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Eg2hCP
No.278180
Literally me after reading a threadwa on bhach. Ignore the caps
cYfwQg
No.278181
>>278180(OP)
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aQHT8w
No.278185
Isn't this common knowledge?
LtDoKM
No.278188
>>278180(OP)
brvtal reality. what's the name of this movie btw? i'll check this out. i remember it came out when i was in 9th or 10th ig
LtDoKM
No.278190
>>278188
>what's the name of this movie btw?
found it. it's indeed came out when i was in 10th. i'll watch it tonight
Y/WqIw
No.278191
>>278188
article 14
aQHT8w
No.278192
>>278188
article 15
Eg2hCP
No.278193
>>278185
I don't think so, not at all common in rich households I guess? I had never been taught about castes my entire life thanks to my mom for not spewing bullcraps when I was a kid.
Y/WqIw
No.278195
Y/WqIw
No.278200
waise Kayastha Shudra maane jaate hain. Lekin inka economic status accha hai isiliye koyi himmat nahi karta inke claims jhuthlaane ki.
Jaise aaj Yadavs ko badnaam kiya jaa rha hai waise future mein jab Yadav ameer ho jaenge tab woh bhi Kshatriya statues claim karenge, tab kisi ki himmat nhi padegi unke claims jhuthlaane ki.
aQHT8w
No.278202
>>278193
Good 4 you
Y/WqIw
No.278203
>>278200
jaise Jaato ke muh pe unhein koyi Shudra nahi bol sakta
Y/WqIw
No.278209
>>278193
kiski ke ghar mein nahi bataate. Hindu toh religion ke baare mein bhi nahi bataate. Bas rituals karte rehte hain jo har generation decrease hoti jaati hain.
TDuRzm
No.278212
>>278180(OP)
GO BACK TO LIBRANDU
bXlpxQ
No.278213
>bharatchan is a honeypot stop posting on bharatchan before it is too late
(Scat Poster / Spammer)
TDuRzm
No.278218
>>278203
Your caste?
9ROCgJ
No.278222
RV8XuX
No.278223
>bharatchan is a honeypot
>stop posting on bharatchan before it is too late
(Scat spammer / Necrobumper)
qHQUCG
No.278229
TDuRzm
No.278231
>>278229
Are you retarted? How can i be a bhimta?
1BA8SV
No.278417
>>278231
Kek bhimta in shambles
iQey6V
No.278424
>>278200
wese toh yha pa Khatri log bhi apne ap ko dwija samajh te hai, they are rich so people let it pass, warna yeh toh Shudra se bhi niche hai
IRCbi5
No.278430
>>278180(OP)
You are a retard if you think all humans are equal
rabiUk
No.278440
>>278180(OP)
Yrr how can he become ips without studying indian polity and history and without knowledge of castes. They can't even make something which is already true believable.
L8woTY
No.278441
>>278193
I wasnt taught either but i learned on my own. Those interested in history and society of india or those just inquisitive in general will end up researching the topic on their own like i did.
L8woTY
No.278445
>>278424
Khatris are UCs in punjab. They are a mercantile community.
L8woTY
No.278448
>>278440
I was wondering the same when i first watched the movie.
IRCbi5
No.278451
>>278441
I got to know about caste only because of reservation, pretty ironic, my family is really liberal and they never mentioned about caste, i still dont know about my gotra and kuldevta, my parents refuse to talk about it, i myself tracked my caste by my surname, raised as a liberal and here i am a full blown jaatiwadi
Hope other liberal uppercaste kids become like me too
L8woTY
No.278457
>>278200
>Kayastha Shudra maane jaate hain.
I dont think they are shudras. Its a later created caste, appearing long after the varna system came into being which is likely why their position in varna system is ambiguous. They probably emerged as a distinct caste in indian history when bureaucracy grew too large to be run by brahmin ministers alone.
L8woTY
No.278462
>>278451
Its usually upper caste folks who lack caste consciousness and are too liberal. A natural consequence of being too vested in intellectual pursuits. Shudras and dalits are the most caste conscious, shudras in a positive proud way and dalits with feelings of insecurity and embarrassment. Tho the intellectual brain of some UCs can also lead them to go further down the rabbit hole and discover iq sciences and eugenics that can radicalise them, like it happened for me. So its a double edged sword.
iQey6V
No.278466
>>278445
kek , Khatri are considered shudra in Jammu
oATiJ9
No.278468
>>278424
khatri's origin isn't that well documented. Varna system has not been implemented properly sadly
L8woTY
No.278471
>>278466
Are they? I thought they would be similar to mahajans in status.
9ROCgJ
No.278472
>>278466
>shudra in Jammu
not a flex considering jammu is a muslim state and hindu systems mean jack
9BVybZ
No.278473
>>278462
>Its usually upper caste folks who lack caste consciousness and are too liberal
Brutal truth
>Shudras and dalits are the most caste conscious, shudras in a positive proud way and dalits with feelings of insecurity and embarrassment. T
Fact they wanna hide
>Tho the intellectual brain of some UCs can also lead them to go further down the rabbit hole and discover iq sciences and eugenics that can radicalise them, like it happened for me.
Same happened with me
9BVybZ
No.278476
>>278472
Jammu is hindu majority, i dont think its true, khatris are high caste in punjab, and there are few migrants in my region and they do assimilate well with other uppercaste
LL2H2J
No.278477
>>278473
>Tho the intellectual brain of some UCs can also lead them to go further down the rabbit hole and discover iq sciences and eugenics that can radicalise them, like it happened for me.
>Same happened with me
So , what are your conclusions after exploring the rabbit hole?
oATiJ9
No.278480
>>278476
Khatris are migrants everywhere
9BVybZ
No.278485
>>278477
Few castes are superior then others, by superior i mean they have better pheno, geno, iq, eq, culture, history compared to rest of population
LL2H2J
No.278488
>>278485
Where on your spectrum does my caste resides? Give reasoning
9BVybZ
No.278489
>>278200
Varna system is old and incompetent with present times, not a single caste have definite position
9BVybZ
No.278490
>>278488
Jaat ?
LL2H2J
No.278491
>>278490
yes
uYRqF4
No.278492
>caste kanging in a subtle anti-caste kanging thread
okay i am done for today from bhach
good night anans
9BVybZ
No.278496
>>278491
My region dont have any significant jaat population, the only jaat guy i know was polar opposite of stereotypes i heard, he was naive & nerdy
Jaats are honorary aryans, pretty dominant community, only thing is lack of historic achievements
9BVybZ
No.278499
>>278492
Your whole religion is based on casteism jainiye
JRjcFe
No.278500
>>278496
>only thing is lack of historic achievements
Oh no, ananwa did add 60+ replies in this thread
9BVybZ
No.278501
>>278500
I just pointed out the truth, they have great geno, decent achievements in present time, but they lack history, a tribe of 40 million + people, three different religions, you have only 2 significant kingdoms ( sikh empire and bharatpur kingdom, even its controversial that ranjit singh was jaat )
L8woTY
No.278502
>>278477
1. Group differences in intelligence, temperament and other biological qualities are real.
2. Affirmative action is a futile destructive policy, a consequence of the religion known as egalitarianism.
3. Lineage matters when it comes to spouse selection. No matter how good the individual is, if he is an outlier in his family or community, you risk inferior progeny due to regression towards the mean.
4. Our reality is all based on existence and propagation of genes. Not just us as individuals but entire groups, society, nations and world order are a consequence of genes.
41KSJZ
No.278504
>>278180(OP)
>Mai CHAMAR hu, aur Ye PASI hai
>Hum log inse kafi uppar aate hai
I would quote dwivedi ji again, but honestly very based chamars kek. Also Saryuparin are also a sub clad of Kanyakubja kek, literally the same geno. Par log nahi manege keku. Bas yahi ek scene accha tha yaar.
41KSJZ
No.278507
>>278200
>waise Kayastha Shudra maane jaate hain.
Technically some of them would be even lower than that while some would be much higher than them. A lot of Kayastha family started as Varna Sankar's while rest started as different Varnas mergini into one due to working in the line of a scribe.
41KSJZ
No.278510
>>278203
>jaise Jaato ke muh pe unhein koyi Shudra nahi bol sakta
Mai bol sakta hu kek, woh bura nahi maante, jat are jat. People need to understand not all sudra are lineage based Shudras. Jaat are Vritya by the law of Manusmriti and even in scriptures before them. They simply conflated into ethnic caste over Varna based one that led to them becoming jaats as we know today. It is on a theoretical level for entire jat community to take Kshatriya status, but the amount of bullshit it will take is what makes us Bamans look the other way, Jaat sare Jaat hai, that is it kekek.
9BVybZ
No.278515
>>278510
Is it true that Khatris are treated like Shudras in Jammu
sOclrG
No.278517
>>278504
Haggu Jammu ghumne chala gaya, KEKU KEKU
41KSJZ
No.278519
>>278424
>wese toh yha pa Khatri log bhi apne ap ko dwija samajh te hai, they are rich so people let it pass, warna yeh toh Shudra se bhi niche hai
The thing is they "used" to be Dwijas but they are prominently made up of two castes that is mahisa and mudravashikta, which does come far below Sudra. Khatris did start as Kshatriya in the initial phase but they are actually pretty low as far as theology is considered due to none of them being pure blooded.
41KSJZ
No.278520
>>278517
>Is it true that Khatris are treated like Shudras in Jammu
Kek
>>278515
>Is it true that Khatris are treated like Shudras in Jammu
Lund se, lmao, khatri chaud me rehte hai, but the pure upper caste tend to avoid marriage with them. The most common marriage take place between Arora and Khatris
41KSJZ
No.278521
>>278451
>and here i am a full blown jaatiwadi
First gen Manuvadi, we don't get many of those, let's raise next gen of much more radicalised and broatul manuvadis saar 
41KSJZ
No.278523
>>278457
>They probably emerged as a distinct caste in indian history when bureaucracy grew too large to be run by brahmin ministers alone.
Yes and no, the thing is unlike other castes the Kayastha class was strictly made up of different groups that were good at work of scripts as far as logic can deduce.
The theology behind this is extremely shady and complicated to be honest. However the original classes of Kayatha (be whichever they may be, perhaps Kaivarta) proceed to absorb different Varna Sankar's in their group.
L8woTY
No.278526
>>278515
I am hearing this for the first time. Khatris have always seemed to be adjacent to jammu Mahajans in status and occupation to me.
JRjcFe
No.278528
41KSJZ
No.278529
>>278462
>Tho the intellectual brain of some UCs can also lead them to go further down the rabbit hole and discover iq sciences and eugenics that can radicalise them, like it happened for me. So its a double edged sword.
It's not you saar, happened to a lot of us, i had an arc of liberal, to radical to liberal to radical again kek.
>>278468
Well its not undocumented either, a lot of the texts by Saraswat Bamans do clarify that they did start as "Kshatriya", but it was basically the mixed marriage night noggery where they all stoped being considered one.
9BVybZ
No.278532
>>278521
Manuvad is old concept we need to reform casteism , government and Brits pretty much did the needful, General category and dominant OBC hindus are present day equivalent of Dwijas
41KSJZ
No.278535
>>278528
>Pasi kya hote hai?
A dalit group, Avarnia that is found in east up and Bihar region. Were known for working alcohol but no definitive history.
9BVybZ
No.278536
>>278520
>Lund se, lmao, khatri chaud me rehte hai,
Tumhare hi land mai ?
>but the pure upper caste tend to avoid marriage with them.
ICM is rare even among uppercastes
41KSJZ
No.278548
>>278488
>Where on your spectrum does my caste resides? Give reasoning
120 IQ yaar you mog like 90% of bhach kekek.
>>278489
Varna system is not what is incompetent, what is incompetent is us Brahmans who didn't bother polishing it. UC, OBC, SC are retarded and have zero to no tally with theological or generic value to it. But I don't want to go on entire tangent on it this late at night yaara.
STELpd
No.278551
>>278510
>Khatri shudra
>jaat shudra
According to what ive read read here everybody is either shudra or dalit expect brahmins, baniya and kayasths
I am glad bamans chose their high aasi brothers for eugenics.
All baniyas score 50 aasi more than up chamar and kayasths also score like baniya ranging from 45-50 .
All brahmins had to was genetics but they are digging their own grave , go on marry wothin these castes your aasi which is still high will become more high.
Brahmins had one job for eugenics and they failed in that too.
you are truly the jews of India.
41KSJZ
No.278554
>>278496
>Jaats are honorary aryans, pretty dominant community, only thing is lack of historic achievements
They are confirmed Aryans actually , as far as scriptures go, just saying. The only reason they are Shudra is also because of them choosing to be an ethnic caste of Varnaic caste. This is a lot similar to Gujjars.
>>278492
Sirs I saw an anti castiesm thread and i knew I had to be castiesm immediately, ye lo Dayoosh sirs, chocolate milk piyo.
STELpd
No.278558
9BVybZ
No.278563
>>278551
Rajasthani/Gujarati Baniyas are Zagros shifted, am seeing a lot of propaganda spread by insecure librandus that baniyas have high AASI, they think they can claim baniyas as their allies, just because baniyas dont have high aryan ancestry it doesnt mean that they are lowercaste, baniyas have high IVC ancestry
STELpd
No.278573
>>278563
Are retarted?
Have you seen how a baniya looks eg amit shah’s son that how avg baniya looks.
Never saw someone say tall and fair skinned baniya.
They all score above 40s aasi . And up ones and pther score even above up chamar like in 50s aasi. You cant fool me i have the sample .50s is their avg .
41KSJZ
No.278574
>>278532
>Brits pretty much did the needful, General category and dominant OBC hindus are present day equivalent of Dwijas
That's retarded and it changes by decade. I will not marry a dalit woman for simply due to her being rich. People need to understand even if we all take apart the theological and spiritual aspect of faith, then what we get is ossification of the Varna was complex.
Varna initially had ICM, but naturally certain kind of qualities manifested in three primary groups over time. These groups decided to marry within the said groups to make sure these traits stayed alive. ICM is actually rarer than most would think in reality.
The theory that I have in terms of theology is if saptarishi did descend then naturally they had to marry someone who clearly must have not been Brahmins. It means for a decent time period the 7 saints only married other Varnas till they ended up marrying with family of other saints and went not merging with other Varnas. Common sense would say this is what happened with nearly all Varnas in process.
>>278536
>Tumhare hi land mai ?
Even if you say that, Khatris I know here in the Jammu, are actually simpletons with relatively good nature. Kya ho bolna tab, they don't really cause anyone any troubles. However all the khatris in pakistan are pretty much lower than chamars, same goes for one abroad, they were the worst of the crop.
STELpd
No.278578
>>278574
Ye brahmin nahi ye koi mulla hai pakka 100%
9BVybZ
No.278581
9BVybZ
No.278583
>>278574
BSDK bina chatgpt use kare bol jo bolna hai
L8woTY
No.278584
>>278563
Besides, this idea that AASImaxxing 115+ iq baniyas will somehow make them allies of sub85 iq dalits is retarded. It stems from the misunderstanding in modern times that caste is primarily based on aasi admixture and not iq and social class.
xKnlcH
No.278588
>>278584
Baniyas aren't nearly close to having 115+ average, no Indian community is. I hope this is a joke. Ashkenazis are the most intelligent people on Earth and even they cap around 110-115 on average.
STELpd
No.278589
>>278581
I can show ms and mr india from every caste that too many times .
The thing is nobody care about these gazillion private fashion shows .
Every knows how avg baniya looks their autosomal also reflects similar results . I can share the samples.
You can cope vut reality wont change.
9BVybZ
No.278591
>>278584
Its their way of coping, they wants to prove that their genes arent inferior, i legit saw some chamar using baniyas in argument against baman buddhi, saying baniyas score more then brahmins, and these same chamars abuse baniyas
STELpd
No.278592
>>278584
The argument that caste is based on iq is flawed.
If caste based only on iq then why all castes then why all high castes high steppe too?
9BVybZ
No.278593
>>278589
The guptas in delhi dont represent actual baniyas, i know that aggarwals are ugly for uppercaste standards, but other subgroups found in western india have great pheno
41KSJZ
No.278594
>>278551
>According to what ive read read here everybody is either shudra or dalit expect brahmins, baniya and kayasths
The thing is not every Shudra is lineage based Shudras, like i said. Jatts did start as a ethnic group rather than singular varma. The ethnic group however dissolved in itself to give the Jatt caste. If had its own share of Kshatriyas, Vaishya and Shudras in them.
>I am glad bamans chose their high aasi brothers for eugenics.
>All baniyas score 50 aasi more than up chamar and kayasths also score like baniya ranging from 45-50 .
Even if the AASI quantity is being factored the truth is quantity of AASI doesn't exactly go on to determine UC of LC. My aasi would easily be much lower than 20 but that isn't what makes me a UC, what makes me a UC as baman is the haplogroup despite the admix that may change for worse or better over time.
Think about it for a second, if a take a bhangi and he father's children with a Ukrainian woman and his kids do the same again, you will end up having more AASI than his following up entire bloodline. Does that mean he is suddenly some Dwija? No right? Do not misdirect your frustation in a difection, and do not conflated a look max of caste with its place in four Varnas. Both are very different things.
>All brahmins had to was genetics but they are digging their own grave , go on marry wothin these castes your aasi which is still high will become more high.
Yaar pajeet only literal chamars care about the AASI. If i cared about AASI reduction then i can just marry a gori mam i have known for many years now. However your little brain can not know how fucking complicated this is. Do not make it more complicated than it needs to be, let us Bamans solve it at our own pace.
>Brahmins had one job for eugenics and they failed in that too.
Haan Pajeet, tabhi tujhe ye sab samjhana pad raha hai.
>you are truly the jews of India.
Yaar gore chamar...
STELpd
No.278599
>>278591
Vaishyas are good at maths and stuff. While brahmins are intellectualy gifted . Kshtriyas can do all these things if they practise it . Saw one iq graph where iq was like this vaishyas>kshtriyas>brahmins>>>>shudras>>>>>dalits
41KSJZ
No.278600
>>278558
>Or dont you know superior past of kashmiri pandits?
Ye tu bol bhi kisse raha hai chamar, lmao. Wah yaar anamas.
L8woTY
No.278603
>>278588
There havent been any reliable studies on iq of indian castes. Tho based on my own interaction with aggarwal baniyas and their exceptional performance in academics, i estimate their avg iq to be around 110 to 115. They are the jews of india in terms of social niche and were likely subjected to similar selection pressures for higher iq that any community successfully engaged in commerce, banking would be subjected to.
41KSJZ
No.278607
>>278563
>baniyas have high AASI
Seriously this, where the fuck is this retardation coming from anyways? Vaishya tend to have the high IVC in ad mix, steppe aur AASI ke bih me bhi koi chiz hoti hai lmao.
>>278573
>Are retarted?
The jokes write themself.
>Have you seen how a baniya looks
Pheno ≠ geno, again, if I had to factor simply looks I would marry an Iranian or a Lithuanian woman, rather than marrying into the low borne parivar like you. You northie chamars need to get off your high horse yaar. The entire argument is flawed.
STELpd
No.278608
>>278594
>The thing is not every Shudra is lineage based Shudras, like i said.
It does , if it had not then brahmins wont score high steppe. No amount cope will solve this.
STELpd
No.278610
>>278594
>Even if the AASI quantity is being factored the truth is quantity of AASI doesn't exactly go on to determine UC of LC.
It does thats why brahmins score high steppe.
41KSJZ
No.278611
>>278578
>Ye brahmin nahi ye koi mulla hai pakka 100%
Holy fucking newfag, he doesn't know. Yaar iski gaand marunga mai, Dayoosh sirs kaise kaise navhijde aa rahe hai bhach pe, wtf.
41KSJZ
No.278612
>>278583
Padhna sikh le chamar, sab tere biradri ke nahi hai, kuch ko padhna likhna aata hai. Simply for the fact you happen to be retarded and can not fathom typing a coherent paragraph doesn't mean everyone is. Most chans work this way, since these are not bhangigram and jewtube comment, learn to read or get the fuck back to sewers you came from.
STELpd
No.278613
>>278594
>My aasi would easily be much lower than 20 but that isn't what makes me a UC
Either you are kamboj or either yoj are just blabbering anything too cope about your chamar community.
I will Dismantle your every retarded argument .
xKnlcH
No.278616
>>278603
That is a very tall claim, you do realize that Ashkenazis have at least 100+ noble laureates (80% of Jewish laureates are ashkenazis)?
41KSJZ
No.278617
>>278613
>Either you are kamboj or either yoj are just blabbering anything too cope about your chamar community.
>I will Dismantle your every retarded argument .
Yaar sudharja chamar, abhi bhi samjha raha hu, we literally had another retarded so this last month. Also no I am not the Shudras that you mentioned, lurk moar faggot
xKnlcH
No.278619
>>278616
With a smaller population than Baniyas
41KSJZ
No.278620
>>278608
>It does , if it had not then brahmins wont score high steppe. No amount cope will solve this.
Read again retard, padh isbar, isiliye tum chutiyo ko padhne nahi dete the. Learn to fucking read before you decide to prove how inbred the lack of gotra system made you faggots.
STELpd
No.278621
>>278594
>Yaar pajeet only literal chamars care about the AASI
Everybody cares thats why they are so endogamous , dont spread your chamar smug icm propaganda here .
I come from a community that score assi in early 20s thats why i care.
L8woTY
No.278623
>>278592
>then why all high castes high steppe too?
It could be that steppe had higher iq on average and their overrepresentation in UCs is simply the ''natural consequence'' of that. Besides, it isnt a hard and fast rule. The pattern is inconsistent in northwest india (punjab, haryana etc) where shudra castes can be genetically identical to brahmins or even higher steppe than. Remember, the highest steppe caste rors and jats are shudras. Also AASI werent all low iq. Brahmins themselves carry significant aasi yet it doesnt drag down their iq. High iq AASI elites likely got assimilated in higher ranks in vedic civilization. Selection pressures also increase the iq of a group.
41KSJZ
No.278625
>>278610
>It does thats why brahmins score high steppe.
Yaar pajeet padh toh le kya likha hai, what is with this 12 year old rage and attention span? Ye sare navhijde ek jaise hote hai kya? Getting into an argument they have zero understanding of?
9BVybZ
No.278626
>>278616
Jaat anon spotted
9BVybZ
No.278629
>>278621
ICM is curse, marry in your own caste
Dalit have inferior genes, thats why they are the one who begs for ICM
41KSJZ
No.278630
>>278603
>i estimate their avg iq to be around 110 to 115.
This is really funny because Haryana Villager is Jatt and has 120 IQ mogging them all kekek. and I don't even dislike Vaishyas, lmao yaar, broatul hai ye toh.
xKnlcH
No.278632
>>278626
I have nothing again Baniyas but claiming that they have an average IQ lf 115+ is simply absurd. No community in India faced similar levels of selection pressure as Ashkenazis
9BVybZ
No.278634
>>278632
I was replying to other anon, who was doing steppe kanging
9BVybZ
No.278635
>>278632
Baniyas ( Actual ones ) are smartest in india only next to tamil brahmins
STELpd
No.278637
>>278594
>My aasi would easily be much lower than 20 but that isn't what makes me a UC, what makes me a UC as baman is the haplogroup despite the admix that may change for worse or better over time.
Understood , now let me dismantle the argument by just blabbering some random genetics word which you read on twitter or reddit
Haplogroups do determine whether you are uc or lc but Even in that brahmins are not superior .
Kashmiri gujjars have highest frequency of r1a that is 78% .
I have read research papers have you?
Most of brahmins mtdna (maternal dna) is M which is of local indigenous women .
You should thank god that father painbringer is not in this thread.
Seeing how smug i will be making threads now expaling how you fool others chamar.
L8woTY
No.278638
>>278616
Higher average iq doesnt always guarantee geniuses which is why east asians dont produce more geniuses than whites despite higher average iq. Wider distribution curve is far more responsible for producing geniuses. Asians have narrow distribution curve despite higher average.
41KSJZ
No.278639
>>278623
>It could be that steppe had higher iq on average and their overrepresentation in UCs is simply the ''natural consequence'' of that.
This was explained in past, but the caste system did exist on all sides and the high caste went on to marry into high caste and the low ones went on to marry into low ones. Rest of it you hit the nail with.
>Besides, it isnt a hard and fast rule. The pattern is inconsistent in northwest india (punjab, haryana etc) where shudra castes can be genetically identical to brahmins or even higher steppe than.
Like i said, steppe itself is not relevant to one being high borne or not. Your Y haplo and your lineage is. Not every steppe that did migrate would have been an highborne, and that is a thought that constantly skips people because people want confirmation rather than objective truth.
The sole reason i see this cess pool from lense of objectivity is because no matter what i do or say i will stay a Baman with nothing to prove that my ancestors have not already.
>Remember, the highest steppe caste rors and jats are shudras.
Again, while rors are infact Shudras, Jatts are Vritya and did start as Kshatriya. They simply ended up becoming their own thing. Which is why their are variation in Jaat families as well. Jaat being UC can also be tallied with them also having a Gotra system that generally Avarnia or Shudras (usually) tend to lack.
>Also AASI werent all low iq. Brahmins themselves carry significant aasi yet it doesnt drag down their iq.
Kashmiri Pandit boast easily upto 20 to 25% AASI but would intellectually mog lost rors. It is over simplification for people who are not good with genetics or theology that steppe = good, AASI bad and IVC apni pyari ma chudwae. Any baman worth his gotra will call that shit out instantly.
>High iq AASI elites likely got assimilated in higher ranks in vedic civilization. Selection pressures also increase the iq of a group.
Also this, specific traits and lineage is what is making a Brahman a Brahman. Yes you can say the steppe is over represented here but if one wants to simply raise steppe then you can go and marry a really attractive but retarded foid who is Ukrainian rapefugee.
That won't make you a Dwija. However it will do wonders for making you perhaps taller, and maybe give you some desirable feature, but you still would be the same Varna you are, if not even lower due to law of Dharma Sankar.
Bhachanners have a horrible habit of jumping to conclusions rather than asking those who may be more well versed in subject.
Ab ye thread yahi samapt karte hai mai chala silk song khelne, Atool Shubhratri anamases
hZFslU
No.278640
>>278424
khatri ka current status vaishya ho gya hai. Inhone Aroras aur Ahluwalias ke saath hadd se zyadaa race-mixing kar di hai.
Aroras Vaishyas hotay hain aur Ahluwalias Shudra hotay hain.
xKnlcH
No.278641
>>278638
There must be some East Asian groups with higher average IQs and a significant number of Nobel laureates too. I understand that the bell curve isn’t always distributed the same way across populations with similar mean IQs, but even then, you’d still expect a decent number of Nobel laureates.
xKnlcH
No.278643
Also The idea that higher AASI ancestry automatically means lower IQ is absurd. Many South Indian and Bengali castes with substantial AASI ancestry consistently outperform or match highly steppe-shifted North Indian groups in education and intellectual fields. Just putting this out there.
STELpd
No.278646
xKnlcH
No.278648
>>278643
Only selection pressure is relevant when determination mean IQ, Shudras weren't exposed to such pressure historically since pastoral and agrarian activities are usually very safe in a tropical country.
9BVybZ
No.278649
>>278643
>Also The idea that higher AASI ancestry automatically means lower IQ is absurd.
Chamar cope
41KSJZ
No.278650
>>278646
You are literally a low borne and your opinion doesn't mean shit to me. You are retarded to the point I am putting this in layman terms and you are failing to understand it. Their is a reason why low AASI chamar are still chamars.
STELpd
No.278651
>>278639
>Like i said, steppe itself is not relevant to one being high borne or not. Your Y haplo and your lineage is
Most of communites you mentioned have 95% west eurasian Y dna . Some even more than brahmins.
Interestingly bahmins mtdna is mostly m (local indegenious women) just like chamars.
JwSg6h
No.278652
>>278476
Khatris ka rahan-sahan accha hota hai kyunki historically woh punjab ki dominant caste rahi hai, mere khyaal se woh originally Hindu Shahi kingdom mein Rajputs thhe. Punjab mein unhein UC sirf socio-political basis pe maana jaata hai. Kisi trad west-punjabi Brahmin se pooch lo toh woh unhein Kshatriya hi bataayega kyunki Sikhsism wagerah ki wajah se latest memory mein yahi imprinted hai ki Khatri warrior caste hai. Lekin kisi Haridwar ke Trad Brahmin se pooch lo toh woh Shudra bataayga kyunki unhone recently bohot zyadaa caste-mixing kar rakhi hai jiski wajah se varnasankar ke rules apply ho jaate hain.
Mein unhein vaishya unki current condition ke basis pe bol rha hu.
41KSJZ
No.278653
>>278637
>You should thank god that father painbringer is not in this thread.
Baap hoga tera, mujhe kya, bhangi wale sare gun hai tujhe. Padhle jo likha hai yaha, kuch seekh lega. Warna reh chamar, mujhe kya, mai toh baman hu.
9BVybZ
No.278654
> 5 Pajeet incels arguing about genetics
< They dont know what haplogroup is
STELpd
No.278655
>>278650
No chamar is low aasi they score in high 40s you fucking kanjar niger.
No matter what your community will always kalu abbos lmao.
41KSJZ
No.278657
STELpd
No.278658
>>278653
Karle doxx
Jab gate pe 6 foot ke rakshak khade milenge ge haveli to teri gaand mei daal denge saara doxxing foxxing.
UfgQNE
No.278660
>>278510
delhi mein bol diyo kisi Jat ko shudra, tera poora balatkaar kar denge.
41KSJZ
No.278661
>>278658
>Karle doxx
>He thinks that Father Painbinger pumping his mother is doxing
Smartest low AASI chamar
STELpd
No.278662
>>278660
Delhi mei kahi bhi ye saala ghar ke chaar diwari mei rehkar bol raha hai lmao.
9BVybZ
No.278663
41KSJZ
No.278664
>>278660
Mu pe bolta hu, has ke chale jate hai woh aur kuch na. Shudra matlab Shudra. Ror ho chahe chamar.
STELpd
No.278665
>>278661
Chup hoja abbo lmao
41KSJZ
No.278666
>>278662
Ye chamaro ke cope hai, aur kuch nahi. Rahoge nichi jati hi be, kitna cope karna hai karle, nichi jaati cope hi kar rahi hai hazar saal se.
STELpd
No.278667
41KSJZ
No.278668
41KSJZ
No.278669
UfgQNE
No.278670
>>278523
Kayastha akeli aisi dominat caste hai north india ki jiska majority Y-DNA haplogroup native hai. Baniya se bhi zyadaa, albeit Baniya pe AASI zyadaa hota hai Kayastha ke muqaable.
9BVybZ
No.278671
>>278663
STELpd
No.278672
>>278666
I like your rage abbo
STELpd
No.278676
>>278669
Tu saale mulla abbo hai kya lma
STELpd
No.278677
9BVybZ
No.278678
>>278675
> Himachal pradesh
41KSJZ
No.278679
UfgQNE
No.278680
>>278528
kisi bhi caste ke bare mein jankaari karni ho toh British colonial government ki Hindu tribes and castes book series mein search karo, ya fir Tribes and caste of central provinces of India, Tribes and castes of Punjab province etc karke 4-5 book series hain unmein search karo.
Short summary chahiye toh seedhe wikipedia ya joshuaproject pe search karo.
9BVybZ
No.278681
41KSJZ
No.278682
UfgQNE
No.278683
>>278532
jo kabhi Kshatriyas hua karte thay unko invaders ne haraa diya, ab unke descendants OBCs hain aur woh invaders non-Brahmin UCs.
STELpd
No.278684
>>278682
Yaar abbo hahahha
41KSJZ
No.278686
>>278680
Those are full of flaws though, that is how the cow herders and Yadav got conflated with each other in the first place.
41KSJZ
No.278688
L8woTY
No.278691
>>278677
Himachalis and even kashmiris as a whole have higher aasi than punjabis. Even himachali brahmins hit 35% aasi. So it isnt high for the population we are discussing. Also werent you claiming no chamar can score lower than high 40s?
UfgQNE
No.278692
>>278551
Brahmins ko unke baba ne chutiya bnaa rakha hai jo geneties ko deny karte hain. Aaj ke zamaane mein Traditions agar scientifically verifiable nahi ho toh unhein koyi nhi poochta. Koyi Brahmin baba ye maanne ko tayay nhi hai ki non-R1a Brahmins asal mein dasyu-putra hain.
9BVybZ
No.278693
>>278683
Huna origin theory of Rajputs, Downfall of Gurjaras, these two are the examples i know, you do know anyother historic events which supports your claim
41KSJZ
No.278696
>>278692
10 saal aur bite, bhangi bhi apne baccho ko yahi sikhayenge low caste se cope karwalo.
UfgQNE
No.278698
>>278563
even the rajasthani/gujarati banias have higher AASI in comparison to the respective native castes. Rajasthan mein toh SC Meena bhi zyadaa steppe shifted hain Rajasthani Baniya se.
41KSJZ
No.278699
>>278693
>theory
It's like people completely miss the theory aspect of it and why they get shitted on.
UfgQNE
No.278701
>>278574
>khatris in pakistan are pretty much lower than chamars
41KSJZ
No.278702
>>278698
Again, same old contradictio, if some chamar is married to a pontiff subclad person, his child will have much higher steppe, but only a literal retard will go on to consider that superior. That entire AASI dominance argument is something low caste sticks on to desperately for some reason since it is only means to them not feel like utter subhuman.
STELpd
No.278703
41KSJZ
No.278705
>>278701
>khatris in pakistan are pretty much lower than chamars
It's true, Khatris in pakistan are far more mixed than Khatris in india as far as theology goes that places them lower than shudra. Khatris of India are purer in Varna sense. Picrel is waseem khatri
UfgQNE
No.278706
>>278594
good post haggu, I am glad my disciple is doing a good job in propagating my views.
41KSJZ
No.278707
>>278703
Literally posted "Allah ek Sasti Randi ka pilla" a few picrel ago.
Just because an Upper Caste "does not" agree with you, doesn't make him a low borne like you. Learn to read, you will learn a thing or two. You are surrounded by bunch of two digit retards who share your confirmation bias, circle jerking you in a misplaced sense of confidence. Think upon it a little, baman sikha raha hai, kuch seekh le pajeet.
Atul Shubhratri.
UfgQNE
No.278708
9BVybZ
No.278710
>>278698
Steppe isnt the only factor that decides caste
UfgQNE
No.278711
>>278639
Ror Sindh mein Raja hua karte thay as far as the caste-neutral folklore goes.
UfgQNE
No.278712
>>278653
yaar haggu
STELpd
No.278713
L8woTY
No.278715
>>278711
Pajeet fanfic
hspcTO
No.278716
>>278686
haan but most dependable source wahi hai. Brahmano ne doosri jaatiyo ke baare mein kuch nhi lika except lineage records ka dhanda karne ke.
hspcTO
No.278718
>>278693
khatri west punjab mein originated hain. No doubt ki woh Sakas etc ke descendant hain jine kabhi mlechhas bola jaata tha. Lekin bbad mein unko dwija varna allot kar diya.
hspcTO
No.278720
>>278696
mujhe ptaa hai ki tu kaalu hai isiliye tujhe south indians, non-r1a brahmins etc se koyi problem nahi hai. 🤣🤣
hspcTO
No.278721
>>278702
mein sird genetics ki baat kar rha hu. Isko varna designation se alag rakh.
hspcTO
No.278722
>>278721
*sirf
STELpd
No.278723
>>278718
Jin sabko invaders kaha jata hai vo invaders nhi the.
Agar vo hote to voh assimilate nhi hote .
The argument is flawed.
Invaders assimilate nhi hote .
There were just indic tribes.
Most people dont know this.
hspcTO
No.278725
>>278705
konsa khatri hai ye ? iski ammi ko baloch choodhay ne chod diya hoga islamic invasion ke time.😂
hspcTO
No.278726
>>278710
I know. I was only talking about genetics.
hspcTO
No.278728
STELpd
No.278729
>>278693
Only people who have a “hun” and “turk” as a gotra are gujjars
L8woTY
No.278731
>>278710
Steppe is overrated. Idk why kangers kang so much about it. You have steppe and aasi in both 85 iq dalits and 110 iq UCs in varying ratios yet there is such massive difference in intellect. Low iq bottomost steppe chamars mixed with low iq aasi chamars when they formed their tanning trade guild, and high iq AASI and IVC priests mixed with high iq steppe priests. The oversimplified view, the one dimensional fixation with ancestry or haplos when analyzing indian caste system that most have here is precisely due to the fact that most people here are midwits and incapable of generating original perspectives.
hspcTO
No.278735
>>278723
invaders ne puraane rulers ko displace kar diya. Lekin unhone native culture to bankroll karna shuruu kar diya kyunki woh culturally inferior thay. Iske return mein + fear ki wajah se Brahmano ne unhein dwija status de diya.
STELpd
No.278737
>>>278735
Nope.
If that was the case then why didnt mughals and britishers do the same.
L8woTY
No.278741
>>278737
Islam follows a different template. It prevents assimilation. Brits only ruled india as a colony of UK not as a sovereign state.
JAWzgs
No.278742
>>278737
kyunki unhone culture ko replace kiya. Unke paas cultural zeal thi jo puraane central asian invaders ke paas nhi thi.
JAWzgs
No.278746
IQ waala argument ismein mat kiya karo. IQ is mostly dependent on education/culture. Genetics se bas Brain ki grey matter density hi decide ho sakti hai.
Baaki physical vigour ko guage karna zyadaa aasaan hota hai isiliye sabko ptaa hai ko north-west ke log zyadaa olympic medals laatay hain.
L8woTY
No.278750
JAWzgs
No.278751
>>278746
aur ye bhi genetic hai
>Higher intelligence is associated with lower neurite (neuron connection) density, not more dense networks, because this sparse wiring allows for more efficient neural processing and faster communication. Research shows that higher IQ correlates with larger dendritic trees in pyramidal neurons, which allow for more precise input tracking and faster firing during repeated activity, indicating greater neuronal efficiency
par zaroori nhi ki mental capabilities tumaahri physical capabilities ke saath coincide karein.
JAWzgs
No.278752
PpESGQ
No.278753
>>278492
mujhe is pyaari caet se shadi ke sath suhagrat mananeko hain anan. kab milega?
L8woTY
No.278754
PpESGQ
No.278756
>>278180(OP)
>Niche jat ka Baman when he hears that he is not a true pure bred baman.mp4 (4.14 MB)
RIUom6
No.278757
>>278754
yes
Cfv/Qc
No.278766
>>278751
Culture is downstream from genetics to some extent.
