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Semiconductaar Plant Saar
c8BOlT
No.224
Oyee Daayush. Tera semicondactar plant iss saal aayega kya. Sirf cabinet approvals hi Chodi kar sakta hai.


oDrTt5
No.225
>>224(OP)
>sirf cabinet approval
>micron
Anon Tata is already constructing its plants in Dholera and Assam.
Tata already wants to expand for 7nm etc.
Pic related info on few project - but it can be a bit outdated. I don't think 2025 is going to be any operations, maybe next year.
What's the news about, give summary.
VMiAaP
No.226
>>225
It's old news that Viswagoo is gonna start making chips in 2025 kek
OnnNDc
No.227
>>226
Those might be initial estimate or political deadlines.
It doesn't matter if there's one year delay since construction etc are already happening.
Could be just estimate but fab plants are already under construction, I will see if I can post videos.
HOeMyn
No.241


oDrTt5
No.242
>>241
That's alright yaar. Construction is started, that's the most important part. It's not just merely words words words.
OFbDWj
No.243
>>242
Delays are not nothing. The Micron plant was supposed to start by December of 2024.
bArlga
No.244
Micron has obviously got cold feet. They don't see how they will be turning a profit with Indian labour(Lessons learnt from the apple plant ig) and Trump's tarriffs.


oDrTt5
No.245
>>243
only when you start construction estimates come in saaar. i will have to see what exact phrases that article is using.
Idk why you are fixated on micron plant when there are discussions with multiple groups.


oDrTt5
No.246


oDrTt5
No.247
[Blocked URL: https://www.livemint.com/companies/indias-first-semiconductor-fab-to-begin-production-in-2026-11710334850599.html]
>Tata Group aims to begin commercial production from India’s first semiconductor fabrication unit by 2026, an aggressive timeline considering the country’s long wait to become self-reliant in chips that power technology ranging from smartphones to defence systems.
Where's the heendu quoting news from?


oDrTt5
No.248
>>241
That news is a conjecture, tata representative are giving dates for 2025 for assam plant and 2026 for guj plant.
Either way 2024 deal was signed - 3 years for constructoin to begin with pretty much foundation of our fab industry it's alright even if it's 2027. Government has been proactive and kudos to tata for actually pushing further.
Also,
Tata Electronics Pvt. Ltd’s plant in Assam will begin with producing semiconductor chips starting at 28 nanometres, said N. Chandrasekaran, chairman of Tata Sons, the group’s holding company.
India is separately examining a $11.5 billion semiconductor fab project by Israel’s Tower Semiconductor.
Chandrasekaran said the Assam unit will have the capability to produce multiple chips starting from 28 nanometres, with plans for future advancements to 22 nm.
OFbDWj
No.249
>>244
>Lessons learnt from the apple plant ig
what? apple is doing so well, they're now trying to integrate more supplies and add into value addition in india. Apple has until now been the only saving grace of make in india
>>248
the tata fab is the only fab happening right now. I know there are others being talked about like the Tower Adani and the also another in Karnataka, but all of that is on the air still.
Micron isn't the only delay from tata projects either, outside of semiconductor, they are falling short on the noida airport.


oDrTt5
No.250
>>249
>Micron isn't the only delay from tata projects either, outside of semiconductor, they are falling short on the noida airport.
yessir this is true...
e2Y7mL
No.251
e2Y7mL
No.252
OFbDWj
No.253
OFbDWj
No.254
>>253
We will get trade data out in the end of this month and just wait and see the value of export of mobiles phones. It's close to refined petroleum at the top. And most of it is apple.
cFd5Df
No.255
money is sanctioned, construction is underway, it not this year then in a year or two it will happen but subhumans like you can only wish bad things for your own country
OFbDWj
No.256
>>255
Fyi, I'm a realist, so don't lump me in with the same camp as the blackpill guy. Semiconductor industry is at the state that projects, including many outside of India, are being scaled back or delayed across the world. Just look at Intel in Germany, Poland and Vietnam; TSMC in Ohio and Arizona; Samsung in Texas.
D1BwYr
No.263
OFbDWj
No.265
>>263
I literally posted actual example of it, you n1gg3r faggot. In fact, here is more of it now with orange man's tariff autism.
2k317o
No.266
>>265
This is happening because moving away from China is not profitable, not even to Japan or Korea or Thailand. So commercial semicounductor manufacturing is never habbening in India.
OFbDWj
No.267
>>266
You don't know jackshit about what you're talking about. Taiwan along with South Korea dominate in the most advanced nod that China has yet to reach.
VCWCzk
No.268
>>267
You're talking as if India is going to manufacture the higher nodes.
BTW over for everyone else when China figures out higher nodes in a decade.
OFbDWj
No.269
>>268
God, you blackpillers are so fucking braindead.
FgLqLM
No.270
>>269
The chart you posted most likely shows the stats for advanced nodes while I am arguing that India cannot viably manufacture LOW LEVEL nodes on a commercial scake because China can mass produce them at much lower prices. Why would anyone pay for Indian semiconductors when you can buy Chinese ones for cheap?
FgLqLM
No.271
>>270
And India manufacturing HIGH LEVEL nodes are out of the question because the West will not give us the tech.
OFbDWj
No.272
dPmAA0
No.274
black pillers ki maa ka sariya se. I have come toa very good conclusion that this chan's userbase is full of subhuman blackpillers, plebbitors and looksmax.orgfags. no reason for me to argue with people here. I will do same thing as derailing threads but i will do that by raping all these subhuman
OFbDWj
No.276


oDrTt5
No.277
Avoid namecalling, baits. It's a serious board. Ask and get answers or share - don't attack on any person.
Use report option if you see any post is violating any rule. Thank you.
TpzUIh
No.281
rCfFBW
No.282
>>281
the same ones that buy 23 billion dollar worth mobile phones now. chips arent only used in gpus or cpus, everything other thing has a semiconductor, fridge, cars, watches and so on. Billion dollar Investments doesnt take place anywhere or anyplace randomly.
Also having indigenous chips at lower nodes is a different process and manufacturing them with the help of foreign investment is a different game. Major purpose is for domestic consumption and export later on.
YnuDw5
No.285
>>282
Ok. Why would they buy these 200 nm chips frok India when China (who is the worlds biggest manufacturer by a large margin) can make them cheaper because of economies of scale? What incentivises them to spend more money on Indian chips
4Yp8vv
No.287
>>285
poor reading comprehension, china also manufactures smartphones yet india now exports 23 billion dollar worth of them.
First of all there is big enough domestic consumption of semiconductors in india. They dont just expand factories because of cheap labor. it has also to do with a vast domestic market.
xUYvgY
No.288
>>287
>exports 23 billion dollar worth of them.
I do not see how this is relevant but India is just assembling while China manufactures the batteries, chipset, cameras and core technology.
>domestic consumers
Would they buy your chips when Chinese ones, even with added import duty are cheaper?
OFbDWj
No.291
>>281
Apple again.
Ccpshills like you want to sabotage India from rising up the value chain so hard, it's pathetic


oDrTt5
No.292
>>288
>I do not see how this is relevant but India is just assembling while China manufactures the batteries, chipset, cameras and core technology.
This is also not true, you are retorting emotionally instead of searching up what you are saying, our smartphone productions have evolved to now additional value manufacturing involving
>display manufacturing setup by samsung with almost half a billion investment in Noida
>PLI in battery manufacturing - we will do great here
Apart from that investment in other supply chain elements like camera modules etc., even the lense manufacturers are investing here.
Our goal is to reach around 30 to 35% in value addition and most likely we will.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/tata-electronics-partners-with-taiwans-psmc-and-himax-technologies-to-establish-display-manufacturing-unit-in-gujarat/articleshow/118732739.cms This is another plan by Tata into display manufacturing.
>>288
>Would they buy your chips when Chinese ones, even with added import duty are cheaper?
We are working on the value addition without chinese import - the 28nm to 40nm are most common in segments like microcontrollers, normal electronics etc.
Tata is already expanding and preparing ground for 14nm nodes too.


oDrTt5
No.293
>>285
Currently there's a cost benefit analysis. 28nm to 40nm is probably most wide spread usage in common electronics.
180nm is alright in microcontrollers etc. India has various ongoing indigenous projects few based on RISC-V and few on ARM. There was a thread in the past where we went through the list.
If you go further the cost of manufacturing and time delay may not be suitable enough. It's better to start here and then expand to lower nodes hwich is what Tata is doing rn.
India is also investing $2bn usd in SCL
SCL is the one which was working on Shakti processor, 180nm node, and also on 22nm nodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHAKTI_%28microprocessor%29
There's also supercomputer processors like param hansa etc. - i barely recall will need to check.
Micron is taking investment once succeeds we will have sub 10 nm nodes manufacturing too


oDrTt5
No.294
https://www.cdac.in/index.aspx Also, C-DAC is working on AUM HPC processor on TSMC's 5nm technology, ARM based architecture. Along with new motherboard to support these.
there's a good video by GS on it.
Total 96 cores can be supported, dual chiplets. Indigenous motherboard. etc. Each motherboard can support two such processors so 96x2 cores.
This year it should be out probably. We are not manufacturing it though maybe in future.
Shakti processors are already there.
So some interesting work is being done by IITs, C-DAC and SCL combo along with private bodies.


oDrTt5
No.295
>>294
Shakti processor video by GS.
OFbDWj
No.328
Intersting happening - TATA appointed former GlobalFoundaries president of Asia and China region to head it's semiconductor buisness


oDrTt5
No.329
>>328
Cool. A bit of news on solar cell manufacturing
>The state-of-the-art 5.4 GW solar cell manufacturing facility of Warree Energy was inaugurated by Union Minister of New and Renewable Energy Pralhad Joshi.