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UCs should be grateful for reservations
9lgDI7
No.4352
If you look at any countrys history, most of them would have had a revolt/revolution where the feudal landlords, royals, spiritual leaders etc were humiliated, brutally tortured and/or murdered. Like the French revolution, cultural revolution in china, communist uprising in the russian empire, etc. Regardless of politics, whether they are right wing or left wing, the first thing the new elite did was to mobilize the peasants and overthrow the traditional ruling class.
None of that happened here in a large scale. The worst thing to happen is reservations which isnt even that bad. The actually intelligent UCs in positions of power understood this, which is why they promoted "non violence" by gandhi(to defuse any attempt at revolts) and gave away crumbs of power through reservations while still retaining most of the wealth.
Instead of whining about muh reservations, UCs interested in their own well being should use their caste networks, generational wealth, etc. You wouldnt have any of this if you keep poking the anthill and a revolution boils over.
P3Kptx
No.4353
>>4352(OP)
>retard comparing aristocrats with regulars of a population
>ignores the colonialism
>ignores the seed of division laid down by british using divide and conquer
You are seething about a population which is almost 20% of India, ignoring the meme category that is OBCs.
V+lJ1g
No.4354
>>4352(OP)
Časte discrimination was aggravated and I may say even invented by British, most of the princely states had shudra rulers. The problem was never this bug before invaders and people lived with harmony.
You know it may sound cliche, but India and hinduism was different
SxUT0I
No.4355
execution happened to aristocrats and ruling class which wasnt even 1% of total population while here, UCs were always 20% or so of population. you simply cant kill 20% out of nowhere and its not like its just UC who did it, it was everyone, a shudra would consider chamars and bhangis below him.
only solution is slow death of castes due to modernity, anything else will turn india into africa with same civil wars and 100 different vassals for Europeans, americans and chinese.
nFMYnW
No.4356
>>4353
>retard comparing aristocrats with regulars of a population
Not just the aristocrats. But also the feudal landlords, bureaucrats, priestly class, etc. Most UCs would fall into some of these categories.
>ignores the colonialism
What does that have to do with this? I am talking about post independence politics, which should have been clear as this is about reservations.
>You are seething
I dont, but plenty of people are indeed seething hard enough that removing reservations will surely be the end of UCs.
SxUT0I
No.4357
>>4355
also this whole meme of UC and LC is retarded in itself, caste heirarchies kept changing.
SxUT0I
No.4358
>>4356
reservations will eventually die out due to privatization and self awareness.
i2eRtN
No.4359
>>4355
Any revolt/revolution would affect UCs the most as they form a disproportionately high percentage of the ruling class is my point.
i2eRtN
No.4361
>>4358
Yes, that should happen naturally, not by UCs forcing/protesting against the government to do so.
SxUT0I
No.4362
>>4359
there wont be any revolts either, it will all die out naturally, people will intermarry out of their own will and choices. with urbanization people wouldnt even want to associate with meme tags like "GC" "Backward caste".
7PtuX1
No.4363
>>4362
True, i am just saying that whining about reservations everywhere and trying to remove it would a blunder and would actually be against UC interests
zhdKgl
No.4364
>>4352(OP)
Class isn't caste. There are lots of poorfag uc, retarded k2a OP.
P3Kptx
No.4365
>>4356
>feudal landlords,
Those are the ones who literally reservation, check OBC category.
>priestly class
Highest number of sc/st acts are registered against OBC landlawdas.
Seethe against brahmins got the wind because brahmin boomers were very easy target.
>colonialism has nothing to do with it
What nonsense? It has everything to do with it, a plundered mess of india in 1947 with barely any population which was educated, barely able to feed almost everyone being poor.
Just enough propaganda and everyone can be pit against each other and made believe that the pitiable state of them is due to another superior group. british somehow moved without a scratch.
People who wrote these oppression articles were literally stooges and bootlickers of british, starting with bengalis then next group.
7PtuX1
No.4366
>>4364
Clas is strongly correlated to caste
>lots of poorfag uc
Number of poorfag shudras and dalits would be magnitudes higher.
You are just delusional if you think a communist style revolt wouldnt have hurted UCs.
As i said, theres a reason why actually intelligent and shrewd UCs in power brought in reservations. If retards like you were in power, UCs would have been genocided.
+Exj2h
No.4367
>>4352(OP)
One single uppercaste landowner can btfo 15 dalits, and now with advanced weapons it wouldnt take more then 6 months to re establish manuwaadi bharatvarhsa
xtYg+D
No.4368
>>4365
OBC is a meme category. Many powerful landowning castes that should be UC and would have been executed in revolts are now considered to be OBC. Besides, UCs held even more land than these groups during and before independence, and this only changed due to land reform. Bihar became so anti UC because land reform didnt happen there.
I didnt even target brahmins explicitly. Stop it with your persecution fetish.
nhc1qA
No.4369
+Exj2h
No.4370
>>4369
Ask what happened to dalits and shudras when they revolted against bhumihar landlords
nhc1qA
No.4371
>>4370
Doesnt matter.
Ranvir sena lost, yadavs won. Deal with it.
In the long run, the demographic majority will always win with sheer numbers.
Qq1gDa
No.4372
>>4371
> ये डेटा बिहार कास्ट सर्वे से है।
जिसमें
3.6 % ब्राह्मणों के पास 16% ज़मीन है
3.4% राजपूतों के पास 19% ज़मीन है
2.8% भूमिहारों के पास 39% ज़मीन है
0.6% कायस्थों के पास 4% ज़मीन है
इन सबके पास आबादी से कई गुना ज़्यादा ज़मीन है।
इसको कहते हैं ओवर रिप्रजेंटेशन
14% यादवों के पास 7% ज़मीन है
5.2 % पासवान के पास 1% ज़मीन है
3.9 % मुसहर के पास 0.2% ज़मीन है
CdvFuH
No.4373
>>4372
This wont remain so forever. In fact i am petty sure that this data is outdated and more land would have shifted to LC hands by now.
And the truth of the matter is, UCs are getting raped hard by the yadavs these days and they cry about it every where.
+Exj2h
No.4374
>>4373
This is from recent survey
>>4373
>And the truth of the matter is, UCs are getting raped hard by the yadavs these days and they cry about it every where.
Nice try chamar, firstly yadavas of bihar are shudra cowherders larping as yadav, secondaly bihari yadavas are poor asf and migrate to other states for work, they think of themselves as superior by bullying dalits,
And no UC bihari ik is afraid of them, there would be some cases where 100+ dalits chimpout on few UCs thats it
SwkYuQ
No.4375
>>4358
>reservations will eventually die out due to privatization and self awareness.
>He doesn't know
SwkYuQ
No.4376
>>4367
>it wouldnt take more then 6 months to re establish manuwaadi bharatvarhsa
More like a month, is UC'd actually bothered.
SwkYuQ
No.4377
>>4368
>Bihar became so anti UC because land reform didnt happen there.
Bihar became anti UC because it is full of the subhumans and Lalu realised like most OBC, that the LC are brain dead retards and he can take the absolute advantage of it. He did, and they went on to allow like a faggot.
SwkYuQ
No.4378
>>4369
Lalu Padav is a meme tbh, people don't fear him or respect him, they have to comply with the law created due to self destructive empathy and the mistakes of UC's who didn't realise this is what happens when you give power to subhumans.
SwkYuQ
No.4379
>>4374
Yadavs sit on the floor arround the regions of UP and UP in presence of actually Upper Caste, it is well known fact that Bihari buffalo herders just took the surname yadav with no connection to Yadu clan kek.
+Exj2h
No.4380
>>4379
Actual yadavas of haryana rajasthan and west up hate bihari yadava
O9kRT1
No.4383
>>4352(OP)
General are roughly 20% of population. Upper layers of OBC are wealthy farmers with large landholdings and tradition of joining army as soldiers who have been the biggest perpetrators of caste violence themselves. Good luck revolting against half of the country who have more resources, have better organisational skills, higher iq and overrepresentation in military. It wont be a revolution or uprising of masses. It would be a civil war with brootal consequences for the losing side.
BRnbnJ
No.4384
>>4380
Reasonably so, since anyone took the name of Yadava arround east UP and Bihar. I would feel the same. Hope thr caste census knows the difference between both this time yaar.
>>4383
LC's need to understand they continue to exist because we let them. Even OBC and LC unity is a meme, General Shudras won't even share a room with Bhimtals, and like you said OBC commit the largest majority of violence against bhimtal (very based), it would be a one sided genocide if it ever came to it.
zhdKgl
No.4467
>>4366
A communist revolution will never happen because it will hurt the victim mentality of ST and SC. Trying to use the aesthetic and arguing about correlation means you're a massive fucking fraud, you inbred k2a.
qFHnhA
No.4498
ttoPOe
No.4523
ttoPOe
No.4524
>>4498
>He thinks LC who are not SC and ST and do not have gibs don't take Bhimtal subhumanhumans.
Lmao yaar, retard half of OBC are also Dwija, why the fuck are you creating fosters bhach for your imaginary friends? Seethe somewhere else.
