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Anonymous

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q0ZEB9

No.561950

When did atheism become uncool or retarded?

Anonymous

ARYA

xIHiIl

No.561954

>>561950(OP)

its just that online atheists are retarded , i havent had any problems with atheists irl

Anonymous

IN

q0ZEB9

No.561955

>>561954

Seems like even the amount of atheists irl have also decreased.

Anonymous

IN

CpHhnX

No.561957

>>561950(OP)

You are describing reddit atheists

Anonymous

IN

q0ZEB9

No.561961

>>561957

They were and are the forefront of atheism tho.

Anonymous

IN

aloG48

No.561965

>>561950(OP)

It's the fate of every idea. First it is domain of few 'nerds' then becomes normified as it gathers more followers until it's made welcoming for giga normoids and women which is when the usual retardation and cringe stuff done by them comes up.

Anonymous

ARYA

xIHiIl

No.561968

>>561955

yep , being agnostic makes the most sense

Anonymous

IN

q0ZEB9

No.561969

>>561965

>Picrel

Sad to see that happen to looksmaxxing as well, can't have shit till foids and their simp beta orbitors exist.

Anonymous

IN

EGwRAU

No.561972

>>561968

but gnostic bible is great

Anonymous

IN

0cY2a3

No.561973

>>561950(OP)

Since the day the neo buddhists aka bhimta started spamming cringe low iq atheist memes on every SM

Anonymous

IN

aloG48

No.561974

>>561973

That's when atheists started losing aura in the Indian internet but they started losing it in broader global internet before that.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.561977

>>561974

I think people mainly got tired of how annoying they were, like purposely searching religious people minding their own business and mocking them. Or being general attentionfags saying they don't care about religion and don't tell others they are atheist but seething at their religious friends or family members.

Anonymous

IN

aloG48

No.561979

>>561955

Seems like they're declining irl as well. I remember back in 00s, we being the fastest growing group.

If atheists needs to have any long lasting cultural impact, they need to address the woman question instead of assuming everyone regardless of gender are just cogs in a machine instead of accepting every rand who left her religion because their parents didn't want her to be a randi.

Pajaat saab

!PQjJ0TDNsAFb+B8

ROJR

GzmvOm

No.561981

>>561950(OP)

Ur avg atheist is liberal commie or some handoo bad saar moolnivasi type shit

Even im an atheist or more to say agnostic but i dont parade taht around

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.561982

>>561968

Most atheists are agnostics themselves. You clearly dont understand the meaning of those words.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.561984

>>561979

U can't teach your wife and kids to be atheist, it's a form of thought not a religion.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.561985

>>561979

Atheists are declining due to higher birth rates of religious folks.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.561986

>>561982

Agnostics are fence sitting cowards.

Anonymous

IN

aloG48

No.561987

>>561984

You can definitely have a non theistic culture but most of it is just racial/ethnic nationalism which is considered a big no no. Even in pajeet land you'll see people seething when they identify with their (indian)/ethnicity first. Leftoids want everyone to identify as 'Indian' first and rightoids want everyone to identify as 'Hindu' first.

Anonymous

IN

aloG48

No.561988

>>561985

And?

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.561989

>>561987

>non theistic culture

You're just turning atheism into a religion, imagine becoming the thing you hate.

Anonymous

IN

aloG48

No.561990

>>561989

???

Just because I hate going and prostrating myself to some imaginary being don't mean I hate myself lol

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.561996

>>561990

Religion will always exist in some form with whatever God people worship, there's no culture that is athiestic. Keep that shit to yourself that's the point.

Anonymous

IN

AJzbvA

No.561998

>>561973

>>561981

>>561954

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Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562001

>>561986

Are they? I think most people dont even understand the meaning of agnosticism and atheism. They assume atheism is belief in no god and agnosticism is being uncertain of god when in reality theism-atheism are belief positions whereas agnosticism is knowledge position.

A-theism is just lack of belief in god and agnosticism means you make no claims of knowledge. They are two separate things. All religious folks are agnostics because their faith is their belief not their knowledge and many atheists are agnostics because they simply reject belief in god. They do NOT CLAIM there is no god.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562004

>>562001

Atheists don't believe God exists not that they reject God. what's the point of being atheist if God exists, then you're just a retard for not believing in him.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562015

>>562004

I said atheists reject belief in god. All atheists and all theists are agnostics actually. People who are uncertain on existence of god are also atheists because they dont believe in existence of god which is what atheism is.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562017

>>562015

Well no one can truly be atheist until we search up the whole universe and all the different dimensions & find no evidence of God.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562026

>>562023

>is a passive position which is why those folks who say they are uncertain

That's why they are fence sitting cowards.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562028

>>562017

Atheism is merely absence of belief in god. The burden of proof is not on them. It is a passive position which is why those folks who say they are uncertain and mistakenly identify as agnostics are also atheists actually.

It is the believers/theists actually whose belief is an active position.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562029

>>562028

Did you just delete your post to repost it with a plebbit paragraph?

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562030

>>562026

How so? It is a much more rational position than believing in existence or inexistence of god.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562034

>>562029

I added theism is an active position.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562038

>>562030

>>562034

Only self important midwits are atheist, High IQ Chads are all thiest/religious.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562039

>>562038

Theists are stupid because they believe something without evidence. It is an irrational position.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562043

>>562039

Then why are you so low IQ compared to them? only a self serving retard would think that.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562044

>>562043

Atheists have higher iq on average.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562056

>>562044

Not true, your avg atheist is the fat low iq plebittor who seethes at high iq NASA scientists and astronauts being religious.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562064

>>562056

Stats disagree. Atheists are overrepresented among higher echeleons of society. A consequence of high iq is independent thinking. Religion and irrationality is for peasants and slaves.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562065

>>562064

Kek you really are a midwit like most atheists.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562066

>>562065

You are the midwit given you dont understand the concept of averages and base your understanding of world on memes.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562070

>>562066

Averages show that most of the scientific inventors have been religious just like NASA. Like I said you're just a self important retard like most atheists, don't worry even I was 14 years old like you.

Anonymous

IN

IpGXJP

No.562071

>>561996

Non atheistic cultures are as I said, never let to flourish.

Except maybe zionism. That's why Israel is the only OECD nation with a positive birth rate.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562072

>>562071

Zionist literally want the bring the next messiah/antichrist, they are not atheist you retard.

Anonymous

IN

IpGXJP

No.562076

>>562004

>what's the point of being atheist if God exists

If god exists a an impersonal bring, then there's no point in worshipping him because you believing in him or not is irrelevant to grander narrative of things.

>>562071

Might I also add that the only atheistic cultures that are allowed to exist are those belonging to spiteful mutants like moolnivasi chamar atheism or libganduism.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562077

>>562070

Most higher iq throughout history have been non religious or independent thinkers actually. They valued religion because it was a sociopolitical institution for much of human history but their private beliefs were often unconventional and not in line with masses.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562079

>>562076

They you just don't have a belief in him not that God doesn't exist which is what atheism is about.

Anonymous

IN

IpGXJP

No.562080

>>562072

That's dispensationalism, seperate from Zionism. Most jews just treat them as useful idiots. Most jews on the other hand are irreligious. Israel in particular is unique in that left wing section of the population have higher fertility rate than the right wing.

Tho I doubt this is mainly because left wing in Israel is more pro islam so have many Arabs in their group. I think even in India, this might be the case, where people who vote left have higher fertility rate.

Anonymous

IN

IpGXJP

No.562081

>>562077

This. For example, Hitler larped as a Christian while his private beliefs mostly seems to be that of Agnostic or some cultural larpagan.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562083

>>562077

>Founder of big bang theory

A literal Christian priest

>Founder of electricity

Devoutly religious

>Founder of gravity and calculus

Devoutly religious

>Founder of GMO or modern genetics

Literal Christian priest again

>Scientist who developed the modern rocket

Religious

>First men on space and moon

Religious

Just to name a few, pls stop kanging on their inventions.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562084

>>562080

>unique in that left wing section of the population have higher fertility rate than the right wing.

Not true, orthodox right wing jews are out breeding them.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562088

>>562081

He was a insecure retard that didn't wanna believe that Germans were mudhut dwellers before christianity.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562093

>>562083

I think you lack reading comprehension. Religion for much of human history has been an important social institution. Many atheists have lived and died religious lives because religion/divine sanction for much of human history was intertwined with all aspects of society be it politics (divine right of king and populism), community, marriage, laws and even education. Religion was inseparable from those things.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562100

>>562093

>atheists have lived and died religious lives because religion/divine sanction for much of human history

Stop the cope, not an atheist if they believed in God and honoured him.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562103

>>562081

Same for politicians. How they dont believe half the stuff they pretend to believe in due to populism.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562105

>>562100

Are you christian?

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562107

>>562105

No, Just cause most scientists have been christian (religious) doesn't mean I am.

Anonymous

IN

7AgHnJ

No.562113

>>562107

So why were they christians exactly? Did it have nothing to do with the fact they lived in christian societies?

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562120

>>562113

Or maybe those christian societies encouraged science, all those men could have said just because they studied in christian universities or schools doesn't mean they were christian but they specifically said they were religious (christian) even after that. So they were not atheists, science has always been a domain of high iq thiests.

Anonymous

IN

LQmFXL

No.562124

>>562083

I am not in position to talk about each one. But I know a major motivation for Gregor mendel(genetics discoverer) to become priest was to continue his studies and research. An example for you to see how deeply religion has been intertwined with other social institutions fot much of history.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562128

>>562124

He was a monk who also happened to be a professor at a university, being a monk was his personal choice. The church wasn't the one asking him to be a professor at a university.

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562132

>>561950(OP)

Everything mainstream goes to shit

Anonymous

IN

WsvQq6

No.562137

>>562132

This is mostly true, but in this case, it's just that atheism went from controversial in the era of pre-boomer traditionalist to the state relegion of modern progressives.

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562138

>>562128

Read more about him. He depended on church to fund his studies.

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562143

>>562137

Religion is pretty good to bind people through mythos, tho the state can do that in the ideal communist society

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562146

>>562138

So the church saw that he had a keen eye for science and encouraged it? He could have left being a priest after becoming a professor but he didn't. Also kek at doubting a literal Priest to not be religious.

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562147

>>562143

Or fascism.

Anonymous

IN

WsvQq6

No.562149

>>562143

Even more than just those cynical terms, Relegion gives people a purpose beyond themselves. People need that. Hedonism isn't going to fulfill your higher needs.

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562150

>>562146

Almost 20% of Christian priests admits to be secretly atheistic.

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562152

>>562149

Hedonism can if you live in an ideal communist ie post scarcity society.

Which will never happen.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562154

>>562150

Accha.

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562156

>>562143

Religion has also been form of mental healthcare industry for much of history. Your places of worship were community centres and family priest was essentially your counsellor.

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562157

>>562146

>>562150

Case in point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Meslier

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562158

>>562149

Passion and hobbies can drive that too, I don't really worship anyone or care about religious rituals but I know my goal

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562161

>>562157

>Exception to the rule

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562162

>>562156

Yea, maybe in a primitive society, just visiting a psychiatrist would be better int he modern day tho, I've seen these babas and self proclaimed indic philosopher gurus fuck up lives of and torture people with OCD

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562163

>>562154

I'm not joking

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562164

>>562161

see >>562163

Anonymous

IN

4VXRxm

No.562165

>>562077

Newton spend half of his life on researching biblical scriptures

I you don't trust me search about it, Newton was obsessed with Bible wanted to understand it's hidden meaning

Maxwell and faraday were devoted Christians and Euler was devoted catholic

Anonymous

IN

WsvQq6

No.562168

>>562152

Even then, it will not fulfill you. Your brain might trick you otherwise, but your soul have higher purpose. It wants to be part of something bigger than just you.

>>562158

Only if you can create not consume. And most creators got inspiration from things directly or indirectly from religion.

Anonymous

IN

V9YvBX

No.562169

>>562162

Statistically visiting a priest is shown to be better than visiting a psychologist.

Tho these stoodies happened in Western nations where religious fags aren't allowed to be as uppity while soycologists usually belong to the state progressive religion and excaberate their own political shit on their patients like encouraging women to divorce their husbands, etc.... so it might be different in lundia.

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562170

>>562147

Depends on man I support command economies + eugenics + abolition of families, if I go to Marxist communities they call me Nazi, if I go to right wing communities they call me Communist

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562171

>>562163

>>562164

That's just the anglican(British) church being a decadent organisation that they are hiring literal atheists to be priests. Doesn't help the fact that church was literally started so the king could be allowed to have multiple wives as the Catholics weren't allowing it. This is not a case for orthodox, catholic or other protestants, no offense but this is a UK thing.

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562175

>>562146

Cmon man now you are just coping. You couldnt be an academic back then without being in good book of church. Now we have scholarships to fund bright minds but back then you depended on church for funds as church was inseparable from state funding. I am not claiming he was an atheist (only he could tell us). I am just showing how powerful the social force is and you cant divorce yourself from religion if it is inseparable from society.

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562177

>>562168

Communism is inherently anti-consumerism; the only reason it has not historically worked is because they did not destroy family structures and implement Eugenics for undesirable traits

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562179

>>562175

>You couldnt be an academic back then without being in good book of church. Now we have scholarships to fund bright minds but back then you depended on church for funds as church was inseparable

That wouldn't make sense as to why most NASA scientists and astronauts are christian, they aren't funded by any church yet they keep reciting the bible in space or while building the rocket. The first the the astronauts of apollo 8 did after taking the first pic of the earth was to recite the book of Genesis of the Bible.

Anonymous

IN

WsvQq6

No.562181

>>562177

Communism will not work unless we have reached post-scarcity which is something even Marx said that only capitalism will take us.

In any case, any purely materialistic ideological will not give humans being deeper answers to their existence.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562182

>>562179

Thing the*

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562183

>>562165

>Newton spend half of his life on researching biblical scriptures.

Thats just what curious minds do. They investigate. He lived back when we didnt know much of world, evolution and many secrets of universe. Doesnt change the fact private beliefs of the greatest minds in history havent been in line with the populist beliefs.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562184

>>562183

Yaara no offense but at this point you are just coping for the sake of it. Literal whataboutism.

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562185

>>562181

Define "deeper answers to their existence", metaphysics is bs honestly, the only reason religions served a purpose and thrived is because they essentially provided the tribal/group identity our brains have evolved to seek for the masses.

Commieism can work if you weed out selfish traits + have all the resources available in your land since then you won't need to trade with outside powers.

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562186

>>562179

>why most NASA scientists and astronauts are christian.

How do you know? Did you hand them private questionnaires.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562191

>>562186

Ah yes they are definitely not Christian, that's why the Artemis astronauts thanked Jesus before losing communication as they reach the moon. Now you are just arguing for the sake of it.

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562193

>>562184

You are the one coping. I remember researching about various religions for hours in my teens despite being non religious myself. You are not an INTP like me if you think its big deal.

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562195

>>562186

They could be, being good at calculations and scientific intuition doesn't make you right on other topics too... Human brains are inherently irrational, they will justify everything as long as it confirms existing memories and their previous actions

Anonymous

UN

XPbSgX

No.562196

>>562193

Everyone likes a good story

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562197

>>562186

Even you plebittor atheist bhangi can attest they are all religious.

Anonymous

IN

U5w09W

No.562200

>>562191

I ask again. Got any stats? Or are you going to keep yapping about random stuff. I am not a retard like you so i base my understanding on statistics not some talking points.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562201

>>562193

Why the fuck are you projecting your beliefs onto them? no wonder all atheists are self important retards.

Anonymous

IN

dU2lFH

No.562206

>>562200

>Literally give multiple examples of them being religious

>Ummm they're not religious cause I say so

Are you retarded genuinely? No point in arguing with midwits.

Anonymous

IN

WsvQq6

No.562207

>>562185

>the only reason religions served a purpose and thrived is because they essentially provided the tribal/group identity our brains have evolved to seek for the masses.

and why do you think people do that?

Think about it, wouldn't evolution have made those traits die out over time if man didn't need them?

>Commieism can work if you weed out selfish traits

Politics is to reach an ideal. To start from one is fantasy.

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