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Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76112

Vote for timer. This is to stop the necrobumper.

https://strawpoll.com/PbZqb1RpWyN

Anonymous

IN

bmqiqO

No.76116

>>76112(OP)

No timer period. Necrobumbing isn't even a problem.

Anonymous

IN

YJj+0q

No.76129

>>76116

>Necrobumbing isn't even a problem

Because you are the one doing it

Anonymous

LD

m8Ey3O

No.76130

>>76116

bilkul sahi

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76131

>>76116

>>76130

>T. Necrobumper

Anonymous

IN

bmqiqO

No.76135

>>76129

>>76131

Yaar dumb (by the way I am a nigger)s not everyone is a necrobumper.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76151

>>76112(OP)

With that pic i thought this post was by the necrobumper.

Thanks for the thread sirs. Based on our conversation with esteemed members of bhach in the thread >>>/b/75921

We had few of the solutions to prevent necrobumpers or spammers,

1. Easiest Option: Cooldown

It's very effective that we know of, easy for mods and boards remain comfy. We are willing to reduce the timer down to minimum of 30 minutes if anons agree.

Problem: It affects new users, especially those who for some reason can't have a separate browser and instead want incognito.

2. Mix of Flood Prevention and Captcha Limitations

This means we can effectively reduce total number of posts by a given user in a certain time period. Which means like as minimum as 7 replies in 15 mins, 25 replies in 50 minutes etc. etc.

Apart from this, obviously not enough, would require -

>increase in captcha length - say 6 to 8.

>Increase in captcha timer duration - currently it's 5seconds, next at bare minimum of 15 seconds

Is this effective prevention? Not as much as cooldown but can reduce to an extent - though bump would happen still.

Problem: Max Experience worse for every poster - punishes everyone. Awful in many ways.

3. Middle Path - hard limitations on new users but no cooldown

This in theory can be effective which means for new users we will have

>captcha length of 7 at minimum

>captcha duration of 30 seconds at minimum

>posts per hour would be like 6 or 7

>threads per hour would be like 1

After say 4hrs limitations will be reduced, after 12hrs they will be reduced to pretty normal. Plus point is no old poster will be punished. It will be very effective yes.

Problem: I need few days to work this through - which means for few days (3 days max) we will have a strong cooldown of 30 minutes.

That's all.

Anonymous

RJ

q3ReFi

No.76158

>>76151

>ad banners

add into the middle path

farm this necrobumpers clicks and spammers clicks

Anonymous

IN

6A8Qb/

No.76160

>>76131

shut the fuck up yaar, 30 minutes cooldown on a board with 20 users lol. 4chan has like tens of thousands of users and had a 15 min cooldown. We don't need anything more than 5 minutes if we even need that in the first place.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76165

>>76158

Kek...only if.

Anonymous

IN

YJj+0q

No.76167

He's back at it again

Anonymous

IN

6A8Qb/

No.76176

>>76167

Yeah a cooldown isnt going to stop him, who would've thought? He is on this website all day. He is already past the 30 minute mark.

Anonymous

LD

m8Ey3O

No.76179

>>76151

Pyaari tum kaha chali gayi... 😭

>>76160

Bilkul sahi

Anonymous

IN

YJj+0q

No.76180

>>76176

Banning him this time will

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76197

>>76151

30 minutes isn't even that long, if normal users who turn their router on and off every night then they can just wait for half an hour.

Middle path seems best to me, I think 30 min timer is best till then

Anonymous

IN

6A8Qb/

No.76210

>>76197

but what's the point when it literally doesn't work? the necrobumper is still here posting without any problems.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76225

>>76176

>>76167

Cooldown earlier was for 15 mins. He created 4 separate instances all detected and banned.

That's one necrobumper. Other one was separate and has been dealt with too.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76231

>>76210

Because he has few instances which were from before that time. Unironically you are batting for longer cooldown sirs.

Let's have this temporary and we will go with the middlepath with no cooldown but restrictions on the new users.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76234

>>76160

4chan literally fingerprints the devices, uses sesisons, IPs to maintain ban throughout.

Second a slower board is easy to disrupt by spammers, usually active boards will result in eventually active threads coming on top - here it's not the case so spammer threads get bumped to the top.

ARYA

5zPjDP

No.76235

increase cooldown to 12hours gayaush >>76225

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76243

>>76235

For now it's been pushed to 1hr.

Necrobumper, other than Duck's retardation, has been banned, all his instances. Let's see now sirs.

Anonymous

IN

YJj+0q

No.76246

>>76243

Duck is part of necrobumling?

Duck

IN

1g+q5X

No.76248

>>76246

Nahi yaar

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76251

>>76246

he tried to aid them in the past, though there are not enough data on that - other than if you accept his own admission in the other thread - that he is a negrobumper.

ARYA

5zPjDP

No.76252

>>76243

ever since the cooldown has been removed the board has become less comfy to the week before. faggots have started making ragebaits galore and shitting up whatever they please

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76253

>>76252

Working on the middle path sirs. In the meantime it should be slightly better currently.

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76256

>>76252

>ragebaits

We really need to talk about this. The ragebaits are really very low effort. And anons write paragraph in response and give 1 gazillion (You)s to the baiters. The best way to deal with them is to not reply.

Anonymous

IN

we0rsu

No.76257

>>76246

He didn't get his bade chuche wali pyaari so he takes out his frustration by Sandas and Necrobumping

Duck

IN

1g+q5X

No.76258

>>76251

Mazak kar raha tha sirs, maybe stop looking at fingerprint of every user in backend.

I never aided any necrobumper, I just gave a non-virgin cookie id so normal people could post.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76260

>>76258

>I never aided any necrobumper, I just gave a non-virgin cookie id so normal people could post.

One thing i have learned from this drama is to keep records of spams - in case someone questions the actions. I do not have any issue with you per se but don't lie, pic related.

>Mazak kar raha tha sirs, maybe stop looking at fingerprint of every user in backend.

I have to work a bit - to prevent issues like these. I can't without looking through the patterns into what is happening. There's not much information than usual which was required in your case.

Anonymous

IN

we0rsu

No.76261

>>76256

I feel like complete retardation of Bhach has happened, anons didn't bite baits earlier, so even when board was less active it was comfy

now anons have started biting baits due to complete dopamine cravings and retardation, so the baiters also get incentives and their cravings for (You)s also increase so they make more baits, this has caused even normal posters like Duck and others to start necrobumping and doing other low level activities

Both sides are turning retarded, really fast

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76262

>>76257

kek

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76263

>>76261

>feel like complete retardation of Bhach has happened, anons didn't bite baits earlier, so even when board was less active it was comfy

This this this.

I saw the most retàrded of baits yesterday and anons falling for them it was like

>Total hindpooo death karangay this that

Imagine falling for this by a guy with up flag. I don't see anything other than retardation.

Duck

IN

1g+q5X

No.76265

>>76260

Maybe I did not take that seriously, but yeah I did post that.

However without context this looks bad,

this was during the 12 hours cooldown period of this site.

And I just shared a singular uid that would have taken you 2 seconds to ban anyways. But yeah, maybe I did aid in some spamming by sharing that.

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76266

>>76260

Its not just duck, kek. The other mod was also baited into revealing info about threads not getting deleted after reply.

Everyone who talks with mod is just baiting. Just like the samefagger.

Anonymous

IN

6A8Qb/

No.76267

>>76263

Then delete the posts if you see someone ruining the decorum of your website. What the fuck are you even here for?

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76268

>>76265

yeah i get it, though overall i saw three instances by you

>2 for these - different threads

>1 when you shared your credentials - account was already banned so ig no action was taken against you for that.

anyway nvm.

>>76266

absolute state desu.

i think one mod shared it earlier.

I was not available for moderation yesterday since at all cost i wanted new update out - it was occupying my mind space and i had one issue at office which had literally me working late 1am in the night - just when i pushed the update i see mods and anons everyone is cribbing and painted me villain.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76270

>>76267

Well there were certain limitations on mods part. But they do help out a lot sirs. Now they should be more capable in their actions after new updates.

Anonymous

IN

VE+4bB

No.76271

>>76267

So that you can spam muh censorship then right

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76273

>>76271

kek

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76274

>>76267

If we delete posts which are apparently baits 90% of anons will accuse us of censorship.

Yll even fell for the samefagger and started abusing us even when I was just removing triangle spams.

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76276

>>76268

>Think one mod shared it earlier

Yeah, but most probably spammer did not know it till yesterday.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76278

>>76276

true

Anonymous

IN

6A8Qb/

No.76283

>>76274

>triangle spams

the triforce? lol. man the moderators themselves need to lurk moar what can you expect from the users.

Anonymous

UN

6RQ46G

No.76287

>>76283

Ik that, but it was the same user who was spamming shit in other threads as well. He was warned to keep his triforce in one thread but he was spamming it under every thread.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76692

>>76112(OP)

7 people voted for 30 mins timer

2 for 4hrs timer

1 for 6hrs and 2hrs respectively

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76717

>>76112(OP)

Not voting. Since dyaush isn't even gonna acknowledge it in the first place.

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76718

>>76717

At the end of the day, the necrobumper is the only one NOT affected.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76724

>>76717

>>76718

literally wrote about it here in detail >>76151

Stop gaslighting.

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76737

>>76151

>instead want incognito.

About 60% of the people here use incognito

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76739

>>76724

How do other imageboards handle spammers? Just ban him.

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76745

>>76151

I have an idea; Have a per user bump limit. Like you can only bump x number of threads within 15 minutes. You can still reply but it will be an autosage, and the thread will not be bumped to the top.

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76746

Like say 5 bumps in 15 minutes. Everything else will just be a reply and not actually bump the thread.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76752

>>76739

>tracking through IPs, Sessions as well as device fingerprinting

>maybe ip ranges, location information too

I don't want to collect this much information at all. IP range limitation won't work. Location info too.

>also flood detection - based on number of posts per hour, or in a given time, media hash checks etc.

We already have flood detection to a limit.

Some of the things like ip range, location information and device fingerprinting is out of the question.

That leaves us to work with IP, session, flood limits - that is actually more than enough that we need. Before the new things are implemented i need a temporary solution - hence session thing for just few days.

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76753

>>76746

Not a bad idea desu, in theory it can be done - let me look into it sirs. Thanks.

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76756

>>76753

Also, their should be NO new user timer. If we get a larger userbase + my idea being implemented, the necrobumper would barely make an effect.

drake

!+QaDwZR0G+lil+A

UN

94Oint

No.76765

>>76756

yeah the new user thing is retarded methinks

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76769

>>76756

>>76765

sou desu

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76771

>>76769

What?

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76772

>>76771

bad japanese

but meant - sure.

UN

8Ztg2w

No.76776

>>76772

YWNBAJ

Anonymous

ROJR

PL7kzc

No.76778

>>76776

brootal

drake

!+QaDwZR0G+lil+A

UN

94Oint

No.76781

>>76778

its ok we still love u

Anonymous

IN

UZmBz2

No.76794

>>76781

Chakkachan.com

drake

!+QaDwZR0G+lil+A

UN

94Oint

No.76798

>>76794

me_irl