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Krs+mj
No.327979
>>327977(OP)
how much steppe, chg, aasi
s+i+PP
No.327980
>>327977(OP)
Share his photo
4EqaWX
No.327985
jDeHxn
No.327987
>>327986
It costs around 15k to get one of these test, people aren't that stupid
4EqaWX
No.327988
>>327979
True regional dna is not relevant, it's most the cline that matters so the admix is much more accurate. Since we know jatt had one fifth of Scandinavian dna, do Scandinavian have one fifth of jatt dna? 
/moqYG
No.327989
>>327987
>Scandinavian
>Irish, Scottish. Welsh
You can't be serious with that, these are not genetic classifications.
jDeHxn
No.327993
>>327989
These tests are based more on similarity than source of origin so understandble
Jaat from UP dna sample
4EqaWX
No.327994
>>327989
That's what makes this test worthless, a good dna test focuses on generic classification, how your ancestors migrated and who you distant relative share region will is less relevant overall
/moqYG
No.327995
>>327993
So what you're saying is that, this jaat from UP is more similar to people of UK than the ones in between? Like the middle east? Turks? How does it directly jump to Scandinavia and UK?
4EqaWX
No.327996
/moqYG
No.327997
He's baiting
jDeHxn
No.327998
>>327995
People in between are chinks and semites so yes
IqjCrD
No.327999
>>327977(OP)
>>327979
>>327980
>>327982
>>327983
>>327985
>>327986
>>327987
>>327988
>>327989
>>327992
>>327993
>>327994
these tests dont show your ancestory but similarity to those populations, so when a pajeet gets x% Irish, welsh, scandinavian, Iranian etc it just means there are pajeets in those places who are similar to them.
if you want to know you ancestry look in the mirror, or at your parents/grandparents.
jDeHxn
No.328002
>>327997
Stfu
CYNZ+n
No.328006
>>327999
>it just means there are pajeets in those places who are similar to them
isnt that kind of antithetical for a dna test? if a rakesh goes to nordic countries and does this test then he should get 100% south/west asian results unless he actually shares genes with nordidcels
jDeHxn
No.328010
>>327999
>pajeets in those places who are similar to them.
? No
It just represents proximity of populations.
IqjCrD
No.328013
>>328006
you didn't understand me
imagine you are running such DNA ancestory company.
assume you have database of 99 samples, a pajeet comes to get his DNA tested - 100 total samples.
let's say 40 are those from EU, 20 are from middle east and 40 are from india.
now you have to understand 40 from EU doesn't mean it's all white Europeans, there can be Indian, African, etc samples, assume 4 of those European samples are of Indians living in Europe, now the pajeet that just got tested will have 10% EU (similarity)
most of these companies are literally run by Jews btw and they sell data.
4EqaWX
No.328014
>>327995
If it's doing it on basis of similarity rather than on basis of origin, it means most Jaats from UP are plapping UK girls, while most Jaats from Punjab are plapping Scandinavian girls. Since their dna would tally with other Jaats in those region, it is drawing conclusion probably based on that, it is pretty retarded, but great meme material
IqjCrD
No.328016
>>328011
Again this is BS, the reason for this is that a lot of merchant bohra muslims and even hindus live in East amd South African countries, it is just showing similarity with the available number of samples from that region that company has.
jDeHxn
No.328019
>>328016
Not BS, this guy is mixed with siddhi peoples who migrated to gujrat during the medieval era
jDeHxn
No.328020
jDeHxn
No.328024
>>328015
He's retarded. By that logic every european should get native Americans sample because their people immigrated to the Americas. But that's doesn't happen
IqjCrD
No.328025
>>328015
yup its a scam, infact it is front for DNA sample collection, 23andme is one of the most popular such company and it founded by susan wojciciki (she died from cancer), ex ceo of youtube, she was ex wife of sergey brin of Google.
jDeHxn
No.328026
IqjCrD
No.328027
>>328019
siddis were actually slaves brought in my muslim merchants.
jDeHxn
No.328028
>>328027
Yes. And they were negrows, that's why this gujjewrat gets those, again proving that this dna test is accurate
IqjCrD
No.328029
>>328024
American isn't counted as ethnicity in these tests retard, all Americans get Irish, Scandinavian, English, Italian, Spanish etc similarities.
n80f/j
No.328032
>>327977(OP)
Wrong model
IqjCrD
No.328034
>>328028
siddis have nothing in common with any Indian, that gujjew is getting similarities with other gujjews living in East and South Africa.
jDeHxn
No.328035
>>328029
I said native Americans, not AMERICANS. and Europeans don't get those, even though the whites from pretty much fucked with them since the 16th century. That's where your logic falls apart
jDeHxn
No.328038
>>328034
He's mixed yaar low iq, is it that difficult to understand?
Part gujjew dna and another part which comes from the negrows his ancestors mixed with and not gujjews living in Africa. And even in that case, I don't remember the last time gujjews populated 50% of eastern Africa by your logic
4EqaWX
No.328048
jDeHxn
No.328052
4EqaWX
No.328053
>>328019
>Not BS, this guy is mixed with siddhi peoples who migrated to gujrat during the medieval era
Holy shit this retard believes this lmao, this moron didn't read anything in the thread that clarified why the results are so retarded 
4EqaWX
No.328055
jDeHxn
No.328056
>>328053
I read and proved his points wrong with several references with Europeans and native Americans, yet to recieve a reply from him. You are free to dickride him, tho
4EqaWX
No.328057
>>328038
>Part gujjew dna
Gujjew dna jaisa kuch na hove hai Pajeet. Gene components are categorised by clones such as ASI, Sino and ANI (IVC and Steppe) which, all the native DNA is a combination of these four in essense. It is fundamentally impossible to tell if a Gujjew was from Gujarat or Rajasthan if his ancestors migrated from one to another and kept marrying within same caste.
jDeHxn
No.328058
>>328055
>Lmao, absolute state of retards who can't into abstract thinking
See, that's the kind of reply you deserve, logic and facts go crushing over your head.
QeNdEy
No.328059
>>328056
>tho
When did we start allowing hormonal navhijdas on this site? Do you also polish your nails while thinking about cocks of random anon on the internet?
jDeHxn
No.328062
>>328057
I said gujjew wrt the south asian grouping in the video to make it simple for retards to understand.
A south asian person mixed with some east african peoples who migrated from eastern africa during the muslim rule. That's it. It's not difficult to understand
aNThk7
No.328063
>>328055
Kek This, these pajeets get 1-2% white dna and start we wuzzing, are pajeet 99.8% dna is same in all human 🤣
jDeHxn
No.328065
>>328063
We Wuzz white, ? No that's as retàrded.
It's just that amount of proximities in the populace
jDeHxn
No.328068
>>328059
Well, cope ig because you have now run out of points.
4EqaWX
No.328070
aNThk7
No.328072
>>328065
Lund, it’s it’s not about proximity in the populace stop coping. Those tests compare shared DNA segments
If your genome lines up with Scandinavian references, that’s because those markers trace back to ancient Steppe ancestry or shared gene flow, not because someone in your mohalla looks like Thor. Similarly 99.8% dna of all humans is same, this is not something worth kanging over pajeet
4EqaWX
No.328074
>>328063
It goes without saying that regional dna is just a net sun of people in that region. If you check the dna of Pakistani, a large majority of them will be sharing a pretty large chunk with UK. That still doesn't make them Irish (if Muzzies do claim they are infact Irish, they will be raped for that)
However on the other hand I feel like the more you traverse on Varna hierarchy, less you will see foreign regional dna parallel, since UC were far more averted to travelling to other nations when compared to low castes. This was applicable in entire jeet land, even in soyth where Brahmins would avoid travelling by water but fishermen or other low caste would.
I feel another element to this is how backwards state still follow this by heart. For instance the gangu Bamans likely score less than those in Saraswat or Gauda genion or even Karnataka Bamans, since they don't take follow their faith and practices as orthodoxically.
jDeHxn
No.328075
>>328072
And when did I claim whatever you said? Show the (you)
4EqaWX
No.328078
>>328073
>y'll
It's hard to convince others you are not seething when you are agitated to the point you can't type properly. Niche baith, bade baat kar rahe hai.
aNThk7
No.328081
>>328075
You literally implied it when you said it’s just proximity in the populace. That’s downplaying how the data actually works.
Don’t backpedal now, either stand on what you said or admit you didn’t understand it properly.
4EqaWX
No.328084
>>328072
>Similarly 99.8% dna of all humans is same, this is not something worth kanging over pajeet
This, kanging of the shared dna itself is pretty fucking retarded, which is why you won't see the Bamans or Kshatriyas pull a "we wuzz greek" but lower castes will. Jatts on other hand are based since they claim that timmies descended from them
jDeHxn
No.328085
>>328078
Yet another reply without any point and full of seethe. You're already hanging on my dick when it comes to intellectually engaging conversations.
00SVQO
No.328087
>>327977(OP)
Chutiye thats not the genetic makeup of a typical jatt, he's probably mixed race
jDeHxn
No.328093
>>328081
Saying some populations share amount of dna which stems from a similar/ same ancient root isn't equivalent to saying manpreet Singh looks like a thor. Pathetic reading comprehension.
jDeHxn
No.328095
>>328087
It is.
aNThk7
No.328097
>>328087
OP’s whole take falls apart the moment you understand how population genetics works. These tests don’t show random regional proximity, they show shared ancestry segments that trace back to old population flows, steppe, Iranian farmer, AASI, whatever. Acting like it’s some meme about jatts being Vikings just shows you didn’t read how the algorithms work
4EqaWX
No.328098
>>328081
You are assuming that he has any idea behind the words he is using, rather than vomiting a random string of buzz words like most inbréds and subbos do. We wuzzing is itself pretty pretty retarded, it's essentially cuck behaviour, as one can see in kanglus with their we wuzz turks
4EqaWX
No.328100
>>328097
>OP’s whole take falls apart the moment you understand how population genetics works.
This, regardless OP is retarded so whatever this thread was about doesn't matter. Can you elaborate how the dna test talkies different dna samples? This thread can be something little useful instead
4EqaWX
No.328102
>>328089
True, it becomes very convoluted otherwise
jDeHxn
No.328103
>>328089
He's probably a pundit retard who thinks he's some ubermensch compared to other castes being grouped under the SA category and wants to dictate all genetic tests according to the caste system.
aNThk7
No.328104
>>328093
The point is that those shared DNA segments do trace back to common ancestral sources, not just random local proximity. When you reduce that to populations sharing dna, you’re skipping the entire reason we can identify Steppe or CHG influence in the first place.
aNThk7
No.328109
>>328098
Yeah we wuzzing in any direction is pointless. None of this is about claiming some foreign label, it’s just population history written in genes.
jDeHxn
No.328113
>>328104
Do you expect a random person to buy this test and see CHG and AASI or steppe? But you can obviously infer that a research already happened on a deeper level to come at such conclusions
4EqaWX
No.328134
>>328109
>it’s just population history written in genes.
Interesting, can you elaborate how it works further?
aNThk7
No.328140
>>328100
Alright then, serious answer since everyone’s busy we wuzzing here’s how those DNA tests actually work.
The company takes your raw DNA data (from saliva), breaks it down into genetic markers called SNPs. Then it compares those markers against reference panels, basically big databases of people whose ancestry is known and verified from a particular region or population.
The algorithm checks which populations your DNA segments most closely match and in what proportion. That’s how you get numbers like 20% Scandinavian, 30% Iranian, etc. It’s not saying your great grandpa was a Viking, it’s saying those parts of your genome are closest to the genetic signatures found in that area’s reference group.
The kicker is, the accuracy depends on how good the reference data is. If a company has more European samples and fewer South Asian ones, your percentages can skew weirdly.
It’s a statistical similarity model, not a mystical ancestry prophecy, useful when you understand its limits.
>>328105
doesn’t mean you can just wing it. The test still runs off real genetic markers and reference data, not vibes. You can call it whatever you want, but that’s just cope for not knowing how the thing works. At least read what you’re arguing about before flexing IQ points that don’t exist.
>>328113
That’s literally my point retard, those deeper studies are what make the consumer facing percentages even possible. You’re not seeing CHG on your screen, but the model behind it is comparing your markers against populations that trace back to those ancient components.
fcbbq/
No.328145
>>328140
>Do you expect a random person to buy this test and see CHG and AASI or steppe? But you can obviously infer that a research already happened on a deeper level to come at such conclusions
>That’s literally my point retard, those deeper studies are what make the consumer facing percentages even possible. You’re not seeing CHG on your screen, but the model behind it is comparing your markers against populations that trace back to those ancient components.
Repeated my point, try again.
aNThk7
No.328150
>>328134
Basically, every population today carries pieces of DNA from older groups that mixed over thousands of years. Scientists look at which ancient genomes your DNA clusters closest to, Steppe pastoralists, Iranian farmers, AASI hunter gatherers, East Asians, etc.
When you plot those similarities on a PCA chart, you get clines, smooth gradients showing how people in nearby regions blended. That’s why North Indians show more Steppe and Iranian ancestry, while South Indians lean heavier on AASI.
uhw3mG
No.328152
>>328150
>Steppe and Iranian ancestry
Again wrong while you know nothing about how My heritage works. No iranian shows any steppe dna or indian dna. Proving your point of vice versa mental gymnastics wrong again.
aNThk7
No.328156
>>328145
No, you missed the distinction. You were saying people obviously infer deeper research, I am saying those deeper models are actively built into the test, not just something to assume exists. You don’t infer CHG or Steppe, the algorithm uses those reference populations under the hood to spit out the simplified regions you see. That’s the difference between guessing and actually understanding how the backend works.
>>328152
You really dont put any thought behind your words, do you? Iranian in this context doesn’t mean modern day citizens of Iran retard, it refers to the Iran Neolithic or Iran Chalcolithic ancestry that shows up in ancient DNA.
Every South Asian genome has that component mixed with Steppe and AASI in different ratios. Modern Iranians, meanwhile, have extra layers from later West Asian and Caucasus inputs that dilute the Steppe signal, which is why you don’t see it pop up cleanly in their consumer results.
4EqaWX
No.328157
>>328140
>it’s saying those parts of your genome are closest to the genetic signatures found in that area’s reference group.
To clarify, when it draws parallel and checks if the generic component matches with a specific area's reference group, for instance say Mr bund singh Pajeet from Punjab has been living in the Scandinavia for last few decades.
So when another guy called lassi singh hijabi will get his dna get factored in the test, the results of the test saying "Scandinavia", is the 5% talking about quote on quote "Scandinavian" dna, as in everyone who lives their now? (Including bund singh punjabi) Or it is just strictly "natives" when people are drawing the comparison?
As another anon clarified, it would make perfect sense for 10% 8_ Scandinavian is coming from all of the poonjabis in "current time period" immigrating to the region of Scandinavian, driving trucks and what not, so on.
It is a different things if the markers are claiming that at some point scandivanians and the jatas has a common ancestor, on either side of had common paternal ancestors before descendant split away further from each other, and while one ended up in Punjab other ended up in Nordic lands somehow.
I find it confusing because Irish/Welsh are not same thing as steppe. It would make more sense if it showed more in common with Central Asia.
To sum it up,
Is the "Scandinavia" in OP's post claiming that at one point some women in his family slept with the Scandinavian men, their ancestors or it is just claiming that he has some distant distant cousin he doesn't know who live in Scandinavia, which is why he shares something in common with a region he has never been in? Or is it none of the two?
4EqaWX
No.328170
>>328150
>Basically, every population today carries pieces of DNA from older groups that mixed over thousands of years.
>Scientists look at which ancient genomes your DNA clusters closest to, Steppe pastoralists, Iranian farmers, AASI hunter gatherers, East Asians, etc.
So in essense the test is just a less accurate dna test for where your generic components are in saturation. I think the test would be much more cohesive if it was talking about "Iranian Farmer" rather than "Central Asia" to pin point the exact generic component.
For instance Iranian in this day and age have been raped so much by the semitic Arabs that majority of their gene pool has changed. Most Indians have more Iranian than people living in Iran do.
>When you plot those similarities on a PCA chart, you get clines,
>smooth gradients showing how people in nearby regions blended. That’s why North Indians show more Steppe and Iranian ancestry, while South Indians lean heavier on AASI.
Makes sense, still would prefer the meme test was focusing on clines instead of going by the regions. It would be far more interesting to see which cline is saturated in which region in this day and age. It also makes sense why Iran has not much in common with India since none of original generic component was preserved in Iranians after they were raped and crushed by the Arabs. I remember Aslan Pahadi also did a video on this.
aNThk7
No.328178
>>328157
It’s not about modern Punjabis living in Norway messing up the data. The databases for Scandinavia, Ireland, etc. are built mostly from native reference samples, people whose families have been in that region for generations. The people researching on this field aren't dumb to not know that.
When the algorithm says you have 5% Scandinavian, it means that chunk of your DNA lines up closest with the ancient genetic signature that’s most common among those reference Scandinavians. It doesn’t care where people live right now, it’s matching the older inherited markers.
The overlap doesn’t mean someone’s grandma hooked up with a Viking either. It usually traces back to shared ancestry thousands of years ago, like Steppe herders who moved both west into Europe and south into South Asia. That’s why a Punjabi might show a bit of Scandinavian or Irish similarity, it’s picking up that deep Steppe layer, not modern mixing.
4EqaWX
No.328190
>>328152
I think you are confused rape childs of Iran with the persians or ethnic Iranians. Iranian Farmers don't exist in Iran anymore, they were wiped out by the Arabs, Jews and other semitics. Which is why the purest instance is only found in India.
I think you are confusing "region" with clines, regional cluster simply means people that will share your group currently exist the most in the said region. For example germanic people will cluster with saxans, or maybe even canadians, but that doesn't mean the people that exist in Canada are ethnic canadians.
The Iranian ancestory in question (Iranian Farmer and other gatherers) are ethnic people of Iran who kind of simply exist more so densely in India than they do in Iran, thanks to larger group of the zorostrians who migrated away as well.
aNThk7
No.328194
>>328170
Pretty much this, its much better to make distinction based on Ancient populations that actually contributed to the DNA rather than arbitrary regional identities, which can easily get confused with other populations inhabiting the same region.
4EqaWX
No.328197
>>328178
>The databases for Scandinavia, Ireland, etc. are built mostly from native reference samples
That was my initial understanding as well, but I had to confirm, thank you for clarification. I still do think going by region is pretty silly, what the correct thing to do would have specify "steppe found in Scandinavia" so people had a little bit better context on the subject. A lot of people also confuse modern day "Iranian" who are not ethnic Iranian Farmers or Ariyans with each other.
>That’s why a Punjabi might show a bit of Scandinavian or Irish similarity,
This is the part that bugs me because I can see how steppe migration will end up in Scandinavia but i would have expected a lot more of the said result for Jatts or Bamans (who tend to have a little bit more steppe and IVC) to be either in a cluster to Lithuania or something similar rather than Ireland or Wales. I appreciate the detailed explanation however
4EqaWX
No.328201
>>328194
>its much better to make distinction based on Ancient populations that actually contributed to the DNA rather than arbitrary regional identities,
It doesn't help that most green hornes that get into genetics trying to find something to kang on having no idea their is a difference in geno and pheno, let alone knowing the difference between actuall ancient ethnic groups rather than modern population with no real value behind them.
It will confuse people even further since retards will think that modern Scandinavian somehow contributed to Jatts as of now rather than using braincells and figuring out both had a common ancestor and he split away both ways.
The fact it doesn't specify the mt DNA and the haplogroup makes it even harder to determine which one was exactly the source point of the person whose dna is being tested.
vGQHRj
No.328203
>>328140
>At least read what you’re arguing about before flexing IQ points that don’t exist.
Holy shit lmao
