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I never understood the obsession of caste in this ...
I never understood the obsession of caste in this chappal forum
hnai25
No.510995
What's the obsession of (indian) in this chappal forum? I lowkey never understood it, I guess some chappal chore will answer its all just shit posting and stuff but why just (indian)based? Even baits and shit posting is supposed to be varied, everything, every thread, every discussion, every insult, every praise is (indian) based here
hGpqfg
No.511001
>>510995(OP)
Politicised issue. Affects people in day to day life such as jobs and college admissions.
J32Bfl
No.511003
>>511001
That and SC/ST acts makes it impossible for UC to openly adress it in public in any other space freely. These chappal phorums become the only space to talk about it. Religiously, its parallel to sensitive young men analogy of west, where a UC guy goes through life keeping these tradition alive while foids, being like water, conform to what is social belief at the time. Sole of these threads are quite meaningful, which is why a bunch of subbos try to detail them, by same fagging, even if no one responds to it.
Uhlq3S
No.511005
>>510995(OP)
Muslims dividing hindoos
g6uff8
No.511010
>>510995(OP)
your caste?
hnai25
No.511012
>>511003
Keeping it alive? How do you keep it alive? All I see in these subs by keeping UC soul alive is cursing each other, calling each other chamar, bangi or dalit as an insult
Is that the UC soul?
hnai25
No.511014
>>511010
Super dalit, like dalitest of the dalits, so low that I lie inside the earths core, happy?
Like I asked what's the obsession with (indian)
BYZolQ
No.511015
>>510995(OP)
You can change everything but you can't change (jai bhim), you may hide, but you cant change for the (indian) ultimate tool of nature to bring balance human society,
(indian) can tell more about a persons lineage personality and genetic makeup in few seconds what hours of conversation cant tell.
for ex if your are chammar you are most likely to low iq
if you are from warrior (indian) you may have strategic mind, ability tolerate extreme circumstance, etc
because of (indian) system if you are high borne warrior (indian) all your ancestores were also warrior (indian), so, your genetic make up is all but warriors
g6uff8
No.511017
no (you)s for (you) then
a2OIs9
No.511019
>>510995(OP)
Bimarus replaced state kanging with c4ste
BYZolQ
No.511020
vOcTLW
No.511021
>>510995(OP)
It's one of the attack points muslims use to justify being in India.
> if we leave
> you will just do (indian) kanging
Most (indian) issues are land issues.
We can divide land more equally and everybody will be happy within Hindudom.
It's not that hard to do kek
Sharing land with muslims however is not an option.
J32Bfl
No.511022
>>511012
>Keeping it alive? How do you keep it alive?
Mostly by following day to day religious aspects of it.
>All I see in these subs by keeping UC soul alive is cursing each other, calling each other chamar, bangi or dalit as an insult
That's just retards being retards. Yadav's and the Mahars keep going for each other's throat for the millionth time despite being technically the same Varna, and neither being UC.
Truth is attacking any community has nothing to do with traditional aspect of it. It all boils down to orthodoxy and fair treatment anon. People who work hard, study hard, give their all want to make it in life without someone less talented and less skilled sidelining them. People who knows their women are predates or fetishised want to attack other communities for doing so. It's not all that different from westerners and their views towards you and me.
>Is that the UC soul?
Course not. Neither you nor I can confirm they are UC. It could be just a muslim or a dalit trying to start a chimp out. Even if anons don't react to it, he can easily switch between devices to detail threads.
I remember an anon made a great point about this, connecting it to askhenazi or something. How society is trying to slowly push better group down the drain, starting from bottom, making sure they all assimilate with groups that are not capable of supporting itself or preserve their religious or ethnic integrity.
hnai25
No.511025
>>511015
So according to white people standards all Indians are low borns I guess? Even lower than east asians? Cause east asian score the highest in math olympiads and IQ tests
Indians have actually created the worst societies comparable only to sub saharan african (strictly modern day)
And what do you have to say about afganistan and pakistan, both are super shithole countries but are like fair skinned, coloured eyes, high brow ridge
If DNA matters so much what about these countries?
BYZolQ
No.511026
>>510995(OP)
only borns hate (indian) kanging for it reveals their true self,
a pasmanda dhobi will always be a pasmanda dhobi, no matter how much he kangs about unity and shit.
hGpqfg
No.511028
>>511025
Dont care about timmy's opinion. We are in our own country.
J32Bfl
No.511029
>>511014
Kek
>>511015
I partially agree with this, but I also disagree with some things you said. I think their is a firm like between saying that Kshatriyas are more suited to battle and ruling, and Shudra are better as engineers, than saying Kshatriya can't do work that requires wits or Shudra are only good to be slaves.
Generic makeup is also true, but it has more to do with aptitude. Aptitude passes through our lineage. Our children have same tendencies as us. It's not just about appearance. If i remember correctly another anon pointed this out.
How the first group that fell victim to reservation were the Shudras. Kambhojas etc, had their distinct and well established ethnic lineages and tribe lines to avoid in inbreeding, but people started to slowly antagonise UC, fetishize their women, becoming tool of politician. Those who were respectable member of society, vs those who were not now consider themself same just by virtue of not being UC, and it only went downhill from that point.
hnai25
No.511032
>>511026
Again asking, so with all of your super high pure bred high c@ste aryan genes, what are you to a nordic white guy?
J32Bfl
No.511033
>>511019
State kanging is just c4ste kanging for those who don't have a good one. Since that is all they have. Similarly those who have neither will kang on appearance and looks, and those who don't have that either will kang on personal basis of accomplishment. Problem with this logic is you can actually have them all lmao, making the later things invalid.
J32Bfl
No.511036
>>511026
That's true. Though I think it's less about how they view us and how they view themself. Take a look at Jatts. They are not Dwija, but they are still Upper (indian). They respect themself and as some form of result, society respects them too. Despite their flaws, Pasmanda should have tried to be like them in action. On the contrary the opposite happened.
hnai25
No.511037
>>511028
The aryan genes you kang as steppe and r1a1b is highest in timmies, afghans and central asians
So what is the basis of c@ste kanging again? If tomorrow a war broke out none of you would be able to recreate your society like germany did post ww2, so do you guys like worship germans?
9W5DVw
No.511038
>>511025
see, c@ste as a concept to indicate a person's lineage, genetic makeup was true but some centuries back. its over now.
a shudra born and brought up in bangalore would be much more, idk, conscious, aware, than a brahman from jharkhand would be.
a brahman from jharkhan would most definitely have a better socio-economic condition than a shudra over there though. why do you think jaats and other OBS shudra c@stes (no offence) shit on brahmans from east UP and bihar (again no offence).
its simple anon. the same goes for pakis afghans who have "better" genetics but poorer living conditions.
as for india comparing to the west or east, it firmly believe its due to the same factors. indians as a race have no inherent issues.
>saaar 150cr but still no lolympic gold
greeks used to document that we were taller than them
>saaar scammers unhygenic poo in the loo
indians were the most civilized in the world in that aspect. we had toilets and drainage systems in harrappa which the pajeetia of today lacks. india was labelled as a high trust society by any documenter
acknowledge the issues india faces today but do not let the indians are inferior thing get to your head. mlecchas will always be mlecchas.
zwpK4L
No.511040
>>511033
no amount of castkanging/statekanging/looks/prestige whoring will give me a girl
so why even bother. all castes are chamar bl****dy
J32Bfl
No.511041
>>511032
Mostly different from Dalits / Gypsies that stole or raped their daughters in past. My gora frens think I am just another jeet, but they hate the LC disproportionately more. They probably only like me due to my anti semitism, but reality is even presense of Nordic guy, removes those existing difference like you think it does.
J32Bfl
No.511043
>>511040
Kekek
BYZolQ
No.511044
>>511032
i think whites are lowest of lowest, for nordic guys ancestors were nothing more barbaric looters, modern day nordics have standard of living and open and good society is got introduced to sophisticated societies of asia and vice versa we got into shitty shit hole because got introduced to these pale pigs, you can research how societies were so sophisticated before we got introduced to these pale trash.
vOcTLW
No.511045
>>511037
> We can't do (indian) in our society
> Why should you be allowed to!??'
Yes, because 1 jew put you in a jewish herd management system and you aren't smart enough to understand it and leave it kek
a2OIs9
No.511046
>>511033
I'm Brahmin, but there is so c4ste kanging here.
hGpqfg
No.511047
>>511032
We dont care. Yes they are currently richer but ultimately they are 1000s of miles away in their own land. I waa born here will marry someone from here and will likely die here. They are irrelevant to us. Are they better? Maybe or maybe not. We dont know or care. They simply dont factor in.
9W5DVw
No.511049
>>511038
addendum: imagine you talk to a gareeb boy and tell him
>saaar you can solve all your problems by working hard and studying
he will laugh at you. there is an inherent inferiority he has attached to himself which makes him think he is either incapable OR makes him listen to the person talking to him irrespective of what the person is saying. but we do see gareeb boys and girls shining in exams right ?? that is what will to power looks like.
most indians suffer from sub-par socio-economic conditions, this makes most indians attach an inferiority complex to themselves and have this attitude
>gora saab is saying it, must be trve
hGpqfg
No.511052
>>511038
Duh, we understand variance. We talk about averages when talking about groups such as when talking about jewish overrepresentation in sciences (due to higher group average iq). Regression to the mean is different for different groups.
hnai25
No.511053
>>511036
That's just a haryanvi trait, even chamars of of haryana make (indian) kanging songs and haryanvis rarely ever leave their state and if they ever leave their hometown, they stay as small as possible
I've seen these same "jatts" of haryana getting humiliated like a dog in US and canada against a single white or black guy because their they don't have homeground advantage and can't outnumber their opponent 1v10, which haryanvis are known for doing, the only reason haryanvis kang on strength is because they fight with poor super malnourished pajeet from bihar and thinks he is king, introduce a mongolian in front of jatt and he pees his pant
J32Bfl
No.511054
>>511038
I firmly agree with this. Reality is, in a way a lot of UC realise that rather than dumping resources in drain, if we put regionalism aside and focused on UC, they could have been the cash cow of the society and from revenue that came from their hard work, rest could have been pulled up too. It instead was approached from different angle entirely. We keep pushing money in groups that constantly keeps lowering the bar for itself.
Like you said, a Shudra from Bengaluru will have better self awareness than a Baman from the region of Jharkhand. But the problem is it is not the Bamans fault, it is his circumstances. A lot of UC see it, and they are tired of pretending it is not their, specially because UC are so small in numbers they would require much less resource.
Another example of this is obviously, a Shudra from Haryana or Punjab will be taller than the Kshatriyas in Bihar, but again, that is not fault of the Kshatriya. Raju's still end up being major figure in military and similar services. It's just this feeling of being abused in an unrewarding world that pushes you to quit on your beliefs, from the angle of traditionalist.
9W5DVw
No.511055
>>511052
i dont get it. are you referring to the height thing or high trust thing ?? i didnt intend to introduce variance average and all that consciously. please elaborate.
hnai25
No.511059
>>511054
That is the thing, I can understand state kanging and region kanging if its comparison within India, atleast there is difference
What's with (indian) kanging?
hnai25
No.511062
>>511056
I'm not bitter, I just cannot understand (indian) kanging, its just very very foreign and weird concept to me, especially the amount that happens in this platform
hGpqfg
No.511063
>>511037
Get out of imageboards and twitter. In day to day life no one discusses your cast's harappaworld or gedmatch breakdown lol. We arent thinking about whitoids or nick fuentes in day to day life lol. Indian tribalism and class dynamics is unique to india just like arab tribalism is unique to them or US race issues are unique to them.
J32Bfl
No.511064
>>511037
>The aryan genes you kang as steppe
Steppe is highest in Shudra community anon. It has no significance to UC or LC status. That was just a momentary trend that got blown out of proportion by some groups. Rors have the most about it steppe despite being Shudra. It's just a genetic component.
>and r1a1b is highest in timmies, afghans and central asians
That's not generally anon, that's actually haplo of a person.
>So what is the basis of c@ste kanging again?
Achievements, i think people misunderstand the point of word kang by virtue of being nufags. The term comes from "we wuzz kangs". Or about how great their ancestors was. UC themself are aware of how stupid it is to kanh on ancestors but everyone else assume even remote mention of the word "càste" is kanging, with no form of relevance to context.
>If tomorrow a war broke out none of you would be able to recreate your society like germany did
That's an assumption anon. We don't have any society strictly gate kept to UC. This we don't know if they could. Statistically majority of UC still saturate business, military as well as the admin services. If anything they are far more suitable to build a society again than rest.
>post ww2, so do you guys like worship germans?
Vice versa anon, you clearly have not read their scripts about indo Aryan classification vs the dalit groups.
9W5DVw
No.511066
>>511054
>It's just this feeling of being abused in an unrewarding world that pushes you to quit on your beliefs, from the angle of traditionalist.
>being abuse in an unrewarding world
who is abusing you ?? and how does it make you quit your beliefs (if we are referring to belief in varnashrama) ?? ig it radicalizes you further, no ??
>>511059
i am afraid you dont. c@ste kanging, state kanging, regional kanging all arise from the same need, the human need to be seen and associating with a tribe of yours. its very primitive and it takes a lot of effort to individualize yourself. and btw trve greatness is only achieved by individualization, dont let people here fool you by saying this is a jewish psyop.
J32Bfl
No.511067
>>511044
I think Nordic are still better than timmies in UK and USA. They built a functioning society, some of them atleast. Lower population was definitely a factor that helped them have a higher quality of life over all. It's pretty funny because what truly seperates UC from Nords is the fact that they let their weaklings perish and die, we didn't. Going against rules of nature always harms us.
J32Bfl
No.511070
>>511047
>Yes they are currently richer but ultimately they are 1000s of miles away in their own land.
This as well. How does existence of nords or the sub saharans affect us. It doesn't because we don't live in same vicinity. Same as they don't care about us as much as danes hate swedes or vice versa, Or as irish don't like Brits and how the Brits consider them uncivil. Dragging a nord who doesn't know you exist, is pretty weak argument.
J32Bfl
No.511071
>>511049
>most indians suffer from sub-par socio-economic conditions, this makes most indians attach an inferiority complex to themselves and have this attitude
Trvke
9W5DVw
No.511080
to whoever this may concern, your c@ste, your r1a1, your steppe nothing matters if you are not achieving anything in your life. if you cant earn money to provide for a family, you are a lesser man, always remember this.
a shudra who can keep his family happy and hearty with his own money, is much better than a brahmin who is grinding for UPSC and crying about reservations online.
hnai25
No.511082
>>511066
I get it, tribalism and stuff, but this is all the forum ever talks about, like in other forums you also get stuff like this
In 4chan too white people act like tribalistic ooga boogas but atleast they use research papers and journals but that kanging is a very very small part of it, porn might also be huge
Majority of 4chan is tech discussion, international news, philosophical debate, conspiracy and stuff
But all the time I've been on this forum, no thread at all, only threads I see are (indian) kanging(80%), cucking hindu-muslim(15%), 5% of woman hating and porn
Not even 1thread of discussing ideas or tech?
vOcTLW
No.511083
>>511080
its just pointless wordcelling by losers
indian losers are copying this behaviour , amplifying their own loserdom
none of the people posting here have any idea about genetics, càste, hinduism, and/or real life experience with these things
fXZoIG
No.511084
>>511082
>But all the time I've been on this forum, no thread at all, only threads I see are (indian) kanging(80%), cucking hindu-muslim(15%), 5% of woman hating and porn
>Not even 1thread of discussing ideas or tech?
??? started lying already
vOcTLW
No.511085
>>511084
he's not indian kek
it's a Finnish guy or smth
why are you wasting energy on him
imagine living in India and getting baited so hard
J32Bfl
No.511086
>>511053
I am neutral to that, as i neither agree not do I disagree on those. However when you look at it from a comparative angle, between a Jatt who does needphool of doing farm work, making money, peheleani and raising his kids to the best of his ability, and some Bhimta in maharastra whose entire indentity is hearing UC, is not it obvious who is doing better in life?
Again, it boils down to uplifting yourself rather than dragging other down. Kanging is retarded. But most discussions regarding (indian) is not even kanging as many anons (usually LC or the muslim) chimpout about it.
These are very real political problems, that black pill all the groups who work hard and don't get selected because some one who worked less hard got it booked. Yes we are not monolith, but the problem still persists.
Then their is religious aspect of it too. People who kept themself away from attractive women of other Varna wish for their women to be able to do the same.
It's about moral symmetry which is rarely attained since foids don't value traditions and conform to societal needs, or societal and communal interpretation of spirituality. This is why you will see hate against "giv dotters" or "marriage between UC is not ok" threads as well, the standard sort of goes both ways.
fXZoIG
No.511087
5wiTG7
No.511088
9W5DVw
No.511090
>>511082
how old are you ?? have you ever been to indiachan (ofc when it existed). userbase of this imageboard is mostly college teens. its an edgy phase.
you talk about 4chan right ?? i have been a regular poster on 4chan ssince 2018. i am 22 as of now. 4chan has all the +ves because most of its userbase is dominated by millenials. it has a HUGE userbase compared to this imageboard.
i absolutely detest reddit but niche subreddits will get you much better discussions than bhch. does that make reddit better ?? absolutely not. people in india are mostly unaware of imageboards and think reddit is the alt-site. once that population migrates here, i see no reason you could find about the content. those threads you talk about, yeah the c@ste H-M cuck baits, those will get buried in the 'log.
to summarize:
- small userbase
- mostly immature userbase
vOcTLW
No.511091
>>511087
i mean i get being poor its not fault
but wasting your energy is 100% your own fault
smbdy from Finnland will close his PC and get fed by his government
situation of most Indians on this board is much more severe and dire
I dont understand why Dyaush doesnt ban non Indians that spam but yeah hes retarded anyway
J32Bfl
No.511092
>>511059
>What's with (indian) kanging?
State kanging is also retarded anon. We all were migrants who migrated from one region to other historically. Where we ended up and how lucky we were is different matter. Kanging on lineage is about, what your ancestors did and basically telling others of same group what they are really capable of.
If I had to analyse it, I would say, if your ancestors took pride in farming, kanging would be flexing lands and a large house that came from jameendari. If they were in administrative duty then it would be celebrating a trait that is well looked upon in the community. We tend to antagonize it with word "kang", but trying to set a bar for your community, or expectations is not a bad thing.
J32Bfl
No.511093
>>511063
>Indian tribalism and class dynamics is unique to india just like arab tribalism is unique to them or US race issues are unique to them.
Precisely. We don't care or worry about racism for the same reason timmies don't understand the emphasis of càste, or struggle of different tribes with each other. We tend to dwelve in the subject we are familiar too.
9W5DVw
No.511094
>>511083
the biggest issue is indians trying to imitate literal mlecchas. i bet no one here would feel like a loser if they read any of their scriptures every single day. i can also bet most people here believe in psyops like YOLO and
>saaar there is no rebirth kekek chutya hindu
keep suffering and keep being born again. it never began for such people.
vOcTLW
No.511097
>>511094
Why are you using the term mleccha?
And the biggest issue for Indians is accepting muslims as part of India.
Every other mistake is fixable and doesn't really matter.
And there are no scriptures in Hinduism
Why are people so retarded on this board kek
9W5DVw
No.511100
>>511097
>Why are you using the term mleccha?
>And there are no scriptures in Hinduism
absolute state.
hnai25
No.511105
>>511092
The thing about ancestor kanging is in India, most of the reproduction until recently was reserved to elites males, taking multiple wives and concubines, most middle or lower middle class males didn't reproduce, reproduction rate was so skewed at one point that during the neolithic revolution for every 18 women reproducing, only 1 man reproduced, so all are children "elite ancestors" in some way, some just being recent
Peasants had unusually low sexual success rate at one point, ofcourse only the direct offical marriages and their offspring got the title and other children were thrown back to the peasant class
vOcTLW
No.511108
>>511100
talking about scriptures is a typical abrahamic red flag kek
there is no such thing
and using mleccha as if its some gotcha word againts a guy who is wasting your energy isn't the W you think it is
as i said, this guy posts dumb shit and can go turn his PC off and his gov will ensure he is well fed
you turn your PC off , and muzzies are in front of your door ready to take an iron rod to your head because your little sister threw a water ballong at one of their women
do you understand the difference and your priorities?
J32Bfl
No.511120
>>511066
>who is abusing you ??
I am not taking about myself here anon. I was just trying to summarise logic of Unreserved groups. In their opinion they are
<Working harder than anyone else
<Paying taxes on regular basis
<Giving their sons to defence of nation
<Trying to follow orthodox faith to its best
<Trying to be liberalised over all
However this is rewarded with hostility or with a totalitarian belief. "If you don't gib dotter you are not against càste" and so on.
>and how does it make you quit your beliefs (if we are referring to belief in varnashrama) ?? ig it radicalizes you further, no ??
Not quite anon. Think of it in a way, that we all are pieces of chess board. A knight can only do what it does if other pieces also do what they are meant to. If you see other groups sort of giving up on their duties it makes you question your own beliefs.
UC's that don't wish to leave their lands, or marry other UC clans, due to Varna sankar are a great example of it. UC that comes under the UR group and believe in merit will see those who work a little less hard, but are financially better than them making it and it tends to break their will. In these circumstances a UC is left with just two choices.
Either radicalise yourself and use your existence and what is tied to it and defence to these form of morality corruption, with your ego keeping your integrity, or actually comply to what is now perceived as social norm.
A UC can benefit a lot from just agreeing with LC community, and he will be treated like a god in reality. SC/ST status are passed meaninglessly now, OBC as well, but UC find themself on crossroad of do they go for convenience or dignity.
It's not as black and white as people think it is. Their is also a factor of women. Like I said most women don't believe in traditionality the same way men do. Women derive their alignment to Varna or faith since it is more forgiving when you compare it to abrahamic values, and they get to kang on achievement on men of their clan. Men kang on it on principal because they find their existence burdened by keeping it alive the same way their ancestors did.
You can find a Brahmin man who takes pride in vedas and it's memorization, but you can also find a Brahmin woman who kangs on her status as Brhamin while dating a Muslim. Not saying that is a good or bad thing, but this creates a sense of ethnical assymetry or "i did all of this for you and you couldn't even do this much in return?" Their is more to it, but it rarely gets discussed due to how threads get detailed.
J32Bfl
No.511126
>>511088
Don't misunderstand me anon. I am not saying you are at fault, or the Shudra is. But I am saying society is not fair to you, and you never got to approach your potential, and when you did you may have been punished for it. I am sorry if I made it sound bad.
hnai25
No.511132
>>511108
I'm not finnish, what gave you that impression swiss anon?
5wiTG7
No.511134
>>511126
I AM VERY AWARE BLAADY
but i understand what you mean...
most people here don't even know what planet they're living on.... they don't see or think past their nose...... absolute soulless eyes....
sometimes i feel kind of sad that i am no different than these walking brainless bags of biomass because i am in the same state.
J32Bfl
No.511137
>>511105
>The thing about ancestor kanging is in India, most of the reproduction until recently was reserved to elites males,
The thing is, people conflated Varna status with elite status. That is not exactly true, and we are forced to believe it. It doesn't help that a lot of UC are so bitter they double down on it as well. In reality historically elite could exist outside his Varna status.
Maratha are a great example of it and I am sure many others exist in same way. Polygamy would sustain anyone who could afford it, but it boils down to kings doing it for the sake of alliance and heirs.
>taking multiple wives and concubines, most middle or lower middle class males didn't reproduce,
That won't be necessarily true anon. I get the concubine analogy, but if we go by Varna based view here, UC or Dwija specifically would still be relatively minor group in the nation.
>reproduction rate was so skewed at one point that during the neolithic revolution for every 18 women reproducing, only 1 man reproduced, so all are children "elite ancestors" in some way, some just being recent
This I can partially make sense of, but I kind of believe this too would vary region by region in its own way.
>Peasants had unusually low sexual success rate at one point, ofcourse only the direct offical marriages and their offspring got the title and other children were thrown back to the peasant class
This is a sound argument, however the issue here is lineage. If we are strictly talking about marriage polygamy was not an issue for any man, however marriage outside Varna were very firmly considered abomination, regardless of both parents being UC's or who was higher unless very certain exceptions presented itself.
It also doesn't work because Varna is locked in lineage whole in European nations sucess of clas comes from progressing over generations. You could be peasant now, squire Tommorow, a knight next life and a lord in three generations. That won't necessarily change in subcon after Varna was already ostracised. Atleast not easily.
J32Bfl
No.511141
>>511111
>why are you bullying jharkhand ????
I am not anon. I was actually empathizing with Jharkhand. I do think Brahmins born in Jharkhand are capable of great intellect too, atleast most of them, while retards exist in the Brahmins in Dumeel Nadu. However regionalism as prevented it, language barriers has prevented it. That doesn't mean Jharkhandi did anything wrong, it's just they were unlucky.
9W5DVw
No.511143
>>511108
>blah blah muslim chuslim lindu pajeet blah blah brrr muslim rod reee pajeet blah blah joooz reeee blah blah
and please stop reddit spacing
hGpqfg
No.511146
>>511105
Thats mostly bs. You cant create stable civilisations with so many unmarried men. They will end up resorting to crime and wars when nothing is at stake and they dont need to earn for their family. Stable civilisation will not be possible. What you are describing are unstable nlgger societies. Yes the elites took multiple wives (for eg 1% males taking 3% females) but the disbalance was slight and thats balanced by slight female surplus created by war. Whatever tiny minority of men ended up single were usually outlaws, runaways, robbers etc. who had shit lives to begin with. Vast majority were monogamous just raising their children.
vOcTLW
No.511150
>>511143
yes i already expected you to be a muzzie
Dyaush really needs to shut down this shithole website kek
its just muzzies wordcelling against random white losers
paid for by a Hindu/Jain kek
hnai25
No.511152
>>511137
Varna was very much fluid till the gupta dynasty anon, genetics reveal it, India was mixing like on a massive pace till the kushans dynasty collapsed in the north and the Romans also stopped all trade with the south, affectively killing the merchant class and silk route to India
And then came the Gupta dynasty which locked everything into place, no more mixing after that
How do you think a small group of kuru priests were able to spread hinduism all over the subcontinent without religiously recognising a certain population, no king will patronize a religion which calls him dalit
J32Bfl
No.511156
>>511134
>I AM VERY AWARE BLAADY
>but i understand what you mean...
>most people here don't even know what planet they're living on.... they don't see or think past their nose...... absolute soulless eyes....
It's not just you. Life has been very cruel to not just one but many groups. Not only was our faith crippled from inside. Those who tried to make it have order are labelled dehati, even though it will actually civilised the malpractice or ill-practice of the faith.
Brahmins don't value intellect the way they once did or scriptural studies. Many rajputs don't think martial duty is that viral. Those who seperate their identity from lineage duty shouldn't get to kang on it, but that is besides this. Same can be said for brahmin in other states.
>sometimes i feel kind of sad that i am no different than these walking brainless bags of biomass because i am in the same state.
That's simply not true. I know eastern side of North is shit on a lot. But truth is not only these states had horrible politicians but also much higher numbers of dehati that spread like plague in past. It's hard and tough for rest of us to try to sympathise with you.
Which is why you get lines like all bihari are dalit and etc. I strongly doubt most other Brahmins will feel same way about you in person if you were well read, studious or intellectually and spiritually established. Don't let words on the internet hollow your sovl anon, be kind to yourself since no one else will be. Try to take pride in lineage that carried on so long for you to be here, and continue to persist and lift yourself above the challenges.
9W5DVw
No.511159
>>511150
>thinks i am a muzzie
>wordcelling against white losers
>white loser
>on bhch ??
schizo final boss.
J32Bfl
No.511167
>>511146
>You cant create stable civilisations with so many unmarried men
This. Again, Shudras formed the bulk of the society and most by book trads will agree with this. It's impossible to run a society, specially our society in that state. UC, in the sense of Dwijas have always been a minority, but it didn't have any hostility, which created a functional give and take environment. As far as tribalism goes, it would exist regardless of dharma or Varna, as it does in pakistan.
How people treat each other has nothing to do with orthodoxy, in lack of it will boil down to hypergamy and fetishization of the lower class of women, like that anon said, where polygamy will be locked to elites.
Another fact as you said, we men are much more disposable in nature. Never in history have so many men existed and never in history have so many women felt entitled. Somewhere a lot of us need to be comfortable that we are born to either win or die in wars but we don't and society is where it is thanks to it.
5wiTG7
No.511168
>>511156
blaad i gave SSB, i think they didn't recommend me because i am jharkhandi dehati....
truth is actually i'm a bihari baman....
but i have domicile of jharkhand.....
j2AMXU
No.511169
>>511159
Alot of y8s lurk here, they just cant post. Some post in int from time to time
J32Bfl
No.511172
>>511152
>Varna was very much fluid till the gupta dynasty anon, genetics reveal it,
I am not disagreeing with it. But i think with the progress of time, it got ossified. Let me give an example, of you have clear talent for combat and so does your partner, chances are so will be the case with your child. This would imply that the process will eventually ossify and lock itself to lineage. Not saying it should be locked totally, but their is some integrity to birth based Varna system as well, than outright rejecting it.
>India was mixing like on a massive pace till the kushans dynasty collapsed in the north and the Romans also stopped all trade with the south, affectively killing the merchant class and silk route to India
I agree with this.
>And then came the Gupta dynasty which locked everything into place, no more mixing after that
>How do you think a small group of kuru priests were able to spread hinduism all over the subcontinent without religiously recognising a certain population, no king will patronize a religion which calls him dalit
I both agree and disagree with it. While you are not wrong in the sense no king will accept the faith which didn't consider them highborn, the truth is not all kings have been officiated by priests in past. Many that were officiated still saw power hierarchy where faith would align with crown and would favour Buddhism as well for this reason.
However In some ways, Varna didn't stop being fluid over night. Varna formed in a way that those that were prior sage classes were more likely to mix with each other giving rise to a more robust classification of Priests with more diverse and rich rituals.
It's not that mixing itself is fundamentally wrong, if we disregard birth entirely, still later scriptures go against mixing of Varna. Rather than thinking we were mixing in Varna, as people assume with "all brahmemes have R1a something" it's more likely that everyone has R1a, but only some of them were brahmin, some brahmin came from steppe paternal lineage, some didn't, same can go for any Varna, and it's these groups that were mixing with each other.
I do agree that Varna sankar law was a lot more relaxed before gupta period, but it still certainly existed. Gupta period made it a little too rigid however giving no flexibility. Realistically what happened was much more neutral and it neither benefited anyone nor disregarded them on a specific level.
J32Bfl
No.511174
>>511168
Don't give up, you are very young. Things have only started. Keep working hard since I don't think you have anything else. If you are capable of self analysis and self criticism you are capable of self improvement as well anon. Do not worry about "maybe this maybe that" just keep trying. Besides their are many more exams other than SSB.
sJWKRY
No.511178
TLDR of this high iq thread
9W5DVw
No.511182
SpbcrG
No.511191
>>510995(OP)
They don't have any achievements of their own.
And most of them have a big inferiority complex due to their inner and outer ugliness.
So they want to feel superior by trying to attribute their ancestor's achievements as their own.
Or they want to do so by degrading other people to subhuman status.
All of this is an effort to fulfill their ego which wants to be at a higher position without actual effort.
That's it.
It's the lazy man's status game.
mdwHYT
No.511205
J32Bfl
No.511209
>>511205
Kekekek, like saying Kanglu and Muslim
hnai25
No.511213
>>511172
The shudra kings you mentioned became kings when the vedic world order was already set up and they just became kings in an already existing order later
I'm saying that if a particular kingdom didn't come under vedic order and the brahmin just went in and goes
>so hey worship the vedic gods, also you and all your entire kingdom is dalit
I can't imagine that happening
J32Bfl
No.511242
>>511213
>The shudra kings you mentioned became kings when the vedic world order was already set up and they just became kings in an already existing order later
That's over simplification of it. Many Kings that did exist did so much later from vedic period. If it happened in Vedic world or in a situation where role of king always aligned with Varna, it would make it impossible for them to stay Shudra. It is also imperative that figures like Shunga didn't call themself "Kshatriya" or "Rajayana" but just humble Brahmin from small line, who became a king for sake of order.
>I'm saying that if a particular kingdom didn't come under vedic order and the brahmin just went in and goes
>>so hey worship the vedic gods, also you and all your entire kingdom is dalit
>I can't imagine that happening
And you are right to think that. Varna itself will not be ossified unless people already had some form of established structure. Same way they won't consider Greeks Kshatriyas just for having being kings or their own rulers having won against them, or same reason they didn't exactly consider Mughals Kshatriyas either. You have to treat them as if they had some form of integrity rather than willy nilly changing laws to suit their narrative, but operating on understanding of the society as it existed.
It's also viral to say, that Shudras wouldn't be exactly dalit as we present them. Dalit is any man who is either Avarnia (not in 4 clans) this a tribal, who was fundamentally not a Hindu, or a person who gers kicked out of four Varna system.
A good example of it being Gypsies who got pushed out, migrated and continued to do so all the way into iran, europe and many such land over time. Besides that Shudra themself are not parallel to Dalit. A larger majority of them are in line with OBC and UR.
This is one of the reason a lot of Savarna Shudra are against Dalit, since they face clashes with them all on a more regular basis than Dwija or as we put it "UC", do. There is also the fact that in historical sense Shudra were physically class and will form general and soldiers in their own right, which would give them elevated status despite their Varna.
Even today, Vaishya status can be lower than some Shudras who did much better socially, and it has less to do with the laws fixing things but more about social perception of a group. The world Shudra is antagonised a lot, and many Dwija groups try to use it as a slur like retards the same. It's a problem on all sides, in a way.
