[yes i have posted this in /pol/ too]

can someone help me identify my caste?

i ve been always confused bout my caste my father always said we are kshatriya and my dadi used to say we are rajputs.

all of my bua's were married into thakurs, however my mum was a ahir before marriage and my tai was a khatri.

we use kashyap surname and my gotra is also kashyap but my tau also uses katariya surname.

i just wanna know if i am a rajput or not or any other caste.

I am genuinely confused and not looking for trollers lmk if you can help

>>248055(OP)

>all of my bua's were married into thakurs, however my mum was a ahir before marriage and my tai was a khatri.

Hoy shitshow. Are you richfags or something

>we use kashyap surname and my gotra is also kashyap but my tau also uses katariya surname.

You are a dalit. Katariya is a chamar surname.

Kek yaar. Brutal for you. Your famiy was probaby katariyas who married into ahirs and then trying in thakurs now to uplift themselve to kshatriya status. Brutal. Being a chamar is more respectable to me.

>>248070

Mystery unraveled.

>>248070

katariya is used by jats, rajputs, sainis also faggot.we are not richfags

>>248055(OP)

Your state and mothertongue?

>>248089

delhi, my village is in sardhana, meerut.

we speak normal hindi

>>248085

No they are not. They are probably another larper families like yours. I know because i have grown up in haryana with castiest friends

>>248092

>meerut

Yeah. I am correct.

just post a pic of your grandfather

>>248112

dekhle brother ask anyone, katariya is a jat surname.

friendly reminder, this is the future and dehatis are dilating knowing this.

>>248120

cant doxx lik dat bruh, and how can you even tell anybody's caste by his looks???

>>248055(OP)

You are a mutt

>>248130

>wiki page

Ngmi

>>248141

(by the way I am a nigger)

>>248142

https://www.jatland.com/home/Kataria

you can search on jewtube as well bout katariya jats

you sure you are not? Seems highly likely because apart from Rajputs every other caste you mentioned is OBC

>>248218

i can't say im confused

bump yar jeets

>>248055(OP)

Varna sankar most probably

>>248242

I have already given you the most appropriate answer on /pol/. Nobody here knows better than me about such stuff. No point in asking further.

>>248247

not probably. Its definitely. His mom is Yadav his Dad is Kataria.

>>248249

you are the one asking for my grandpops pic?

>>248251

His father was a rajput of kashyap gotra, all of his buas marrying thakurs is a proof of that. Op's father did ICM, so op is a product of varnasankar

>>248251

>his Dad is Kataria

my tau uses katariya surname not my dad nor my grandpa. and i do not know why he uses dat title

>>248259

What was your paternal grandmother's surname before marriage?

>>248253

yes

>>248258

Kataria is not a rajput surname

>>248259

what surname does you grandpa use ?

>>248258

>His father was a rajput of kashyap gotra

He's alive nīgga, dont kill him lik dat kek

>op is a product of varnasankar

i read being a varnasankar is a bad thing? is it true?

But one this is 100% confirmed, OP is a varna sankar product snce his mom is of a different caste

>>248260

don't know, she used devi after marriage tho

>>248262

Kashyap

>>248264

your situation is not bad its worse. There are so many ICMs in your family. Wtf is even going on there. Its not expected from a Merrut based family.

>>248266

is it a bad thing?

>>248266

West up ahirs are kshatriyas tho

>>248264

I said was since after doing varna sankar, people lose their varna status. And varna sankar products aren't even considered hindus.

>>248268

Its a surname alloted to those people who don't know about their origins. Your great grandfather could also be a rapechild of some landlord of that village. Thats why I asked you to post your grandfather, just blur his eyes. I can tell so many things by just looking at his face.

>>248271

no, ahirs are ahirs everywhere.

>>248055(OP)

What state are you from?

>>248270

It wont affect you in anyway since varna identity aren't enforced properly these days, even children of varna sankar inherit varna of one of their parent's these days

and How tf is your tai a Khatri ? whats her surname ? Its very unlikely for khatris to do ICMs with poor people.

>>248278

delhi

>>248276

Then why do they look different everywhere

>>248278

Merrut, migrate to delhi.

>>248285

different sub-gotras. They are mixing up because Yadav Mahasabha want a pan-India yadav unity for greater political goals.

>>248283

how would ik her surname before marriage? she herself told me once dat she is a punjabi khatri.

we are not poor kek we are UMC.

But why tf did his tau not inherit his grandpa's surname, ts doesn't even make sense

>>248291

>UMC

how much land does your grandfather have ?

>>248274

can't you just tell me what to look for in his looks?

>>248293

definitely not a Jat trait.

>>248294

we used too. they sold it way before migrating for just 500rs.

>>248293

maybe because he did not have a good relationship with him? I have just heard bout it not sure

>>248295

so many things. just post cropped area of nose, canthal zones, jaws, forehead, eyebrows.

>>248296

Does any caste do that? Maybe OP's familial surname was katariya all along and his grandfather started using their gotra as the surname (not uncommon since these days gotra identities are considered more important to pass down)

>>248298

that doesn't happen. Nobody sells 50 bigha for 500. Thats absurd and completely unbeleivable.

>>248302

I think your familial surname was katariya all along, why else would your uncle specifically choose that surname?

>>248304

>since these days gotra identities are considered more important to pass down

I don't think so. People are forgetting about gotras nowadays but thats another discussion.

>Maybe OP's familial surname was katariya all along

he should ask his father the surnname of his great-grandfather.

>>248306

his brother sold dat land without telling anyone. These things happen bro just cus it hasnt happened in your fam doest mean it does not exist

>>248307

yea ig too. my cousin sister(his daughter) told me that everyone knows him by katariya ji in his field of work

>>248307

SCs usually change surnames every generation. Many OBCs change surnames on the advie of friends and relatives as well.

My own father's surname is different from that of my 6 generational ancestors. Fortunately I have the same surname as my older ancestors.

>>248313

thats because he has used that surname during his lifetime

I am now also considering the possibility if op's tais married actual thakurs or larping thakurs. Since many non rajputs use rajput surnames these days.

>>248309

I can't say but Jats generally don't sell their entire lands for settling in cities.

In which part of delhi do you live ?

>>248316

Yeah in Delhi Khatris happily marry their daughters to Thakurs and Brahmins.

>>248314

I see

>>248308

>I don't think so. People are forgetting about gotras nowadays but thats another discussion.

I am not sure but I have seen more people to use gotra as surname nowadays like vats, bhardwaj,etc

>he should ask his father the surnname of his great-grandfather.

Okay, I will. Ik his name tho it was Kishan lal, alr told ya dat he was in the fauj

>>248322

>Kishan lal

>lal

thats a neutral name, very unlikely to be a Jat tho.

You are not a Jat Kataria most probably.

>>248322

What's your vansh? IIRC for rajputs, vansh is considered a more important identity than gotra.

>>248319

>I can't say but Jats generally don't sell their entire lands for settling in cities.

i am clearing again that my grandpa did not sold the land. His brother sold it without telling anyone bout it.

>In which part of delhi do you live ?

first we used to live in government alloted colonies because my grandma was a nurse in a gov hospital then we shifted to north delhi, in the burari region. My grandpa bought land here 100gaj back in the 90s.

>>248325

it's just a mid name. ofc there's a surname after dat

>>248055(OP)

As absurd as this may sound, you should unironically post this on r/rajputana. If your dad is a real rajput, they would be able to tell that from your details.

>>248333

you should ask your Dad or Grandpa about more details.

Also stop doing ICM's and marry within Yadavs from now onwards.

>>248334

posted it way before here. my posts were getting locked so didn't got any help

>>248334

they can't, he lacks details.

>>248335

>you should ask your Dad or Grandpa about more details.

my grandpa is dead.

>Also stop doing ICM's and marry within Yadavs from now onwards.

kek bruh cmon its 2025

>>248338

ask your dad. You don't have enough detalis despite you being so interested.

You seem more like a larper now.

>>248335

>>248337

so what's your theory on him? What do u think he is?

>>248340

>ask your dad. You don't have enough detalis despite you being so interested.

can you tell me what I should ask?

>>248342

Ask him everything that was discussed in this thread. Ask him why so many ICMs in your family. Ask your mother and tai as well why did they married these men.

>>248344

can you make a list? pls?

>>248341

most likely an OBC of some sorts or a poor Jat who lost lost his identity. Poor Jats in haryana marry women from Kerala and other states.

>>248346

read the entire convo from top to bottom.

>>248346

Your vansh and clan are most important like what kind of clan he belong like siyodiya,kachawa,rathore,nikumbh etc.

>>248353

he doesn't know anything about it. It is not a Rajput. Most castes in NCR claim Kshatriya status. Even tyagis oscillate b/w Brahmin and Kshatriya status.

>>248349

hmm

>>248346

One more thing i have to tell.

Once my father told me that our ancestors were archers and we even had bows in our home before they got lost during migration(sorry for not telling this earlier)

and yeah, we also have two daggers in our home

one that is from my father's wedding it is kept wrapped in a kalawa and other one is very old ig, rusted and kept unnoticed.

and in my family we also do yagyopavit during marriage

>>248352

>qti pi imoutos

huh?

>>248359

>yagyopavit during marriage

what ?

look mate, so far it seems that your are either one of these >>248349 or your family is a unique case of a very hardcore sanskritization by your dalit great grandfather but thats a bit unlikely.

>>248363

its just janeu

And also do u know about your kul devi/devta?

>>248369

I know what it is. I was just surprised that an ICM doing family is doing that ritual.

>>248363

>your family is a unique case of a very hardcore sanskritization by your dalit great grandfather

it is unlikely. even i have ruled this possibility out.

Because i dont think so that a very hardcore sanskritization happens in only one or two gens

>>248370

he doesn't even know his gotra. Are you gobba ask him his haplogroup next ? be sensible.

>>248371

See what this anon said>>248281

varna identities aren't properly inforced thesw days.

>>248373

Kek, you're right

>>248370

Our kuldevta is some local gram devta known as prasadi baba. Our kuldevi is Chourahe wali mata, Gurgaon

>>248372

you seem to be larping.

>very hardcore sanskritization happens in only one or two gens

>kek bruh cmon its 2025

you are giving answers of very a person speaking from completely different perspectives.

I won't entertain any further of your posts untill you post a pic of your grandpa with timestamp.

Mods dalit this thread

>>248373

I already told you my gotra bruh?

>>248377

larp