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Anonymous

IN

bEBoio

No.8844

This is my assessment, even though most people wouldn't agree but there's more common in the parallels of Indians political system and what's happening in USA. Gryoperization in USA has lead to an interesting political climate and outcome but we will not get there. Let's focus on India.

Grypoperization of UCs is in the process, i think we are months before it materializes, maybe UP elections would be the final straw. It's not bjp which wants that, rather congress which will create situations to have this. I wrote long back how it's one of the best way to break hindutva votebank.

A gryoperization of UCs will for certain give a reality check to "Indians" of Hindutva - aka shudra groups who are still aligned. Hindutva movement as a whole in its ideal sense was good - it needed compromise for various groups - who ceded for a common ground. But the experiment might as well be called over.

Partly this is the fault of BJP which fell right into the trap of congress, their own ideological blindness resulted in them losing their way.

The discontent was going to happen, as usual, hindutva voices on social media has two sections - the vocal ones - mostly driven by GCs and lesser visible groups - non-UCs or non-Dwija communities. They are significant force of support to this vocal group.

I started noticing a pattern of discontent among this underlining group - without too much visibility it became sorta raita vs trad thing but it was happening, a fracture. There has been usual bad faith big GC accounts backed by congressis whose entire agenda is to push for factionalism - congress however is aware that UCs even if they don't vote for them they can manage, for hindutva UCs were crucial so first section is to break this alliance at any cost. Gryoperization of this group was way to go. But what most common UCs, dwijas thought was win was actually trap.

The smell of this success or the anxiousness caused by the threat towards the collective existence of GCs will cause them to start attacking anything, even irrationally to the point the underlining group will have to fizzle out. The final fracture.

I think the realization they are missing is that GCs are not the dominant forces neither on ground or on social media. What will happen is likely that, hindutva will be hurt, neither Congress nor BJP will entertain this group and reduce it to the fringe voice - which is vocal shouts but meaningless beyond it.

There will be no real life changes, on ground. No affect nothing. Congress may or may not win after this i do not know, will bjp be able to sustain i do not. What i know is that this movement will mark the complete end of the GC public hegemony in the politics.

Funnily enough it's the SC/ST group which remained mostly clear of Hindutva who have nothing to loose here. They have for the most part marked their identity separate. OBCs were fractured - some going for hindutva some for bhim aligned movements. Caveat here can be said that there has been resurgence in sc/st support for bjp - which due to gryoperization may stop.

It may pave the way for OBCization of the politics, eventually one section of it will become the dominant voice for BJP - other faction will depend. This is why bjp and congress both will try to woe this group.

Though it's a national level perspective, in states despite what we see online - BJP is very flexible and doesn't do uc vs rest, rather booth by booth, or in many cases dominant cast/es vs non-dominant in many states (bihar/up/haryana, etc.).

Why i think BJP will not really entertain the gryoperized group or this group having zilch support is because BJP is most politically mature party which will know that entertaining this group will directly affect the sc/st/obc. Congress is banking on the fact that atleast it will cause the fracture and if bjp does even 1% they can create a consensus that they support such group and counter mobilize sc/st/obc if not prevent any more conversion of them into hindutva. GCs as a whole are committing mass suicide politically because gryoperization is the dead end of any movement - it will break away any belief of rationality, it's impulsive and low iq in nature.

End.

This is my understanding of the situations - anons can critique if they want.

Anonymous

IN

bEBoio

No.8845

>>8844(OP)

I started playing with this slightly tricky idea months back, but it gave way to a thread last week when i saw twitter interactions, anons interacting and becoming emotional - an anon countered me saying that we are part of the fringe as a whole so clueless but i think anon might be wrong.

The small proof for my thread here is this >>>/b/451525 clearly it's not by this anon, he is copying from somewhere else. You can see it's emotionally driven - he likely read the phrase from somewhere else and didn't even read the article. It's telltale sign of what might be brewing.

Anonymous

ARYA

uvpvQq

No.8846

>>8844(OP)

This is basically the dead end here. I never got why BJP went for SC appeasement in the first place when they are not a political or statistical majority either. This is truly worst outcome for a nation. It's like witnessing a USA where negro subhumans were majority and whites aree the minority.

Anonymous

IN

bEBoio

No.8849

>>8846

I think BJP was appeasing SC/STs while banking on the belief of the GCs. Likely their goal was to have majority share of OBCs/SC/STs and GCs obviously to have a common consensus under Hindutva.

Which if they succeeded could have lead to even handling sensitive issues like reservations etc. Which is what leftists do belief they would go for.

But in their initial steps as a whole their movement fell off. BJP was not even going for this tbh, bjp is a national party which means in each state they will have separate priorities or appeasing to different groups which may or may not be at odds with each other nationally.

This was utilized against them to the point where we are now.

Maybe we are just too reactive and it's just another day before elections.

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