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>son of a bricklayer/gardener/butcher and a low status family

>revolutionised physics, math and astronomy

>proves wrong all claims of birth based jobs being good

>>163402(OP)

This only applies to wypipo

>>163434

It can apply to anyone. Just reach out towards life and dream big

>>163434

no. plenty of people in drdo arent some special brahmin and drdo does well for its budget.

>>163402(OP)

Did he do it because of reservations?

>>163450

He did it because Europe allowed son of a Butcher/bricklayer/gardener to dream big. He was given early admit to Gottingen

>>163451

How much more gibsmedat do you chamars need before you can achieve that?

>>163402(OP)

Only meghnad saha is a lower caste who contributed to science. Exceptions always exist to genetics and connection to merit, but generally the pattern is same. I wish there was way to neutralise it

>>163460

The same gibsmedat that Uc would need to turn back to actual uc of the vishwapooro

>>163462

>I wish there was way to neutralise it

There is. Its called not creating even more barriers stopping fair particapants to rise.

>>163460

Until more SCs become financially stable, and chamar stops being a slur

>>163463

>Admits UC aren't at any advantage

>Still needs reservation to compete

>>163474

>Until more SCs become financially stable

Not vague at all

>>163466

Even with barriers to "ucs" and push for lcs, lcs aren't able to rise, i doubt free competition will do much

>>163475

>UC aren't at any advantage

Reservations aren't justice. One should banish all the UCs from every institutions for 1000 years atleast and seclude them to separate colonies. They should be forced to do blue collar jobs to survive and should be punished for taking other professions. Then after 1000 years. We should remove the barriers and give them 15% reservation. If they collectively don't rise to upper middle class in 70 years, the reservations should be removed and they must be left on their own again. How is it? Isn't it better than reservation by a 1000 mile?

>>163489

What barriers to UC? 90% of UC aren't going to get employed by government or top institutions regardless. They will take part in private economy

>>163490

Peak jeet mentality. Can't make it themselves, so they want to drag everyone down to their level. Even on a self-presevation level, you fail as a specie if you think you can do without gibs taken from UC taxes

>>163490

Modern trads and UC unionists now try to claim discrimination never happened, because they know that the truth is out now that the scriptures are on internet for all to read

>>163495

He was using a comparison argument

>>163490

Bad b8

>>163474

Europe had no gibs program when he achieved that tho.

>>163490

So your argument is that 1000s years old muh discrimination have turned you in to absolute retards? Wouldn't it be just more economically viable to just turn your kind in to biofuel now itself instead of waiting 1000 years so you chamara can achieve something kek?

>>163491

UCs don't have 90% reservation sirs.

>>163466

The only barriers that exists are for UCs.

>>163509

Europe never had an attitude of preventing children of butchers from academics

>>163497

There is no argument. He just wanted retribution for crimes he never faced aginst people who never commited it.

>>163506

Bait or not, progressive actually believe this even if they don't say it out loud.

>>163533

The effects of those crimes remain.

>>163537

One, no it isn't. Two, even if was, you already have enough gibs, and Third, no society or law code today believe in any concept of historical fault to be transferrable to modern society.

>>163552

It is not about historical fault though.

>>163525

>>163537

And so? Your argument was that you chamarans would do something like that NOW if you were treated the same manner. But despite all the opportunities given to your kind, you still cope and you still seethe.

If you still need 1000s year old selective discrimination programs to make up for ur 'past wrongs' then I think it's just more economically viable to genocide your kind rather than wait so long kek.

>>163556

Are you seriously going to pretend the modern Indian state is oppressing you people in the 21th century?

>>163495

>drag everyone down to their level.

But pajeet, you will be given all the gibs to make up for it so its ok

>>163514

Correct. It was 100%.

>>163512

My arguement is to truthfully and by justice UCs should go through the natural process but will be given 10% reservation for 70 years to uplift themselve. If they fail then i would agree to turn them into biofuel.

>>163515

What barriers? If your grandfathers did anything out of bluecollar jobs then you dont have any barriers.

>>163559

>make up for ur 'past wrongs'

No pajeet. It is for balancing the priveldge vs discrimination and its effect arguement. If you fail to rise up after the 1000 yr banishment then its ok to genocide the uc. I would agree to you

>>163574

What gibs do I get from you ingrates beyond your never ending seethe?

>>163583

You see chamar, this is an argument over what is more efficient. Not what you think must be fair. If what its needed to bring your kind to the same level as UCs now is the scenario you brought up, then its much more efficient to get rid of your kind.

>>163579

>What barriers? If your grandfathers did anything out of bluecollar jobs then you dont have any barriers.

You posted the OP with a guy who's father did a menial job. You seems to not even understand the logical inconsistencies of your own argument lmao.

>>163567

The effects of the historical incidents remain

>>163579

>>163594

Btw my grandfather was a drama artist. My grandmother ran a small tea stall which is where my father's family were able to be fed. I am no brahmincel, in case you are assuming that lmao.

>>163599

If the effects still remain then you are just admitting that your kind will never make anything like the OP you posted lmao.

>>163603

Not an argument + strawman

>>163588

>What gibs do I get

Everything that current reserved do. 15% reservation that is.

>>163594

>this is an argument over what is more efficient. Not what you think must be fair.

Oh no, now the "fairness" doesn't matter? But what about the reservatikn and gibs seethe ? Doesn't the fairness is the whole arguement behind the seethe?

>>163594

>posted the OP

I am not OP

>>163402(OP)

Yeah somehow all the established science on iq being hereditary is wrong due to one exception. Exceptions prove the rule. For every one of such exceptional cases there are thousands of other cases that prove the clear pattern. Pull up early life section of any great scientist's wiki page. They usually belonged to successful educated families. Also got to understand that europe experienced class stratification much much later than india which was an older civilization. Prior to development of civilization and post industrial society, professional specializations were far fewer and less cognitively challenging. There were fewer jobs available than the number of eligible people of equal intelligence.

>>163604

That's your own argument lmao.

If historical discrimination stilll rears their ugly heads that you can't still achieve anything as good as a brahmincel(which is btw the lowest of the lowest in the totem pole of soyntific achievements kek) and you still think that is a far reach for your kind then it just follows logically you do agree that your kind have no such capability kek.

>>163605

In what way do I get any benifit form having someone unqualified secure any position?

>>163600

>my grandfather was a drama artist.

Clearly not held by any "barriers" Dramas weren't downtrodden profession from the last centuries. They make tons.

>My grandmother ran a small tea stall

Ah, the ol' case of "just believe me bro". Lol even. Am i to believe women were allowed to run tea shops 50 years ago. Lmao, so bad at even lying on an imageboard

>>163610

1000 years of discrimination will leave its impact +even today discrimination exists. As the other anon said, let UCs undergo 1000 years of bl7e collar jobs then have 100 years of 15% reservations then we will see

>>163607

Why do you keep moving the goalposts? I never seethed about muh fairness lmao, can't you even read?. Who seethed about muh rejerbashuns here kek? Not me. Its you chamars who seethe about not getting enough rejerbashuns lmao.

Do you care about being fair? You chamars aren't going to give up on rejerbashuns, so why should others care about muh fairness lmao.

>>163402(OP)

>son of a low status father

perhaps you were unaware of the fact that rich aristocrats slept with prime village cunnies who grew up to be servant maids who inturn were mistresses of chads breeding like wild bulls

>>163611

You can don't let them secure the position with 15% reservation at help.

>>163613

You are so historically illiterate that it pains lmao.

Here's a homework for you kid, go search 'country side cottages' from 17th and 16th centuries and look which genders worked in those paintings kek.

>>163614

I don't care about being fair or fixing historical wrongs that you seethe about chamar. I care about results and I can't wait 1000 years to get rid of the only elites we have under the promise you chamars will do something in that time kek.

>>163615

>Why do you keep moving the goalposts

Pot calling the kettle. So retarded yet so funny. I guess you were just clown dancing in the whole thread then. Makes sense.

>>163615

>Do you care about being fair?

Obviously i do. That why i suggest >>163490. Completely fair

>aren't going to give up on rejerbashuns

We will. Just that you won't be allowed to enter anything other than bluecollar jobs for 1000 years something. But you can have 15% reservation for next 70 years. Cheers about it bro isnt that enough?

>>163618

>historically illiterate

Lmao even. Not even worth arguing. Kindly go fuck yourself.

>>163622

>pot calling kettle black

So you admit being a hypocrite? Kek.

>Obviously I do

Then don't say I cared about fairness lmao.

>we will

Sure you will lol.

>>163620

>I care about results

Then why don't you rope yourself for being a NEET?

>>163624

Not really, you are honestly retarded af if you think all women did a 50 years ago was sit in their houses and looked after kids all the time.

>>163620

>I don't care about being fair or fixing historical wrongs that you seethe about chamar

Maybe then fuck yourself away from this thread. This thread is about that not your retarded goalpost transportations.

>I care about results

You clearly don't. In the slightest. If you did you wiuld understand how everything helps india on overall. Like retard, people running the countey aren't as retard as you.

>>163614

>1000 years of discrimination saar.

How do u think discrimination emerged in the first place? They were distanced because they used to clean sewers and stinked of death as they handled leather. Kings priests and wealthy merchants didnt mingle with commonfolk. Doesnt happen even today. You make it sound as if they were discriminated and cherrypicked first and forced in a profession later. No thats not how it happened. They were on the lower iq side of the curve and had to go for those occupations.

>>163627

I am not a NEET projecting chamar lmao. But even NEETs in Lundia are a more economic positive than your average chamar kek. At least they don't get in institutions unqualified and ruin it to the ground like you chamars kek.

>>163631

This thread opened with the claim that you chamars can do something like OP if you were 'only allowed to dream'.

Yet when you were allowed to, all you did was seethe about poomins lmao and make opppression literature lmao.

Not revolutionise soyience.

>>163625

>So you admit being a hypocrite? Kek.

I am literally suggesting a fair system for everyone. How is this hypocritical to make one community the same priveldges as other? Are you retarded?

>>163628

I just think you're honestly retarded to even lie sucha blatantly. Muh my grandfather was a drama artist earning tons but my mom was chaiwali. Lmak yr its funny

>>163635

>defending NEET

NEET spotted. Take the rope

>>163617

You can what?

>don't let them secure the position with 15% reservation at help.

The onus is on them, not me.

>>163616

Kek, this

>>163640

I called you a hypocrite because you admitted to being a pot that is a chamar who keeps moving goalposts kek. I don't care about your stupid revenge fantasy against poomins.

>drama artist earning tons

Never said that kek. You seems to be not only retarded but illiterate. Did you pass school with 40% grade for the average chamar kek.

>my mom

I said my grandmom

Memes write themselves lmao.

>>163639

>OP if you were 'only allowed to dream'. Yet when you were allowed to, all you did was seethe about poomins lmao and make opppression literature lmao.

And i am suggesting a final conclusion to this problem. Just make the both go through the same thing and see the end results. Lets see how the oppreseed will perform under the same show of the systematic oppressor who took fucking 15% of reservatjkns. But now all you are doing is seething about "waah now i don't care about it"

>>163641

I just said they were just better than your average chamar, its defending them kek.

>>163642

>The onus is on them, not me.

Then let them do the talking as well. You can stop here.

>>163649

So I said conclusion to your proposal. If it takes 1000 years for your kind to be same level poomins, then no point of gettting rid of poomins under the promise that you chamars will do something kek.

Do you understand your own arguments lmao.

>>163651

The only talking they do is for increasing gibs. Not about trying to improve themselves to not rely on the benevolence of others.

>>163648

>I called you a hypocrite because you admitted to being a pot

>hahha you called me a doo doo you called yourself a doodoo actually you lose

Enough. I am not arguing to literal kids now

>>163648

>stupid revenge fantasy against poomins.

Its not a reveng fantasy retard. Its a an equal opportunity. You get to have 15% reservations. What more do you want?

>you seems to be not onlyretarded but illiterate.

I can never be more illiterate than chaiwalis offspring. Lmao its sad now

>>163614

>As the other anon said, let UCs undergo 1000 years of bl7e collar jobs then have 100 years of 15% reservations then we will see.

You will destroy this country lol. Will shudras chamars and bhangis be able to run this country for those 1000 years. Nighers thought the same and they destroyed south africa and detroit after they got to be in charge.

>>163650

A neet is better than no one. To suggest otherwise is being a neet

>>163655

Uhmm and? Only talking you do is of removing reservations and not about tryjng to improve things for everyone collectively. How is it bad when other is taking an opposite stand from you?

>>163658

OBC modi did a better job than Gandhi family

>>163656

>Enough

You never made a logically coherent argument to begin with.

Your incessant seething against poomins isn't an argument lmao.

>Equal oppurtunity

So just like now?

>I can never be more illiterate than chaiwalis offspring. Lmao its sad now

Yeah sure buddy. You do show your chamar education here kek.

>>163658

>You will destroy this country lol

But thats literally country did run

>>163658

>Will shudras chamars and bhangis be able to run this country for those 1000 years

Aren't most UCs according to UCs themselve weren't that priveldged and literate some gens ago? If they can run the country as collectively them i don't see problems in shudra running the country. Not to mentions it was the mughals and british to make the actual institutions out of kings economy

>>163659

They are simply better than chamars by their own inaction by doing nothing lmao. At least they don't get in institutions unqualified and corrupt them to the core kek.

A sloth is better than a leech.

>>163661

>improve things for everyone collectively.

No one needs to do this. They just need to not hurt others while trying to improve things for themselves.

Again, you still haven't told how I get any gibs from giving people reservations.

>>163666

>So just like now?

No. When you get the 15% reservation. Complete fairness

>You do show your chamar education here kek.

Still more educated than a chaiwalis grandchilds. Irl, our family won't even get in contact with somebody whose family did such work.

>incessant seething

Not even a seethe but would be still 1000x less seethe than avg reservation seether.

>>163675

>>improve things for everyone collectively.

>No one needs to do this

....

>They just need to not hurt others while trying to improve things for themselves.

But it would be thinking about others collectively. You contradicted your statement in the second statement.

>>163678

>No. When you get the 15% reservation. Complete fairness

So just like now? So what is stopping you chamars then kek?

Where are your intellectuals like OP?

>Still more educated than a chaiwalis grandchilds

Sure you are lmao.

>Not even a seethe but would be still 1000x less seethe than avg reservation seether

At least they seethe about something happening to them instead of chamars who seethe about their great great great grandfather being made to work for a poomin lmao.

>>163669

>uc weren't that priveldged and literate some gens ago?

Who said that? Thats not true. Yeah the women were often illiterate but the british raj bureaucracy was run by UC men mostly. Also most freedom activists were UCs and later the naxal leaders would also be UC males mostly. Leadership roles are always filled by high iq people which is why most soviet leaders came from affluent families who had embraced the ideology on a personal level.

>>163675

>Again, you still haven't told how I get any gibs from giving people reservations.

I told literally here >>163490 you will get direct reservations. And if you're asking for current system, its so simple but i will make it even simpler for you.

>A poor community's upliftment is a net good for everyone. The uplifted ones offsprings get better. They move to better profession and take part in larger economy as an individual. There would be more capable people than just majdoor skills in a time

And i don't need to explain how a country of more white collar profession capable population is better than a country with more blue collar professon capable population. Do i need to tho?

>>163689

>>uc weren't that priveldged and literate some gens ago?

>Who said that? Thats not true.

And now you have problem that a community is getting extra priveldges to move themselve out of poverty

>>163681

No, I didn't. I don't think of others as a member of a community, I think of them as an individual. Only you inferiority complex over caste can make you not understand that.

>>163402(OP)

> Carl Friedrich Gauss

> child prodigy

> local teachers pitched his genius to duke

> Duke sponsors all education

> literally taught by a Royal Society Mathematician

but the retarded thread on bhch proceeds to

> generalise to avg indian what a genius child prodigy achieved

> completely ignore all the support he got

> "anyone can do it saaars, faustian spirit saars"

> "he did it without any gibsmedat saaaars"

it's obvious what the outcome would be had he born in jeetland, not hating, but you know it too. There are too many people to nurture a single guy + I bet your local politician gunda would sponsor him kek

> no saaars it was cuz le uc lc reeeeeeeeeee

absolute

>>163693

>I don't think of others as a member of a community, I think of them as an individual.

Not him but thats a position from privilege kek. Your average chamar and woman don't think that way, only UC men do and thats why they have been taking one L after another for the last few centuries.

>>163684

>Where are your intellectuals like OP?

At the same place where the UC intellectuals are like OP despite centuries long priveldge as stated here >>163689. But you aren't ready for that.

>Sure you are lmao.

More qualified to say that than a chaiwalis grandchild

>At least they seethe about something happening to them instead of chamars who seethe about their great great great grandfather being made to work for a poomin lmao

Yes pajeet. You do realise you have right to fight cases of your parents even after their demises and aks the court to make another party pay for damages and compensation?

Obviously no, kek, you're a chaiwalis grandchild after all. Not even the 2 posts and i am proven right.

>>163698

Nvm I read that wrong.

>>163693

>No, I didn't. I don't think of others as a member of a community, I think of them as an individual. Only you inferiority complex over caste can make you not understand that.

Inferiority complex? Coming from someone who seethes 24x7 and names themsleve "systematically oppressed" because some poorfags got extra help? Lmao even.

Move aside that. You still haven't replied about why should reserved think about nonreserved when you yourselve don't believe in "caring for others". Are you not even gonna give an explanation for the contradiction?

Ok bhachcels seethers. See you later. I hope you all clear out your own standings, contradictions and goalpost by then. Like retards, atleast know yourself what you want and what is your primary logic behind that. Stop changing goalposts every second post and contradicting yourself.

>>163703

>At the same place where the UC intellectuals are like OP

At least poomins have boson. The only winners of nobel soyience from lundia are poomins(specifically dumeel poomins).

Funnily enough Dumeel Nadu is exactly a case of your revenge fantasy, where poomins have been systematically thrown out of their institution kek with up to 50% rejerbashuns kek. Yet they remain the only pajeet type in the entire world to do something kek.

>More qualified to say that than a chaiwalis grandchild

Whatever that helps float your boat lmao

>You do realise you have right to fight cases of your parents

Yeah bro, the reason why you are still a chamar seething against poomins is because your great great great grandfather was working in the garden of a poomin bro.

😴

You all are annoying and funny. More funny than annoyinh. Not for any retarded shit like reservation seethe or caste shenanigans. For not having clear standing on your own statement.

>>163719

>makes a thread claiming son of a european janny revolutionizing soyience

>when asked why his kind was not able to do it seethes about one gorillion years oppresun the reason

>noooo its not me who is logically incoherent, its you

Peak chamar education kek.

>>163721

Arey chamar, please read you own statements and understandd the logical conclusions of your own arguments

>>163720

>The only winners of nobel soyience from lundia are poomins

Out of how many million poomins? But wait, now your exceptions are to be taken generally. +1

>>163720

>Funnily enough Dumeel Nadu is exactly a case of your revenge fantasy, where poomins have been systematically thrown out of their institution kek with up to 50% rejerbashuns kek. Yet they remain the only pajeet type in the entire world to do something kek

Out of how many millions again?

>>163720

>Whatever that helps float your boat lmao

Lmao retard. You showed your literacy already. Don't fight the allegations now..

>>163720

>Yeah bro, the reason why you are still a chamar seething against poomins is because your great great great grandfather was working in the garden of a poomin bro.

>Saar my pooming grandfather was nautanki baaz and my grandmother poomin was chaiwali poor as fuck saar

>But also poomin had gardens and shudras worked in them

Not even the next post and the ironic retardism stands out again. Not even funny now

>>163716

Yes. Inferiority complex. It isn't enough for you for your group to do well, you also want to see the group you're seething about to fail.

>Poorfags got helped

This isn't about class, it's about caste. Don't pretend it's the same thing.

>why should reserved think about nonreserved

Because an unqualified reserved candidate comes at the cost of someone more qualified missing out.

You don't need for care for others in the sense you have to benifit others to your harm, you just don't hurt others for your benifit.

It's not that hard to understand. If you try enough you can.

And whatever happened to you claim that UC gets gibs from the reserved, huh?

>>163722

>>makes a thread

Stop being a schizo retard now. I didn't make this thread and i already told it above

>>163723

>please read you own statements and understandd the logical conclusions of your own arguments

There isn't a single flaw in my statements and replies but keep acting that adding a emoji makes your post worth anything more than chaiwala illiteracy

>>163725

>Out of how many million poomins

At least they are there kek. 2 or 3 out a million is still better than 0 out of a million kek.

>You showed your literacy already. Don't fight the allegations now..

Says the chamar who read it as my mom kek.

>my poomin grandpa

I never said I was poomin chamar kek.

>Not even funny now

I was never trying to be funny chamar.

>>163728

>There isn't a single flaw in my statements

Sure there isn't lmao, my mistake to expect a chamar to make any logically coherent argument other than seethe incoherently lmao.

>>163741

No, you see sir, all peepul need to revolutionize soyience is to not let your grandpa do white collar work saar.

>>163726

>Because an unqualified reserved candidate comes at the cost of someone more qualified missing out

But pajeet, for the 3rd time, why should they think about the other whatever more qualified by 2% more marks when you yourself doesn't care about somebody less priveldged than you by 40%? Why should they care. You don't care for others. Others should have to for you.

>waah care about me but i won't about youu waah why? Because i sad soo what more

>This isn't about class, it's about caste.

Take a setback and go read why caste based reservations exist and not individual. Go read back and the come.

>you have to benifit others to your harm, you just don't hurt others for your benifit.

You think that things comes from air? Just make it from air and enjoy so nobody gets less? Lmao even. 5 yr old kids knows better

>>163692

>And now you have problem that a community is getting extra priveldges to move themselve out of poverty.

Yes i have a problem with low iq masses complaining about overrepresentation of UCs who are genetically high iq and using it as evidence of discrimination and demanding gibs. Privilege is earned not given. The same UCs whose success you attribute to 'privilege' have become a successful model minority in the west. Did the privilege magically appear there as well. If you count genetic high iq as privilege then they are indeed privileged but then there is no point in whining about your state. Blame genetics. What have reservations done except for destroying this country in name of equality.

>>163741

>Why is it so hard for you to understand the IQ bell curve

Why is it so hard for you that no gigasmart UC is losing anythjng by reservation? Such 1 of millions talented individual don't get holded back by reservations. But please, go on about how reservations are damaging tha one in million talent that actually makes change.

>>163748

>somebody less priveldged than you by 40%?

What is the 'privilege' they are missing? Their father not doing a white collar job? Not having enough economic oppurtunities to teach them?

Wouldn't the logical endpoint of that then be economic and individual based reservations and not caste based one?

>Go read

I did. Bhimbedkar thought it was only needed for 20 years.

>You think that things comes from air? Just make it from air and enjoy so nobody gets less

Again you fail to realize the logical conclusions of your own arguments lmao.

>>163756

Reservations are bad because it enables people who are unqualified in, not people who are not qualified and rot these institutions from the core because the only reason they reached where they are is due to priviledge of their birth.

Once again you failed to read his post and how only corrupt and rich LCs are benefitted from reservations.

>>163750

>complaining about overrepresentation of UCs who are genetically high iq and using it as evidence of discrimination and demanding gibs.

So high iq yet can't comprehend how reservations help improving the poverty. Lmao

>Blame genetics.

Blame yourself that reservations exist. Theres a reason why it was made compared to normal affirmative actions

>reservations done except for destroying this country in name of equality.

Lmao even. Holy kek. Actual fucking retards now

>equality

Imao even.

>The same UCs whose success you attribute to 'privilege' have become a successful model minority in the west.

Stop riding the UCs who were actual high iq enough to migrate. They are just as far from you than anybody from this country.

>>163748

I suppose I expected too much for a parasite living off the generousity of others to be able to comprehend the difference between don't hurt others vs focusing on youself.

At the end, you still can't even prove how anyone gets any gibs from you people. You can cope about it with your 2% and 40%, it means nothing. You only sound like the we wuzzing n1ggers you chamars initiate.