeah cuz MOST hindus are coward vegcucks, and they are the first one to stand against any high T hindu. They can only target other hindus.
xESR5V
No.543296
>>543288
I read about the Meerut ex MP, who runs a beef factory. West UP is better than East, but mullahs will be mullahs.
