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Anonymous

IN

YWe8Hp

No.4857

Bhimsmriti is our guide, not Manusmriti, we are Ambedkarite: Kovind recalls Atal

Modiji is the emperor Constantine of this era. RSS the new church and Ambedkar is the new Christ.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/bhimsmriti-is-our-guide-not-manusmriti-we-are-ambedkarite-kovind-recalls-atal-10284687/

Anonymous

IN

YWe8Hp

No.4858

>>4857(OP)

What was once being quoted in hushed tones is now being said openly. This is a harbinger of the politics of the next decade.

Anonymous

IN

xpzy0l

No.4859

>>4857(OP)

Isse accha toh convert hi ho jaye lmao

Anonymous

IN

YWe8Hp

No.4860

>>4859

Ambedkar was a very minor actor in the grand scheme, his deitification is a ploy by RSS

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4861

>>4860

>Ambedkar was a very minor actor

Tha toh fir bhi randi ka pilla hi na? I hate that sub human, look at this picture, the dog looks like the most evolved creature in this entire image. That aside, this isn't not about bhimtal's prophet, it is about the entire subhuman dysgenic group, they should have been wiped out long ago.

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4862

>“I want to mention a Dalit Sangam rally on the Red Fort premises in 2001. I was president of the Scheduled Caste Morcha of the BJP at that time and Atal Bihari Vajpayee was Prime Minister. Many people used to indulge in false propaganda that the Sangh Parivar and Atalji were anti-Dalit. Atalji, while addressing the rally, said that our government is there for the welfare of Dalits, OBCs and the poor.”

>“Hamari sarkar Manusmriti ke aadhaar par nahin balki Bhimsmriti ke aadhaar par kaam karegi. Bhimsmriti arthaat Bharat ka samvidhan. Unhone ye bhi kaha tha ki hum Bhimwadi hain arthaat Ambedkarwadi hain (Our government will function on the basis of Bhimsmriti rather than Manusmriti. Bhimsmriti means the Indian Constitution. He also said that we are Bhimwadi, meaning Ambedkarite),” he said.

>“That speech of Atalji had a historic role in removing the misgivings in this section of society that were a result of false propaganda against the Sangh. The Sangh has been a supporter of social unity and reform,” he said.

>“Two doctors from Nagpur had a great influence on my life – Dr Hedgewar and Dr Ambedkar. Because of the social justice enshrined in Babasaheb’s Constitution, a person from an ordinary social and economic background like me could reach the highest constitutional post. I got a lens to understand society and the nation from the ideas of Dr Hedgewar. My inspiration for public service with a keen sense of national unity and (samajik samrasta) social reconciliation comes from there,”

There's nothing controversial about it, sangh was trying to normalize its relationship and provide blanket of hindutva to the non-dwijas.

But this will be used against bjp by certain section of congressi tards. Media is literally misleading with the title but ig it is what it is.

I already wrote about it yesterday,

>Idea here was this, BJP and Hindutva, Modi, which had become pan India leaders and accommodating every group under the Hindutva / NDA umbrella that was the easiest way to utilize and turn against themselves. Benefit here was that everywhere if BJP is accommodating Biharis, congress or what became I.N.D.I.A bloc could trigger their political groups from other states to hit on BJP. This fight now became a monolithic party versus a very decentralized and rejuvenated political group.

Anonymous

IN

0ovoe3

No.4863

>>4861

Guys on the far left and right literally look like most Indians

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4864

>>4862

>provide blanket of hindutva to the non-dwijas.

Very good, they should have put the chicken pox germs on the blanket and thus kill all the yucky people >:D ehehehe

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4865

>>4862

So here's the deal, this is completely nothingburger. But the twisted headline, nobody is gonna read the article anyway, will be used to ragebait the UC hindus - in turn they will rage and start badmouthing bjp, obcs, sc/st.

Then another section of congressis who are into the non-dwjias group will use the congressi tards as an example to ragebait non-dwijas - that see this is what bjp wants for you.

Congress and opposition wants to radicalize hindus against each other using every fault line.

Ragebait pro maxxx...

i am just a messenger though. If hindus are stupid enough to fall for this then maybe we deserve the apathy.

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4866

>>4863

No shit? Guess which demographic now makes the bulk of india, moron. It's like a retard saying how majority of Detroit citizens look like negroes, because they ARE Negroes dumbass.

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4867

>>4861

TIL that babasaheb had a pet dog. Nice.

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4868

>>4866

>Guess which demographic now makes the bulk of india, moron

sc/st combined population is almost same as that of UCs.

Anonymous

GJ

giLdnw

No.4869

>>4860

i agree but i don't understand why. why would you shoot yourself in foot like that? what even is the end game here?

Bengali Rad

HR

VMENtf

No.4870

>>4863

Get out of your dravidian pond

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4871

>>4865

Uniting Dwija is a meme though, because that on its own is failing to include non Dwija Savarna in the process. The core reason why it is so easy to rage bait UC's is strictly due to recent events on online spaces with how LC's have been going on to behave.

Anonymous

IN

YWe8Hp

No.4872

>>4869

His deification is a result of a larger Sangh project from the 90s to break the Congress stronghold.

Anonymous

IN

O7Qkga

No.4873

>>4861

No matter how rich dalit gets, he cant change his subhumans genes

Sewer cleaners can never be human

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4874

>>4867

I actually didn't know that either kekek.

>>4868

Yeah, the real majority is actually of OBC, my issue is the same though, UC is a meme, and you divide it further, then each Varna becomes even smaller fragment, Avarnia kind of includes every one other than Savarna

>>4869

Their is nothing here, people want to think their is some agenda, but their simply isn't because their is nothing to gain from it. It's just the same old retardation that inbréds like pain bringer believe due to lack of a retards ability to add two and two together.

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4876

>>4870

I have said this before, I will say this again, the conflation of Dravida with Avarnia is retarded and the fast people get rid of it the better it is. Not to mention Dravidans were based for keeping the people in check for many years till periyar decided to be a faggot.

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4877

>>4872

>larger Sangh project from the 90s to break the Congress stronghold

Good, doesn't mean Congress is suddenly good, ayega toh BJP hi. Dwijas simply need to be self aware about radicalised Bhimtals, BJP or khang winning makes close to no different on the well being of Dwijas as much as it does for growth of region and nation as whole.

The sanghi being chamar lovers is a meme that is ran into dust, and only utter fucktards keep on repeating it.

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4878

>>4871

From UC to LC, all the elites are very self serving sooner the people realize the better.

This entire cycle is ragebait where atleast the primary target is to demoralize the UC hindus because UC hindus were one of the major backers of BJP.

The demoralized UC hindus some of which who are fickle will be used by opposition to radicalize the non-UCs into same state of 'existential crisis' where what we will see is

>demoralize UCs not voting for BJP some of them

>some of the angry UCs will vote against BJP

>radicalized psyops non-UCs will block any re-rapprochement of BJP towards them and might as well consolidate towards non-BJP party

this is the playbook.

Both UCs and LCs are gonna loose hard here. It will be another lost 10 years before they realize what they have done.

Anonymous

ARYA

4H36Kb

No.4880

>>4878

>all the elites are very self serving sooner the people realize the better.

This, any community keeps itself safe by being aware on an individual level, no elite will come out of its way to do shit. The reason the whole Sanghi are Anti Dwija meme doesn't work is because UC actively mock and laugh it all off, but also, UC's know what a problem dalit/pro mahar party looks like. BJP is not remotely close to it.

The moment two groups are able to find out any common ground, is when inbreds start to lose it. Fragmenting hindu groups is easy way to handle this.

Regardless, I still do hold a large majority of SC groups that are aligned with the online Bhimtals in contempt, but anyone who thinks a political party is involved in a bias or an anti Dwija theory is simply too retarded to realise how retarded he is.

It's like a poorly done cope by some former UC Dwija who converts, and then is considered even lower Chamars by us UC's, and treated even far worse in the process.

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4881

>>4880

>This, any community keeps itself safe by being aware on an individual level, no elite will come out of its way to do shit. The reason the whole Sanghi are Anti Dwija meme doesn't work is because UC actively mock and laugh it all off, but also, UC's know what a problem dalit/pro mahar party looks like. BJP is not remotely close to it.

Just want to add to it, that if you are an UC, you should forget everything and grind hard and make something better for yourself.

And yes if you think that country is not helpng you escape - but first and foremost forget this politics and achieve something on personal level.

We are going through great psyops cycle.

Father Painbringer

IN

xTYFoI

No.4882

Abb mein is jain randi ke ulterior motives expose karne lagunga ko iska abbo pilla mujhe ban kar dega

Anonymous

IN

O7Qkga

No.4883

>>4882

Karde share

Father Painbringer

IN

xTYFoI

No.4884

>>4883

Hmm /pol/ thread hai, karta hu.

Father Painbringer

IN

eT90/X

No.4886

>>4860

Ambedkar is a symbol, a marker of the larger socio-political changes taking place in Hindu society under the onslaught of christian morality.

Father Painbringer

IN

eT90/X

No.4887

>>4861

why do u hate ambedkar ? He didn't hated upper caste. He literally married a Brahmin.

Anonymous

IN

WnZeeU

No.4888

>>4887

correction, his wife was from Kabir Panthi caste, not brahmin

Father Painbringer

IN

eT90/X

No.4890

>>4888

>Dr. B.R. Ambedkar's second wife, Dr. Savita Ambedkar (born Sharada Kabir), was from a Saraswat Brahmin family. She was a doctor and social activist who married Dr. Ambedkar in 1948, after his first wife, Ramabai Ambedkar, passed away

Anonymous

IN

WnZeeU

No.4891

>>4890

Neither of Ambedkar's wives were Brahmins. His second wife was a Kabirpanthi Mahar only. Her surname was Kabir. She wasn't a Saraswat Brahmin. No Saraswat Brahmin in Maharashtra or Goa has the surname "Kabir".

Father Painbringer

IN

vMP0cf

No.4892

>>4874

One question haggu,

Given Two different populations, say one of Pakistan and other of Indonesia. Let us assume for a moment that both are complete non-religious and practice their tribal religions.

Now consider that the gods have given you a magical wish to make, they ask you, "Haggu, our son, we grant you a wish to civilize one of these populations through the Dharma of us Aryas. Indra's horse Uchchaihshravas shall go forth in one of these direction and his army (of which you are one of the Lieutenant General) will follow the Uchchaihshravas to conquer the people of that land. The other remaining land will be subjected to the wrath of conflagarations by Lord Agni. Now Haggu we (the Arya gods) ask you to decide that which one of these populations along with its people do you want to conquer and assimilate in your congregation of Vedic Arya tribes ?"

Now which one will you choose haggu ? Think deeply and answer, this is very much related to this thread and the overall worldview of Puri Shankaracharya Nishchalananda Saraswati Ji as well.

Father Painbringer

IN

vMP0cf

No.4893

>>4891

its official public knowledge that she was brahmin. Search internet even non-dalit sources tell u the same.

Are u the same person who claims that Chirag Paswan's mother is not a Brahmin ?

Anonymous

IN

TuaFa1

No.4894

>>4893

It might actually be the illusory truth effect at play. One source claimed she was Brahmin without any proof and possibly with ulterior motives. Over time, that unverified claim kept getting repeated and cited in later writings until people started taking it as fact. I’ve already clarified that no Saraswat Brahmins in Maharashtra/Goa use the Kabir surname.

>Are u the same person who claims that Chirag Paswan's mother is not a Brahmin?

no clue about this.

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4896

>>4882

You were never banned for your political beliefs.

Father Painbringer

IN

vMP0cf

No.4897

>>4894

>no Saraswat Brahmins in Maharashtra/Goa use the Kabir surname

there are millions, I bet you will find many who use maratha and Rajput surnames as well. I've myself seen a chauhan brahmin in delhi. Perhaps his ancetors were related to the court of Prithviraj Chauhan.

Mukesh Ambani's Wife is Brahmin. Ambanis are Vaishyas.

Uddhav Thackeray's wife is Brahmin. Thackeray's are Shudras.

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4898

>>4896

I was banned in the morning after you replied to me in that Royal Enfield thread.

My Azaan thread was also delete without any reasons. I was just praising the spiritual vibes that the sound of Azaan creates in the environment.

Bengali rad

HR

VMENtf

No.4899

>>4898

Time hogaya apni ammi to madarse se pick kar aa, maulana thak gaye honge ab tak

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4900

>>4899

Bengal mei toh khoob masjids hongi bhaijaan ?

Anonymous

ROJR

/ZRniF

No.4901

>>4898

You were not banned for that, people have said worse things.

There was different thread where you creating hindu-muslim bait thread for that you were banned along with same time another Delhi poster i think - he is repeated offender when it comes to caste baits / religion baits / racial baits. Changes flags all the time.

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4902

>>4901

my azaan thread was deleted at the same time when i was banned. I just put my phone to airplane mode and turned the hotspot back on. Luckily my ip changed and i was able to post immediately again.

How do you know that the other baiter is a Delhi poster who is different from me ? I also post from Delhi and I also make many bait threads (but my threads seldom get deleted).

Anonymous

IN

TuaFa1

No.4903

>>4897

>there are millions, I bet you will find many who use Maratha and Rajput surnames as well. I've myself seen a Chauhan Brahmin in Delhi. Perhaps his ancestors were related to the court of Prithviraj Chauhan

No, you won’t find any reliable source saying that. At the very least (even if I were to give you the benefit of doubt), Kabir is an extremely rare surname for Saraswats. On the other hand, it is a very common surname among Kabir Panthi Mahars. So if you connect the dots, Ambedkar’s own caste background, the prevalence of the surname among Kabir Panthis, and its near absence among Saraswats in Maharashtra, the more plausible explanation is that she was Kabir Panthi, not Saraswat.

>Mukesh Ambani's Wife is Brahmin. Ambanis are Vaishyas.

Google says that her father's surname was Dalal and also says that Dalal is more prominently used by Banias of Gujarat.

>Uddhav Thackeray’s wife is Brahmin. Thackerays are Shudras.

I don’t know much about her, she might also be CKP. But let’s not derail, I only meant to clarify the caste of Ambedkar’s second wife, lets leave these for now, nothing else.

Bengali rad

HR

VMENtf

No.4904

>>4900

Ha aaja yaha 10 kanglu intezar kar rahe hai apki ammi ka paijaan, your ammi is too grossing among local kanglus

Anonymous

IN

MCT7qN

No.4905

>>4897

>chauhan brahmin in delhi

Chamar kehte hai unhe pajeet

Anonymous

IN

MCT7qN

No.4906

>>4891

>His second wife was a Kabirpanthi Mahar only. Her surname was Kabir. She wasn't a Saraswat Brahmin. No Saraswat Brahmin in Maharashtra or Goa has the surname "Kabir".

This lmao, when will this hoax actually end kek

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4907

>>4903

>she was Kabir Panthi

she even looks like a brahmin, but enough about that.

>her father's surname was Dalal

I have seen a video of Rahul Kanwal interviewing Anant Ambani in Vantara, at one point they reach a ganesh temple inside Vantara, where Anant Ambani tells how he had a religious upbringing because his mother is Brahmin.

>she might also be CKP

no, she is brahmin, she even looks like one. Her maiden surname was also brahmin.

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4909

>>4905

ptaa nhi, mujhe zyadaa nhi ptaa delhi ki caste dynanimcs ke baare mein. Tu delhi ka ya ya rajput hai ?

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4911

>>4910

inter-caste marriages were extremely rare in those days. But now there is no point in arguing about that without any solid proofs.

But I am pretty sure that there exist Brahmins who use Dalal as their surname.

In Punjab, Mohyal Brahmin sometimes use Singh as their surname too. I think they are the ones who reverted to Hinduism from Sikhism.

Anonymous

IN

TuaFa1

No.4912

>>4907

I’ve seen that interview, he was talking about his nani (maternal grandmother). A more plausible explanation for the supposed Brahmin connection is that his nani married a Baniya, and Nita was their daughter. That would make Nita a Baniya, not a Brahmin.

Father Painbringer

IN

sc2Xqs

No.4913

>>4912

>>4911

Anonymous

IN

TuaFa1

No.4914

>>4911

You’re just arguing with speculations. By that logic, one could claim the surname belongs to any random caste. The most reasonable way to deduce caste is by surname, unless it’s one of the very universally used ones like Kumar, Singh, etc.

Anonymous

IN

ZkKM73

No.4915

>>4914

btw Bhumihars use Choudhary surname in east.

Choudhary is actually a title and so is Dalal.

Anonymous

IN

TuaFa1

No.4916

>>4915

I know that but Dalal surname is specifically more associated with Banias of Gujarat.

Anonymous

IN

aFjlVA

No.4917

>>4886

Read my remark in OP

Anonymous

IN

E+2CPp

No.4918

>>4857(OP)

>Modiji is the emperor Constantine of this era. RSS the new church and Ambedkar is the new Christ.

Modi will marry sonia gandhi?