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Internet was the last straw for a free India
MNPD3R
No.44
Consumerism in India has blown up thanks to internet, previously you had to go to UK etc. to learn how to be a good sepoy and lick asses of cumskins. If you were a good tool, maybe get invited in their secret societies and participate in their freemasonic rituals like Bhosdasahib did, but now, you get unfiltered, 24/7 constant propaganda cherrypicked by CIA ISI Chinese nexus. It is so funny to me that people think on 15 aug,1947 the cumskins left and everybody was happy, like they aren't busy installing and running the politics and the theater here from afar to continue looting the nation. Indian government's counter intelligence is pretty shit and we all know it, corruption is rife, in the 80's no document reached to the PM without the KGB taking a look at it. The only thing that has changed now is that we are given an illusion of transparency and control, and the internet has a massive hand in it. We’ve got a tired, pissed-off youth shitting on their own country every chance they get. I won’t deny it, we’ve got problems, but who’s raking in the profits from this self-hate? Not the average guy here, that’s for damn sure Its actually both the politicians and the foreign powers. How? The herd that is radicalised into these ideas of leaving india to be treated as a second class citizen somewhere else, is already hungry for living in another country. The foreign companies exploit it very easily since they know these morons will accept a low paying job just to live in another country. The foreign governments also benefit, have two clashing cultures together, so the people beg for more authoritarian laws and government.Trump's handlers are very smart with his picks because they knows his retarded crowd doesn't want people other than cumskin in the office. Creating cognitive dissonance in the populace is a very well known tactic. Horseshoe theory in effect. As for the politicians here, they benefit too, since its like culling the herd, you get an easygoing populace who has proved their loyalty by not leaving and living here. They prove their subservience. Its a very long game that is being played here with such a complex web of who's really behind it all that it is very difficult for the people to figure out what is actually going on. Also casteism doesnt exist and is a freemasonic thing propagated by the handlers of bhosdasahib to keep people divided. Look up the freemasonic ideas and tenets and his own works, and you'd see who really pulled the strings.
wAqF8w
No.47
>>44(OP)
Good thinking anon, although you might wanna share bhosdasaheb's masonic proofs of castiest division other wise the s from this chan will brand u schizo.
Everything is connected pyaare.
jfUD4S
No.48
did you never hear about magazines and shortwave radio or did your father abandon you as a child
cSe1QD
No.49
>>44(OP)
Interesting desu. I feel the elites are preparing something big, with Trumps election and America's (seemingly retarded) withdrawal from the West. I feel the death blow to the West was not Indians, Blacks, Hispanics, but Trump. Europe is nothing without American firepower, and America will collapse from the inside while Europe collapses due to external factors.
cSe1QD
No.50
>>44(OP)
>Trump's handlers are very smart with his picks because they knows his retarded crowd doesn't want people other than cumskin in the office
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cSe1QD
No.51
>>44(OP)
I unironically think casteism is the driving force behind India's unity, I had this discussion with a friend a while back.
Firstly, India's pretty fucking diverse, like you wouldn't expect such a large country with 27 major languages, ethnic clashes, etc etc to be united. Here's my theory as to why:
Humans are Tribalistic, We are tied (by birth or not) to certain "Tribes", Which are fictional constructs. Some tribes take precedence over others. Some people are X first, Y second. This means that a person fitting in both X and Y will help a person X or do something benefiting the X tribe before doing something benefiting the Y tribe.
Castes have (and still are, for the most part), A persons primary tribe, before their language, state, or race. 2 brahmins one from the North and another from the South will feel a muchh stronger bond that a brahmin from north and a low caste from north who speak the same language.
As a result of this, There is no real movement for seccession of states on the basis of language. As most people identify with their caste stronger that their language. Infact a lot of seccesionistic movements in India are heavily anti-caste.
cSe1QD
No.52
MNPD3R
No.56
>>48
Inferior forms of controlling the herd compared to the internet. That is my point: the internet gives you an illusion of control and transparency. With radio, magazines, newspapers, etc., you typically know the motivations and the people behind the message. It's very easy to discern propaganda from truth. In contrast, the internet offers semi-anonymity, and it is vast and fragmented, thus giving you an illusion of control and transparency
MNPD3R
No.57
>>50
Put yourself in the shoes of an average trump supporter. How do you feel about the man you glaze so much put the illegal immigrants in charge and is taking the "native" jobs and destroying white culture (Lol). It is a very smart tactic. To combat this dissonance, you might find yourself rationalizing his actions and words. You might think, "Trump isn't as racist as the Democrats claim; they just want to paint him as Hitler to discredit him." This kind of reasoning helps you reconcile the conflicting feelings you have about his policies and rhetoric.
This cognitive dissonance can actually strengthen your loyalty to Trump. When faced with contradictions, instead of questioning your support, you double down on it. You might become more defensive and vocal in your support, feeling the need to justify your beliefs to yourself and others leading to a stronger sense of identity tied to Trump and his administration, as you seek to align your views with his messaging, even if it means overlooking or rationalizing problematic statements.
MNPD3R
No.58
>>51
>>52
>>52
I cannot find it now, but 3-4 months back, I stumbled upon some actual lectures of masoic lodges in the UK talking about Ambedkar and how he spread their tenets. I don't think it is far fetched or "schizo" to believe Ambedkar rubbed shoulders with the big boys who taught him his ABC's while he was staying in UK to sow discord here. A good amount of the intellectual clas of freedom fighters were involved in freemasonry, as well as the industrialists like Tata.
UW2ncc
No.60
>>58
Interesting. My grandfather was a freemason. Never asked him about it.
UW2ncc
No.61
>>58
Where? Youtube?
UW2ncc
No.62
pwm6ss
No.64
>>61
Nope, was searching randomly about Casteism when I found a bunch of modules taught to masons, they did have yt videos but they were deleted. I think the website is also gone now since I cannot find it with any keywords.
pwm6ss
No.65
>>60
Very cool. Was he religious or spiritual?
UW2ncc
No.67
He's religious, yeah. But from what it seems, the freemasons seems like an organisation for making buisness connections and shit like that at the lower levels. I think very few freemasons actually are actually involved in the esoteric aspects of it. Most see it as a sort of buisness club. My dad joined it for a bit, but most of the people were a lot older than him, and they asked him to mug up some bullshit, which he didn't want to so he left.
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pwm6ss
No.68
>>62
>>62
You're very much on the money, I share the same thoughts about caste system. Indian subcontinent was very deeply ingrained in communitarism and religion. Caste system strengthened it. People fail to see the way society was structured back then wasn't the same now. Death, diseases,wars were rampant. Being closer to your tribe/village/caste served as a great way to prevent yourself from the harshness. People who worked with cremation/dead bodies were separated from the main village in almost all civilisations, not because of muh racism/casteism but because the chances of catching disease through those people are tenfold. Caste system is another reason why our scriptures remained uncorrupted. Our society was very much geared towards a spiritual/communalistic way of living rather than the shitty individualistic western thought that is being propagated now. If caste system was as bad as they claim now, we would not have the writers of the texts like Mundaka Upanishad or the Shakyamuni running around claiming "Buddhahood". The whole problem stems from looking at the past through a modern lens.
The diversity of India is a double edged sword. India will benefit hugely by being an actual decentralised Union of states. No matter which party is in power, they'll always push towards a harsher central government role to play divide and rule.I don't think language has been a strong justification for secession in most cases. It often follows the primary factor for secession, which is tribal identity, as you said, but it never precedes it.
UW2ncc
No.69
>>68
A commonality of language is a very strong justification for seccession. Consider sri lanka, the ussr, china, and so on and so forth. Tribal identity stems from similarities, and two people with a similar tongue are part of a "tribe". Infact every person is a member of n-number of "tribes" where each tribe referers to a commonality, be it thought, language, lineage (supposed or actual), upbringing, etc etc. However, the order of importance of each factor is variable per society and per individual.
pwm6ss
No.70
>>69
Yes, but a white guy will not call a brown or a black guy as his brother despite them sharing tongue. Civic nationalism is an idealistic pipe dream, and can only be enforced if you have majority sharing same religion or tribe. USSR and PRC had a very strong authoritarian non democratic government. Indira tried to pull that off and we know how it went. That sort of thing is not possible here. That is why I said, it can make for a strong point for secession but through a tribalistic identity like ethnicity,race,caste but it doesn't precede.
UW2ncc
No.71
>>70
You have a valid point, and here's my answer. Basically, when it comes to considering "language" as a commonality, I will not consider the act of speaking the language itself, but following the same evolution of that language without any breaks. My apologies for not being clear, For example, take a white anglo speaking english. He can understand his father who can understand his grandfather and so on and so forth. Compared to a black american who speaks english. At some point in his lineage, there is an abrupt stop, ie, english and whatever west african language. You may consider this to be the same is genetic lineage which is another commonality, however they are linked but different. Take the case of 2 people of the same caste who speak different languages. They are genetically linked, but not linguistically linked. The order of preference is variable. In areas of india where linguistic commonality takes preference over genetic commonality, (or perhaps, linguistic and genetic commonalities are much more correlated than caste and genetic commonalities, I am unsure) say the south, there are seccesionistic sentiments.
UW2ncc
No.72
bumping (for overboardfags)
6kOUdS
No.73
>>71
Someone say something.
RTNTTM
No.74
RTNTTM
No.75
or language specific? (which is already there??)
RTNTTM
No.77
>>71
Yes but you Contradicted your point, language is something which can change over point
In yoh example of the black man, the west African speaking one would also see a stop when tracing his lineage
Can we consider language then?
YULqKH
No.78
>>44(OP)
sounds like hexamutt
ZVE/56
No.79
pwm6ss
No.80
>>75
no need for further restructuring, what we have is sufficient. More autonomy to the states is a better way to not antagonize the population. This whole hindi imposition row that is there is cause of central government retardedness trying to play divide and rule. I truly think that instead of LARPing as a Union of states, if we take the right steps to be an actual union, we'd have a better functioning political as well as societal structure here. Half of the problems in this country are due to the diversity being stained with so much shit that the unity is lost.
qz0o7a
No.87
>>80
but don't u think giving more autonomy to current state structure cause more division in people living in same states (eg; tamil nadu) based on caste?
OvdvRx
No.101
bumpu
dlzDzT
No.123
>>50
He is just a bait
dlzDzT
No.124
>>78
who?
