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0Pd02I
No.113032
>pajeet govt. goes full on AC mode
>push for AC factories
>worker union cock blocks the factories
>bhangi chamar buys them in bulk
>now outside temperature, instead of 42 , goes upto 50
>no one steps outside , all stay gooked up inside their caves like incels in this website
>plant trees outside? Nah local parshad seals the walking area and put AC on it
>AC break down every 6 month
>no worries buy another one
>e waste increasing at alarming rate
All of this happened because pajeet didn't care to learn how AC works.
AC doesn't magically throws cool air
It thermodynamically moves the heat from inside and push it outside. The HEAT STILL REMAINS.
But the pajeet brain can't comprehend this. Well its too much to ask from them.
DuFdvY
No.113038
>>113032(OP)
isn't it better to move heat from inside to outside
5S2WNY
No.113039
>>113038
5S2WNY
No.113041
>>113032(OP)
>saaaar invents a problem before a solution is even inacted
this is how babus work btw, are you a UPSCjeet by any chance?
0Pd02I
No.113043
>>113041
>saaaar do now fix later
wow what a great mindset
>upsc
no upscer thinks this much. If he did , India would have been a better place
5S2WNY
No.113044
>>113043
You may not realize this but many projects were delayed by people like you, most recent was aarey project where bad faith logic like this was used to delay a crucial public service.
Billions of usd loss, 100s of lives were lost due to that.
You are not smart but actually very stupid.
5S2WNY
No.113045
0twwcF
No.113049
>>113044
gayaush is really the ultimate midwit
5S2WNY
No.113054
>>113049
try to refute don't go for personal attacks saaar, entire premise of thread is based on a lie and wrong.
worse is that something similar has been reason for the stagnation of India in infra etc. for a long time due to naysayers like these. So in both cases - as in theory and in real life we saw how these people were wrong but worst thing is that people like these are never punished for their crimes.
And same people whine why india is bad. Eternal whiners.
mC61In
No.113057
>>113032(OP)
>be pajeet
>mad that ACs don't "delete" heat
shocked Pikachu.jpg
> complains about AC heat being pushed outside
>doesn't care that human buildings still aren't 1% of troposphere
>if every room in this world had AC they would just shift less than 1% of atmospheric heat outside
>you are literally just keeping earth how it used to be before civilization
> says no one plants trees
>ignores urban greening programs in cities like Delhi, Ahmedabad, and Pune
>also ignores that people die without cooling in 45–50°C weather
>actual coping
>mad about e-waste
>doesn't blame corporations or poor recycling laws
>blames random Indians buying ACs to not die of heatstroke
>doesn't know AC is mostly made of metal and is easily recyclable.
You are just mad that other people will get cheaper ac with HAR GHAR AC YOJANA
0twwcF
No.113059
>>113054
abbe lodu stop generalising conflicts between libshits about infra projects with your hypothetical ac yojana. what that anon said is true. more air conditioners do lead to a hotter outer climate. you can test this by standing in front of an office park and the back where ac are kept. there is no refuting your points because youre the bad faith actor in every debate
0twwcF
No.113060
>>113057
even dyaush brings these stupid programs into every debate like theyre actually solving anything. contractors cut down massive greenlands and plant a few thousand trees in a city. this is the most basic fraud called greenwashing
5S2WNY
No.113061
>>113059
>stop generalizing
retard the very fundamentals he is whining about is lie.
>first lie - free AC to everyone
>second lie - PSU will produce ACs
>third lie - labour unions chimpout in the said PSU
>fourth lie - bulk purchase of AC as if electricity is free
inb4 free ac for gawreebs, Hui anon and I already talked bout it.
He is literally inventing parallel reality and getting mad about it. This is not generlization rather it is completely in line with what has been done with our various projects. An innate jeetoid mindset where every step is met with retards like him who spew bs and then even bigger retards like you who propagate those bs and cockblocking every good thing.
The very basic premise in the other thread started with
>remove gst from 28% to at best 5%
>go on massive green program - more trees etc.
>maybe involve private players etc. do R&D and scale the production to reduce the price further
in fact i already pointed out in th previous thread that just reducing the tax would do half the job because we will have price reduced by 20% or so in many cases.
We already talked about second order and third order affects but of course clueless tards like you whose intention is just to sabotage everything be street shitter forever will have problems.
0twwcF
No.113064
>>113061
im not getting into the finance part. im more interested in the effects a mass scale of air conditioners will cause to the already unbearable outside temperature. but no you retarded jainiya is always worried about the paisa and the infra
5S2WNY
No.113065
>>113060
>even dyaush brings these stupid programs into every debate like theyre actually solving anything. contractors cut down massive greenlands and plant a few thousand trees in a city. this is the most basic fraud called greenwashing
This is why i said you are a retard. In fact this discussion is happenign is a proof that i am right.
Currently we neither have trees nor people with ac or public services which are half decent.
It's impossible to have everything getting right in first go, literally it's impossible and i fully expect even to the level of corrutpion etc. but the fact is that even 50% success rate is way better than no movement at all (inb4 you clueless tard thinks i am talking about plants as a whole with survival of 50%) - once you understand this very premise you will not argue until then keep being tard.
This is something which is intrinsic among the svbhuman opposition of ours. They whine 24x7, government tries of course failures will be there then they whine about the failures. But fact is that changes are happening do happen due to the policies while there are complete stagnation among opposition because their forte is whining, street shitting openly and calling 'slums as idea of india'.
>>113061
Don't forget all discussion about public services with AC and relationship with how AC services can offset the emission etc. from private vehicles and even if they don't overall way better and serve 80% of the population.
0twwcF
No.113066
>>113061
im not a streetshitter because i shit in your mother's mouth retard
0twwcF
No.113069
>>113065
>This is something which is intrinsic among the svbhuman opposition of ours. They whine 24x7, government tries of course failures will be there then they whine about the failures. But fact is that changes are happening do happen due to the policies while there are complete stagnation among opposition because their forte is whining, street shitting openly and calling 'slums as idea of india'.
so you decided to go full retard you whiny twat 
5S2WNY
No.113071
>>113064
>im not getting into the finance part. im more interested in the effects a mass scale of air conditioners will cause to the already unbearable outside temperature. but no you retarded jainiya is always worried about the paisa and the infra
So things can also have adverse impact so we stop building things? This is utter retarded.
Since we are not doing scientific surveys, hence we are starting with
>public services with AC - we have decent study that public services with AC helps in offsetting the carbon frootprint from those using private vehicles
>reduce GST sales
>invest in R&D for ACs and reduce prices further
>improve electric grid
>mass scale greenery project, lake rejuvenation to the point of 1 per 2000 people
Of course we will not see 100% success but even 30% is an improvement. Basics like GST reduction can be done. Public services with AC is second easiest part then electric grid, greenary project which are happening already can be streamlined.
>retarded jainya is always worried about the paisa nad infra
i don't care much about paisa but i do care about public services and infra. i wish more people cared.
and money is good, more money helps in implementation of ideas, R&D.
5S2WNY
No.113073
>>113069
>so you decided to go full retard you whiny twat
>still didn't understood the relationship
great i don't expect you to, you are too retarded for that.
5S2WNY
No.113074
>>113066
peak intellect here.
mC61In
No.113075
>>113060
And? Why is this suddenly a topic in ac yojana? This has beem happening from ever and to ever.
>>113059
Earth troposphere is where most heat of earth is stored, where we live in.
Human civilization on volume is barely 0.7% of this troposphere. Including colder regions where not even fans are needed.
If every room in this world had an ac, we would just transfer less than 1% of heat outside.
Do the math about how much it should raise general temperature.
Also the heat from AC can be easily utilized coz its just heat.
0twwcF
No.113077
>>113071
>public services with AC - we have decent study that public services with AC helps in offsetting the carbon frootprint from those using private vehicles
meanwhile suv purchases are at peak.
also every bhangi is taking cabs and demands ac otherwise they'll write a reddit post
mC61In
No.113079
>>113064
Less than 1%
0twwcF
No.113080
>>113074
everyone is a streetshitter but your mom's not a shiteater??
0twwcF
No.113082
>>113075
bhangi why are you taking the entire world into account when india is the one suffering from increasing heatwaves every summer. more acs mean more heat for the rest of us
0twwcF
No.113084
>>113079
source de
5S2WNY
No.113085
>>113077
Car ownership in India is like 8%, most of the people use railways, buses etc. for public commute.
Since car is not a big thing in india, already we are suffering with traffic it's the best we go for public services.
Metro network are already seeing peak usage everywhere they are in india.
ONKQN4
No.113086
>>113074
saar stop wasting time on every retard that comes here, let them die in the heat without AC.
5S2WNY
No.113087
>>113080
shut up yaar, even for insult this is cringe af.
0twwcF
No.113089
>>113075
>And? Why is this suddenly a topic in ac yojana? This has beem happening from ever and to ever.
its been happening from year to year because carbon dioxide is increasing year to year. its because purchase of ac units are increasing year to year. and also because green spaces are decreasing year to year
5S2WNY
No.113090
0twwcF
No.113091
>>113087
said the cringiest chappal forum admin ever. shut up gpt poster
mC61In
No.113092
>>113084
>need to provide source about human sivilization taking less than 1% of earth atmosphere by volume
DuFdvY
No.113093
5S2WNY
No.113094
5S2WNY
No.113095
>>113092
0twwcF
No.113096
>>113092
so no proof?
5S2WNY
No.113097
>>113093
Yeah i am in support of promoting cycle, e-bike culcha.
0twwcF
No.113098
DuFdvY
No.113100
>>113097
cycles are even more retarded, cycles will also act like leeches on roads and are also slower
also weren't you against land cramping? if we build seprated lanes for cycles that would be worse
not to forget the toll cycle takes on body, no person who doesn't work in literal 10k pm job in India would want to travel through a cycle to their destination, unless its very close by
DuFdvY
No.113101
e cycles are just e scooties who are even slower
mC61In
No.113102
>>113082
To show the extent retard 😭. The whole world, literally everything humans made, pushed heat outside it would still push less than 1% heat of earth
>when india is the one suffering from increasing heatwaves every summer.
So die in heatwaves? Nuh uh
KHJSQc
No.113108
Idk where you live, but there is AC everywhere in my city. Hell, it's just in some offices like banks
0twwcF
No.113113
>>113100
cycle lanes solve this issue but people travel more than 10+ km here on average and its unbearable to cycle in our weather
KHJSQc
No.113115
>>113108
To be fair though, my city is so chill now because of rain. I don't even need fan.
DuFdvY
No.113116
>>113059
dekh bhai agar building mein kam garami chahiye to..ac ache wale lagao kam bijli kharch ho aur kam heat nikle..ghar ki deewar chhat thoda sahi se banwa lo taaki andar thandak bani rahe..chhat pe safed paint ya patte laga do kuch bhi jo dhoop kam kare, ac ka thermostat samajh ke chalao bekar mein full thanda mat karo
ab baat sheher ki toh
ped lagao gali mein chhat pe har jagah
ac ke piche jo hawa nikalti hai uske paas ped ya kuch hawa ka rasta rakho
sabka alag ac chalane ke bajaye ek hi jagah bada plant lagao jo poore area ko thanda kare
bijli ki baat karein to
agar solar se ac chale to bijli ka load kam hoga aur pollution bhi..ghar banate waqt aise design karo ki hawa khud hi chalta rahe kam ac lage
aur naye tareeke bhi try karo jaise paani se thandak ya zameen ke neeche ka cooling
mC61In
No.113119
>>113096
>so no proof?
Yaar sandas anan
Anyways
>Earth’s surface is about 510 million km²
>According to the FAO Global Land Cover SHARE database, produced in 2014, 0.6% of Earth’s land surface is defined as ‘Artificial surfaces‘.
0twwcF
No.113121
>>113116
so as usual the solution is a holistic approach but midwit retards itt will chimp out over stats with no datasets to show their proofs but memes. kek classic bhangichan thread
0twwcF
No.113123
>>113119
i already told you why are you taking the earth into the calculation when your immediate neighbourhood heats up over the years with increase in air conditioners
DuFdvY
No.113124
>>113121
you are just giving contarian replies, you do not want to hear a solution, that's why you can be classified as a bad faith actor
0twwcF
No.113128
>>113124
i literally agreed with your solution but anons are putting the bull before the cart by asking to implement the latter stage now
mC61In
No.113129
>>113123
>when your immediate neighbourhood heats up over the years with increase in air conditioners
Ab iska proof de. How can you say its just coz ac in india
DuFdvY
No.113131
>>113128
okay my bad, misinterpreted it
0twwcF
No.113135
>>113129
read the urban heat island effect
5S2WNY
No.113139
>>113100
It's smething like this,
>connect most intra city places with good public infra - BRTs, Trams, Metro
>provide e-bike services, under smart city one of the glimpse we got at was those bikes which can be loaned - if we try it can work
>private vehicles only when required - it will happen automatically if hte public service is good most will go for that instead of bothering with cars etc.
>since we no longer need 4 lanes, we can go for 2 lanes, additional cycle lane with pedestrian infra and green cover.
>do what japan and taiwan do, they restrict cars etc. in certain areas and only allow bicycles etc. along with pedestrians
greeen cover is must.
DuFdvY
No.113145
>>113139
makes sense ig
5S2WNY
No.113146
>>113135
Literally
>asphalt - as in broad roads
>reduced vegetation
are the major reason for it.
AC is minor part of it which can be offset by green cover. In fact better green cover means that AC usage will diminish too. In fact public services and pedestrian friendly infra will improve this situation.
If a balance is maintained none of this can be ever an issue but to be in the state of inaction due to that is extreme retardation.
0twwcF
No.113152
>>113139
>is a must
yea and this is where the ac yojana will fail. they wont do the required shit first but will bulk manufacture and install the low quality acs to further gobble up the tax money. another slice given to the contractors and babu netas
8LLENn
No.113154
>>113146
Also centralized cooling in buildings would be better than every floor having 5 seperate units spitting their own heat
8LLENn
No.113156
>>113152
Saar kissi ko AC nahi millne vala free mei, our electricity infrastructure isn't even built to support all these new ACs
5S2WNY
No.113159
>>113116
>>113148
agreed in fact this is what we are saying that to have a sustainable model and AC being just a part of it.
>have a house designed in a way to suite our climate
>improve green cover - if government can't do - do it in your individual capacity
>AC public services - most of us use it and it's better to have AC bus serving 50+ people than AC car serving one person. etc. In fact go full AC on every public service.
>then reorient public infra to limit lanes to max of two with one cycle lane - because wider the road higher it will result in surrounding temperature and lesser the space for green cover.
>pedestrian infra, cycle infra with more green cover.
>reduce gst on AC down to 5%, invest in R&D and produce ACs on mass scale to the point it's easily available b/w 22k to 30k
>additionally, rejuvenate every pond and there should be a mission that for every 2000 people or each ward should focus on atleast one pond/lake surrounded by trees and flowers.
India should be country of lakes/ponds with beautiful gardens etc.
Thing is that all of these are related.
This is summary at my end. Proper green cover will eventually improve the surrounding which will result in reduced AC usage. But in the short term AC price can be reduced, AC public services can be introduced. Green cover takes atleast few years to completely in act.
3nz3uv
No.113160
>>113114
milega anan ac milega. pehle qti pi gura ko mere ghar bhejneka hain special ac repairing training k liye ji
5S2WNY
No.113161
>>113154
>centralized cooling
Yeah this is not a norm in India but probably R&D should go into this to make AC affordable and make it like centralized - easy to implement for say 3 to 4 story buildings.
5ZnGUe
No.113165
I say we go back to dhotis. No more jeans. I'm not fucking covering my upper body at fucking 42 degree celcius. Fuck you whities.
5S2WNY
No.113168
>>113114
Don't worry pyare, under mission AP-TT - AC Yojana, Public Service Yojana, Tree Cover yojana and Talab Yojana you will get your AC at a price of your xiaomi phone.
5S2WNY
No.113172
>>113165
Good luck half naked under the sun saaar.
0twwcF
No.113174
>>113156
then it'll be even worse because the govt wouldn't be responsible for taking the other steps to ensure an overwhelming increase in acs running 24/7 doesnt result in a further increase of 2-3 degrees
v6PHMG
No.113175
>>113165
Only aasijeets can do this, steppe chads will probably develop cancer or get heavy tans
v6PHMG
No.113176
>>113174
saar none of this will actually happen, rest assured, we are just discussing a very hopeful and optimistic view point
india already has severe power shortage problems
5ZnGUe
No.113178
5S2WNY
No.113178
>>113152
We are starting with reduction from 28% gst to 5%. Public buses with AC - Local trains with AC, metro etc. are already in AC.
Then PLI scheme for AC manufacturers and R&D to reduce the prices probably look into ideas like easy central cooling for indian houses.
Parallely we should see, already happening btw, green cover movement. 2 years of extreme movement to plant trees. Maybe get lakes in order. And PR for houses to be in certain design which suite climate.
Next stage of public service improvement: Trams, BRTs, Metros etc. in cities Eventually pedestrial, cycle infra and other stuff too.
If it's made a political and national project we can see entire nashunal mission and face change in less than a decade.
5ZnGUe
No.113180
>>113172
you are using AC under a sun
5S2WNY
No.113181
>>113176
>saar none of this will actually happen, rest assured, we are just discussing a very hopeful and optimistic view point
We could have been pic related in parallel reality 
5S2WNY
No.113183
5S2WNY
No.113186
Blaady pic related is from a country with lower per capita than ours b-bros we need a brootal movement to take back our cities to reasonable living situation. 
8LLENn
No.113187
>>113186
Algeria 💀
5S2WNY
No.113190
>>113187
Btw we literally helped, our own contractor worked in pic related project
3nz3uv
No.113195
>>113032(OP)
kekkkk, wuzz thimkin the same. the only saving grace for lundia is its corruption and the babus that the upper caste tax paying peeps blames the most.
Like blaady the only ones saving you by playing 4D chess are these babus.
Just imagine how deep a hole the entire pajeet pappulation would create by raping the ozone if everyone blaady had an AC. Like blaady you would be paying for it.
And who saves you from it? Blaady babus.
Babus have increased taxes on AC and coolers just so that the blaady gwareebs won't be able to afford them. yes you pay extra for a subhooman product but blaady you save yourself from the nignoggery that you would face if everyone else had it.
Take the motor vehicle for example. It wuzz actually a good thang during the red tape era when only a handful of people had bikes and 4 wheelers. blaady there wouldn't be this many traffic jams. yes commercial vehicles would be given a a breathing room through taxes but you can't have the blaady masses own a blaady bike or a car.
Imagine that, would you prefer going down a stretch of empty road on your splendorwa costing 2 lakhs or would you prefer going down your harley davison costing 2 lakhs down an overcrowded road?
Blaady you will still be living in lundia so the gals instead of fawning over the harley would be fawning over your splendorwa like they wuzz doin back in 90s or early 2000s. but nyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nathin good can exist in this land.
We can't have a free economy because of too much faggits having vooting powers so we have the shittier systum. Like if you had a stronger center then sure reduce all taxes but you will never be able to do it so let the babus make it a living hell for the gwareebs and let me in the babuocracy.
3nz3uv
No.113218
>>113093
nyooo blaady what should be done is that they should ban all post 2010 bikes so that only I with my 2 splendors pre 2010 era can rule the road
3nz3uv
No.113259
>>113224
nyooooooo, it blaady works faine and yui loves riding it.
