Redpill me on Bhumihars
k3oJg6
No.326286
Are they the final standing community from Upper Caste fedual lord era?
bo/Pnf
No.326291
>>326286(OP)
They are Brahmins who took up Kshatriya traditions.
Even their DNA is same as gangetic Brahmins. But Tyagis are different.
k3oJg6
No.326298
>>326291
I heard that they hold 40% land in Bihar and 30% land in Jharkhand, is it true? Are they the Up thakur equivalent of these states?
TKJ0x6
No.326299
>>326286(OP)
They became anti UCs, recently they openly started abusing brahmins and rajputs
Allied even with Ahirs in this election, the one they fight for decades
aWyYwj
No.326301
>>326286(OP)
Man, my ex roomate was bumihar from jharkhand, his dad owned land used to torture poor farmers by making them slave around and not paying them enough but his dad didn't want the same life for him lol, sent his son to Bangalore to wageslave, never allowed his own son to return, I'm telling you bumihars have committed unspeakable crimes against the poor classes, so much that all of the money still can't shake the guilt they have
k3oJg6
No.326306
>>326299
what about him? Anant singh, often denoted as the king of Bihar
6STymO
No.326309
>>326286(OP)
Long ago i met a guy from my chhapri group. He speaked like an average bihari. Was short, brown, but not too much. Obviously kinda gareeb. Had good facial features but his height took it away. He worked in a showroom after grinding in big basket delivery for a time. Last year i saw his posts and shiet and came to realise he was a bhumihar. It felt really weird coz i am LC
6NhRfq
No.326311
TKJ0x6
No.326315
6STymO
No.326316
>>326301
>I'm telling you bumihars have committed unspeakable crimes against the poor classes, so much that all of the money still can't shake the guilt they have
That could be said about any dominant caste in any state
bo/Pnf
No.326317
>>326298
They have more influence in Bihar ghan Thakurs have in UP.
bo/Pnf
No.326322
>>326311
Tyagis DNA results match more with Jats.
TKJ0x6
No.326323
>>326317
Thakurs have power in UP? I thought they are being cucked by Muslims and yadav chads
k3oJg6
No.326324
>>326317
As the saying goes, Punjab, Haryana jaato ka. Rajasthan, UP rajwadon ka, Bihar Jharkhand, bhumihaaro ka
TKJ0x6
No.326334
>>326324
2% of the population, cucked all the other UCs, own 60% of state's land, have a lot of influence in politics despite low population
6STymO
No.326337
>>326323
Its growing power dynamics. Yadavs today are more dangerous to mess with but rajputs still hold more economically wealth. Few yesrs more and yadavs will definitely become jaats of bihar
bo/Pnf
No.326339
>>326323
Thakurs compete with other OBC castes in UP.
They compete with Jats, Gujjars, Lodhis and Tyagis in West UP. Yadavs, Muslims (Rohilkhand) and Brahmins in central UP. They definitely dominate East UP.
k3oJg6
No.326342
>>326339
West UP jaato ka hi hai pura, Tyagi se competition hoga shayad, Gujjaro ki toh boht kam hai inke comparison mei
TKJ0x6
No.326343
>>326339
Then why thakurs cry about love jihad? I heard both UP and Rajasthan are hotspot of it
bo/Pnf
No.326347
>>326342
Noida Gujjaro Ka hai. Tyagis aur Muslims Tyagis ka influence accha hai kuch rural Belts mein.
Braj region mein Jats aur Lodhi ki hi chalyi hai.
k3oJg6
No.326351
>>326334
They don't have overwhelming domination in politics but they do own most lands
bo/Pnf
No.326352
>>326343
In UP and Rajasthan its mostly girls from weak OBC castes that get trapped by Love Jihadists.
In rural regions and poor classes Dalits girl marry Muslims and Muslim girls marry Dalits.
TKJ0x6
No.326355
>>326352
What about brahmin girls?
TKJ0x6
No.326358
>>326351
Bhumihars and lowercastes should unite against UCs
bo/Pnf
No.326362
>>326351
>that pic
Anti Kurmi Lodhis Jats propaganda. Basically anti OBC propaganda. Powerful OBCs threaten Rajputs the most in UP
k3oJg6
No.326364
>>326347
Redpill me on Lodhis, UP's most based CM ever was Kalyan Singh (lodhi), also is it true that Braj region Braj have good concentration of Jats who are more into Harit Pradesh politics because they think that they can carve another Jat dominant political base apart from Haryana and Punjab? From what I know, Braj people have cultural and marital ties with Bharatpur, Deeg, Swai Madhopur, Dausa and Karauli in Rajasthan and Gwalior, Bhind and Morena in MP than districts of upper Ganga doaba or Rohilkhand and NCR
k3oJg6
No.326366
>>326358
Bhumari to sabse anti lc hote the
6STymO
No.326370
>>326358
Bhumihar are UC
bo/Pnf
No.326371
>>326355
Minimum cases. It becomes a news whenever it happens.
Brahmins are mostly endogamous. The liberal Brahmins marry Baniyas and nothing beyond that.
Rajput men themselves decline any relationship with Brahmin girls in most cases.
TKJ0x6
No.326375
Lets be serious now, no baiting
Why bhumihars have so much strength in bihar and why other UCs failed, is it because they are violent and merciless?
I heard maithili brahmins used to own a lot of land ( they still do ) and so do rajputs but they don't have much dominance like bhumihars?
6NhRfq
No.326377
>>326374
UP Jaat are obc? My friend from merrut gave JEE in General category, the fuck?
k3oJg6
No.326381
>>326375
Bhumihar explicitly sought to capture more lands as is evident in their per capita land holding. But other UCs own decent percentage of land too, Rajputs created meany senas during naxwalwaad too
TKJ0x6
No.326385
>>326381
Rajputs literally got raped
One rajput hamlet was raided by 1000+ lowercastes, 50 rajputs were killed, 55 something rajput women were raped and they haven't avenged it yet
bo/Pnf
No.326387
>>326364
Lodhis are the one of the 4 original Criminal designated Tribes by British colonial government. Others being Gujjar and 2 castes from south India. Criminal Tribes are the antonym of martial race castes.
Lodhis are radically religious people from what we can make out of their political leadership. Kalyan Singh, Uma Bharti, Tiger Raja Singh etc radical Hindu politicians are all Lodhis. Brahmins have no problem with them from what I know.
Brahmins of Braj ocassionally run into problems with Jats and Yadavs.
contd...
6NhRfq
No.326393
>>326381
Yadav 14.2% and own 7.5% land, wtf, why do they claim to be landlords and shi?
bo/Pnf
No.326406
>>326387
About the Jat Harit Pradesh movement. Its Impossible to move even an inch of Mathura or any Braj District without getting any clearance from Brahmins. All dominant General and OBC Hindu castes in Braj respect Brahmins. Even Braj Jats don't care much about Harit Pradesh agenda. Its only the NCR Jars that sometimes talk about this but even they don't feel strongly about it since they are mostly involved in agriculture related local politics.
6STymO
No.326408
>>326375
>Lets be serious now, no baiting
>Why bhumihars have so much strength in bihar
Ok so
1. They moved from brahmin ritual and get into landholding
2. They were the first non brahmins to invest largeely in english education and literacy
3. When mughals expanded to bihar they were the first to serve as zamindars and because they were literate they were chosen
4. Bihar runs on caste based politics but there is rivalry among the castes themselve. On the other hand bhumihars maintained intra-caste communications and changed parties as they fit to them
5. They were just as violent as rajputs but more literate and had more support from national parties wheres other UCs were only getting it from state parties and that too very complicatedly
So basically, first literate, mughals give zamindari, bhumihar rich
k3oJg6
No.326409
>>326385
their militias conducted small scale raids for revenge but yes it wasn't as brutal as what bhumihars did.
k3oJg6
No.326429
>>326393
they don't, they claim political domination due to higher population but that's it
bo/Pnf
No.326430
B2ywVm
No.326433
>>326291
>They are Brahmins who took up Kshatriya traditions.
Wrong, they are Kshatriya who took Brahmin tradition. It is vice versa, which is why both the Kshatriya and the Brahmins community is not fond of them despite them being very well respected before this.
>Even their DNA is same as gangetic Brahmins.
It's not.
>But Tyagis are different.
Tyagi are Vaishya. Same story as Bhumihar, tried to larp as Brahmins, out ostracised by both the Vaishya and Brahmin community as a result.
B2ywVm
No.326436
TKJ0x6
No.326442
>>326409
They could have done better
bo/Pnf
No.326447
>>326433
Bhumihar DNA is indistinguishable from Brahmin DNA. Its proven again and again in DNA results.
I am not Bhumihar.
Ze7dYT
No.326448
>>326355
>What about brahmin girls?
Extremely endogamous, besides even OBC tend to attack and lunch Muzzies frequently. Majority of interfaith marriages is between the low caste subbos like dalit and Muzzies, since both are equally inferior and inbred.
k3oJg6
No.326449
>>326442
after Ranveer sena took action, things were mostly stabilized, now bihar is mostly peaceful
TKJ0x6
No.326453
>>326408
Maithili brahmins too were rich and literate
And other UCs were not weak either
I think its just bhumihars who fight backed against naxals and stayed united, which is why they still dominate
Picrel was built by maithili brahmins
TgVhiY
No.326454
>>326447
>Bhumihar DNA is indistinguishable from Brahmin DNA.
It is, they have different geno saturation and well as different Mt Dna, in the most cases they don't even have same haplogroups.
>Its proven again and again in DNA results.
Post even one
>I am not Bhumihar.
Don't care if you are not, Bhumihars were never Brahmins, and after they tried to larp as one, they will never be Kshatiryas either as long as they all keep larping as such. Two entire Varnas don't just start hating you over night. Same goes for the Tyagis. People still consider them UC and both Brahmin and Rajputs will go to war for the Bhumihars, and kill a dozen Dalits for them, but that is that and this is this.
Ze7dYT
No.326457
>>326453
Maithil Brahmins had an entire Sakha named after them, so it makes sense that they were all doing well well
I8RBw4
No.326459
>>326375
i am from Mithila and there are barely any Bhumihar here. Mostly just maithili rajputs/brahmins
Ze7dYT
No.326462
>>326381
>Bhumihar explicitly sought to capture more lands
Bhumihar comes from Bhumi Haran, which just literally means to seek land, they all were kind of the original land owner caste of the India, whose entire trade was being land lord. They care more than any other caste about owning land, and it reflects to this day.
Ze7dYT
No.326465
>>326459
I wonder if Maithil region was its own state it would have been in a better state than bihar. It is the most UC saturated region of Bihar as well.
bo/Pnf
No.326466
>>326434
They claim Kshatriya descent. They use the surname Rajput. They must be some ancient warrior tribe like Rors etc who took up agriculture after losing their traditions.
There are few other similar castes that exist in North India with similar stories.
Watch this from 2:57 to 4:47 for summary
bo/Pnf
No.326470
>>326454
Are you Thakur ?
k3oJg6
No.326486
>>326466
something similar may have happened to kambojs perhaps
Ze7dYT
No.326507
>>326486
Kambhojas were Vritya, they were technically going to be Avarnia but their accomplishments still kept them from falling of the chain. This is not the entire verse, it talks about how those in North East and China, Afghan and few Central Asian and Dravida too had Kshatriyas who were fallen due to not keeping Vedic reactions alive, but are qualified for the status of Arya.
This also includes Greeks and Romans btw. Kambhojas is used as a more encapsulating term, like how the word Sindhi would have applied for all those who were native to Sindhu region. Kambhoja being a Vritya means they were Kshatriyas, did something really shitty, became Shudras. To sum it up.
I8RBw4
No.326514
>>326465
What we need is more solid infra. Living in north Bihar is brootal. 20 years ago there weren't even any roads to get to villages, only seasonal paths. Every year the great floods come and take everything away, half the whole region looks like picrel from July to late September/Oct. Rivers change paths frequently so you have bricks lying around everywhere. The rate of unemployment is so high, the only people who can survive living there are either UCs who own a fuckton of land, LCs who work on that land, or the never-ending stream of Muslims from east. Everyone else migrates to Patna/other states for a 15kpm job
Netas are replacing us with k2as at this point. It's bleak
bo/Pnf
No.326517
>>326514
Which region is Prashant Kishor from ?
k3oJg6
No.326532
>>326507
I see, thanks for adding more context
Ze7dYT
No.326535
>>326532
In case people want it to be simpler, Kambhojas were Kshatriyas, did something fucked up, were going to be Avarnia/Untouchable but due to the accomplishments only became Shudras, giving them a second chance for future, same goes for most Jats as well in case people are not aware.
I8RBw4
No.326537
>>326517
south Bihar
6STymO
No.326543
>>326453
Yeah..it just bhumihars got into zamindari first and mostly. They abondoned priestly duties to get into landholding. Other didn't.
TKJ0x6
No.326596
>>326514
Muslims are recently migrating towards UCs region
vj7ite
No.326689
>>326286(OP)
Pajeet's lives in shitland dehat and still somehow wanna feel superior to chamars
TKJ0x6
No.326693
>>326689
Chamar spotted
