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q0ZEB9
No.561950
When did atheism become uncool or retarded?

xIHiIl
No.561954
>>561950(OP)
its just that online atheists are retarded , i havent had any problems with atheists irl
q0ZEB9
No.561955
>>561954
Seems like even the amount of atheists irl have also decreased.
CpHhnX
No.561957
>>561950(OP)
You are describing reddit atheists
q0ZEB9
No.561961
>>561957
They were and are the forefront of atheism tho.
aloG48
No.561965
>>561950(OP)
It's the fate of every idea. First it is domain of few 'nerds' then becomes normified as it gathers more followers until it's made welcoming for giga normoids and women which is when the usual retardation and cringe stuff done by them comes up.

xIHiIl
No.561968
>>561955
yep , being agnostic makes the most sense
q0ZEB9
No.561969
>>561965
>Picrel
Sad to see that happen to looksmaxxing as well, can't have shit till foids and their simp beta orbitors exist.
EGwRAU
No.561972
>>561968
but gnostic bible is great
0cY2a3
No.561973
>>561950(OP)
Since the day the neo buddhists aka bhimta started spamming cringe low iq atheist memes on every SM
aloG48
No.561974
>>561973
That's when atheists started losing aura in the Indian internet but they started losing it in broader global internet before that.
dU2lFH
No.561977
>>561974
I think people mainly got tired of how annoying they were, like purposely searching religious people minding their own business and mocking them. Or being general attentionfags saying they don't care about religion and don't tell others they are atheist but seething at their religious friends or family members.
aloG48
No.561979
>>561955
Seems like they're declining irl as well. I remember back in 00s, we being the fastest growing group.
If atheists needs to have any long lasting cultural impact, they need to address the woman question instead of assuming everyone regardless of gender are just cogs in a machine instead of accepting every rand who left her religion because their parents didn't want her to be a randi.
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GzmvOm
No.561981
>>561950(OP)
Ur avg atheist is liberal commie or some handoo bad saar moolnivasi type shit
Even im an atheist or more to say agnostic but i dont parade taht around
7AgHnJ
No.561982
>>561968
Most atheists are agnostics themselves. You clearly dont understand the meaning of those words.
dU2lFH
No.561984
>>561979
U can't teach your wife and kids to be atheist, it's a form of thought not a religion.
7AgHnJ
No.561985
>>561979
Atheists are declining due to higher birth rates of religious folks.
dU2lFH
No.561986
>>561982
Agnostics are fence sitting cowards.
aloG48
No.561987
>>561984
You can definitely have a non theistic culture but most of it is just racial/ethnic nationalism which is considered a big no no. Even in pajeet land you'll see people seething when they identify with their (indian)/ethnicity first. Leftoids want everyone to identify as 'Indian' first and rightoids want everyone to identify as 'Hindu' first.
aloG48
No.561988
>>561985
And?
dU2lFH
No.561989
>>561987
>non theistic culture
You're just turning atheism into a religion, imagine becoming the thing you hate.
aloG48
No.561990
>>561989
???
Just because I hate going and prostrating myself to some imaginary being don't mean I hate myself lol
dU2lFH
No.561996
>>561990
Religion will always exist in some form with whatever God people worship, there's no culture that is athiestic. Keep that shit to yourself that's the point.
7AgHnJ
No.562001
>>561986
Are they? I think most people dont even understand the meaning of agnosticism and atheism. They assume atheism is belief in no god and agnosticism is being uncertain of god when in reality theism-atheism are belief positions whereas agnosticism is knowledge position.
A-theism is just lack of belief in god and agnosticism means you make no claims of knowledge. They are two separate things. All religious folks are agnostics because their faith is their belief not their knowledge and many atheists are agnostics because they simply reject belief in god. They do NOT CLAIM there is no god.
dU2lFH
No.562004
>>562001
Atheists don't believe God exists not that they reject God. what's the point of being atheist if God exists, then you're just a retard for not believing in him.
7AgHnJ
No.562015
>>562004
I said atheists reject belief in god. All atheists and all theists are agnostics actually. People who are uncertain on existence of god are also atheists because they dont believe in existence of god which is what atheism is.
dU2lFH
No.562017
>>562015
Well no one can truly be atheist until we search up the whole universe and all the different dimensions & find no evidence of God.
dU2lFH
No.562026
>>562023
>is a passive position which is why those folks who say they are uncertain
That's why they are fence sitting cowards.
7AgHnJ
No.562028
>>562017
Atheism is merely absence of belief in god. The burden of proof is not on them. It is a passive position which is why those folks who say they are uncertain and mistakenly identify as agnostics are also atheists actually.
It is the believers/theists actually whose belief is an active position.
dU2lFH
No.562029
>>562028
Did you just delete your post to repost it with a plebbit paragraph?
7AgHnJ
No.562030
>>562026
How so? It is a much more rational position than believing in existence or inexistence of god.
7AgHnJ
No.562034
>>562029
I added theism is an active position.
7AgHnJ
No.562039
>>562038
Theists are stupid because they believe something without evidence. It is an irrational position.
dU2lFH
No.562043
>>562039
Then why are you so low IQ compared to them? only a self serving retard would think that.
7AgHnJ
No.562044
>>562043
Atheists have higher iq on average.
dU2lFH
No.562056
>>562044
Not true, your avg atheist is the fat low iq plebittor who seethes at high iq NASA scientists and astronauts being religious.
7AgHnJ
No.562064
>>562056
Stats disagree. Atheists are overrepresented among higher echeleons of society. A consequence of high iq is independent thinking. Religion and irrationality is for peasants and slaves.
dU2lFH
No.562065
>>562064
Kek you really are a midwit like most atheists.
7AgHnJ
No.562066
>>562065
You are the midwit given you dont understand the concept of averages and base your understanding of world on memes.
dU2lFH
No.562070
>>562066
Averages show that most of the scientific inventors have been religious just like NASA. Like I said you're just a self important retard like most atheists, don't worry even I was 14 years old like you.
IpGXJP
No.562071
>>561996
Non atheistic cultures are as I said, never let to flourish.
Except maybe zionism. That's why Israel is the only OECD nation with a positive birth rate.
dU2lFH
No.562072
>>562071
Zionist literally want the bring the next messiah/antichrist, they are not atheist you retard.
IpGXJP
No.562076
>>562004
>what's the point of being atheist if God exists
If god exists a an impersonal bring, then there's no point in worshipping him because you believing in him or not is irrelevant to grander narrative of things.
>>562071
Might I also add that the only atheistic cultures that are allowed to exist are those belonging to spiteful mutants like moolnivasi chamar atheism or libganduism.
7AgHnJ
No.562077
>>562070
Most higher iq throughout history have been non religious or independent thinkers actually. They valued religion because it was a sociopolitical institution for much of human history but their private beliefs were often unconventional and not in line with masses.
dU2lFH
No.562079
>>562076
They you just don't have a belief in him not that God doesn't exist which is what atheism is about.
IpGXJP
No.562080
>>562072
That's dispensationalism, seperate from Zionism. Most jews just treat them as useful idiots. Most jews on the other hand are irreligious. Israel in particular is unique in that left wing section of the population have higher fertility rate than the right wing.
Tho I doubt this is mainly because left wing in Israel is more pro islam so have many Arabs in their group. I think even in India, this might be the case, where people who vote left have higher fertility rate.
IpGXJP
No.562081
>>562077
This. For example, Hitler larped as a Christian while his private beliefs mostly seems to be that of Agnostic or some cultural larpagan.
dU2lFH
No.562083
>>562077
>Founder of big bang theory
A literal Christian priest
>Founder of electricity
Devoutly religious
>Founder of gravity and calculus
Devoutly religious
>Founder of GMO or modern genetics
Literal Christian priest again
>Scientist who developed the modern rocket
Religious
>First men on space and moon
Religious
Just to name a few, pls stop kanging on their inventions.
dU2lFH
No.562084
>>562080
>unique in that left wing section of the population have higher fertility rate than the right wing.
Not true, orthodox right wing jews are out breeding them.
dU2lFH
No.562088
>>562081
He was a insecure retard that didn't wanna believe that Germans were mudhut dwellers before christianity.
7AgHnJ
No.562093
>>562083
I think you lack reading comprehension. Religion for much of human history has been an important social institution. Many atheists have lived and died religious lives because religion/divine sanction for much of human history was intertwined with all aspects of society be it politics (divine right of king and populism), community, marriage, laws and even education. Religion was inseparable from those things.
dU2lFH
No.562100
>>562093
>atheists have lived and died religious lives because religion/divine sanction for much of human history
Stop the cope, not an atheist if they believed in God and honoured him.
7AgHnJ
No.562103
>>562081
Same for politicians. How they dont believe half the stuff they pretend to believe in due to populism.
7AgHnJ
No.562105
>>562100
Are you christian?
dU2lFH
No.562107
>>562105
No, Just cause most scientists have been christian (religious) doesn't mean I am.
7AgHnJ
No.562113
>>562107
So why were they christians exactly? Did it have nothing to do with the fact they lived in christian societies?
dU2lFH
No.562120
>>562113
Or maybe those christian societies encouraged science, all those men could have said just because they studied in christian universities or schools doesn't mean they were christian but they specifically said they were religious (christian) even after that. So they were not atheists, science has always been a domain of high iq thiests.
LQmFXL
No.562124
>>562083
I am not in position to talk about each one. But I know a major motivation for Gregor mendel(genetics discoverer) to become priest was to continue his studies and research. An example for you to see how deeply religion has been intertwined with other social institutions fot much of history.
dU2lFH
No.562128
>>562124
He was a monk who also happened to be a professor at a university, being a monk was his personal choice. The church wasn't the one asking him to be a professor at a university.

XPbSgX
No.562132
>>561950(OP)
Everything mainstream goes to shit
WsvQq6
No.562137
>>562132
This is mostly true, but in this case, it's just that atheism went from controversial in the era of pre-boomer traditionalist to the state relegion of modern progressives.
U5w09W
No.562138
>>562128
Read more about him. He depended on church to fund his studies.

XPbSgX
No.562143
>>562137
Religion is pretty good to bind people through mythos, tho the state can do that in the ideal communist society
dU2lFH
No.562146
>>562138
So the church saw that he had a keen eye for science and encouraged it? He could have left being a priest after becoming a professor but he didn't. Also kek at doubting a literal Priest to not be religious.
V9YvBX
No.562147
>>562143
Or fascism.
WsvQq6
No.562149
>>562143
Even more than just those cynical terms, Relegion gives people a purpose beyond themselves. People need that. Hedonism isn't going to fulfill your higher needs.
V9YvBX
No.562150
>>562146
Almost 20% of Christian priests admits to be secretly atheistic.
V9YvBX
No.562152
>>562149
Hedonism can if you live in an ideal communist ie post scarcity society.
Which will never happen.
dU2lFH
No.562154
>>562150
Accha.
U5w09W
No.562156
>>562143
Religion has also been form of mental healthcare industry for much of history. Your places of worship were community centres and family priest was essentially your counsellor.
V9YvBX
No.562157

XPbSgX
No.562158
>>562149
Passion and hobbies can drive that too, I don't really worship anyone or care about religious rituals but I know my goal
dU2lFH
No.562161
>>562157
>Exception to the rule

XPbSgX
No.562162
>>562156
Yea, maybe in a primitive society, just visiting a psychiatrist would be better int he modern day tho, I've seen these babas and self proclaimed indic philosopher gurus fuck up lives of and torture people with OCD
V9YvBX
No.562163
>>562154
I'm not joking
4VXRxm
No.562165
>>562077
Newton spend half of his life on researching biblical scriptures
I you don't trust me search about it, Newton was obsessed with Bible wanted to understand it's hidden meaning
Maxwell and faraday were devoted Christians and Euler was devoted catholic
WsvQq6
No.562168
>>562152
Even then, it will not fulfill you. Your brain might trick you otherwise, but your soul have higher purpose. It wants to be part of something bigger than just you.
>>562158
Only if you can create not consume. And most creators got inspiration from things directly or indirectly from religion.
V9YvBX
No.562169
>>562162
Statistically visiting a priest is shown to be better than visiting a psychologist.
Tho these stoodies happened in Western nations where religious fags aren't allowed to be as uppity while soycologists usually belong to the state progressive religion and excaberate their own political shit on their patients like encouraging women to divorce their husbands, etc.... so it might be different in lundia.

XPbSgX
No.562170
>>562147
Depends on man I support command economies + eugenics + abolition of families, if I go to Marxist communities they call me Nazi, if I go to right wing communities they call me Communist
dU2lFH
No.562171
>>562163
>>562164
That's just the anglican(British) church being a decadent organisation that they are hiring literal atheists to be priests. Doesn't help the fact that church was literally started so the king could be allowed to have multiple wives as the Catholics weren't allowing it. This is not a case for orthodox, catholic or other protestants, no offense but this is a UK thing.
U5w09W
No.562175
>>562146
Cmon man now you are just coping. You couldnt be an academic back then without being in good book of church. Now we have scholarships to fund bright minds but back then you depended on church for funds as church was inseparable from state funding. I am not claiming he was an atheist (only he could tell us). I am just showing how powerful the social force is and you cant divorce yourself from religion if it is inseparable from society.

XPbSgX
No.562177
>>562168
Communism is inherently anti-consumerism; the only reason it has not historically worked is because they did not destroy family structures and implement Eugenics for undesirable traits
dU2lFH
No.562179
>>562175
>You couldnt be an academic back then without being in good book of church. Now we have scholarships to fund bright minds but back then you depended on church for funds as church was inseparable
That wouldn't make sense as to why most NASA scientists and astronauts are christian, they aren't funded by any church yet they keep reciting the bible in space or while building the rocket. The first the the astronauts of apollo 8 did after taking the first pic of the earth was to recite the book of Genesis of the Bible.
WsvQq6
No.562181
>>562177
Communism will not work unless we have reached post-scarcity which is something even Marx said that only capitalism will take us.
In any case, any purely materialistic ideological will not give humans being deeper answers to their existence.
dU2lFH
No.562182
>>562179
Thing the*
U5w09W
No.562183
>>562165
>Newton spend half of his life on researching biblical scriptures.
Thats just what curious minds do. They investigate. He lived back when we didnt know much of world, evolution and many secrets of universe. Doesnt change the fact private beliefs of the greatest minds in history havent been in line with the populist beliefs.
dU2lFH
No.562184
>>562183
Yaara no offense but at this point you are just coping for the sake of it. Literal whataboutism.

XPbSgX
No.562185
>>562181
Define "deeper answers to their existence", metaphysics is bs honestly, the only reason religions served a purpose and thrived is because they essentially provided the tribal/group identity our brains have evolved to seek for the masses.
Commieism can work if you weed out selfish traits + have all the resources available in your land since then you won't need to trade with outside powers.
U5w09W
No.562186
>>562179
>why most NASA scientists and astronauts are christian.
How do you know? Did you hand them private questionnaires.
dU2lFH
No.562191
>>562186
Ah yes they are definitely not Christian, that's why the Artemis astronauts thanked Jesus before losing communication as they reach the moon. Now you are just arguing for the sake of it.
U5w09W
No.562193
>>562184
You are the one coping. I remember researching about various religions for hours in my teens despite being non religious myself. You are not an INTP like me if you think its big deal.

XPbSgX
No.562195
>>562186
They could be, being good at calculations and scientific intuition doesn't make you right on other topics too... Human brains are inherently irrational, they will justify everything as long as it confirms existing memories and their previous actions

XPbSgX
No.562196
>>562193
Everyone likes a good story
dU2lFH
No.562197
>>562186
Even you plebittor atheist bhangi can attest they are all religious.
U5w09W
No.562200
>>562191
I ask again. Got any stats? Or are you going to keep yapping about random stuff. I am not a retard like you so i base my understanding on statistics not some talking points.
dU2lFH
No.562201
>>562193
Why the fuck are you projecting your beliefs onto them? no wonder all atheists are self important retards.
dU2lFH
No.562206
>>562200
>Literally give multiple examples of them being religious
>Ummm they're not religious cause I say so
Are you retarded genuinely? No point in arguing with midwits.
WsvQq6
No.562207
>>562185
>the only reason religions served a purpose and thrived is because they essentially provided the tribal/group identity our brains have evolved to seek for the masses.
and why do you think people do that?
Think about it, wouldn't evolution have made those traits die out over time if man didn't need them?
>Commieism can work if you weed out selfish traits
Politics is to reach an ideal. To start from one is fantasy.


































































