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Is Shiva an Indo-European deity?

Anonymous

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fLKU/W

No.997

Unlike Vishnu, Shiva is not mentioned in the Vedas. Rudra, with whom Shiva was later identified, originally seems to have had no connection to Shiva until the composition of the Shvetashvatara Upanishad (around the 2nd century BCE–2nd century CE).

Anonymous

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+60iC/

No.999

>>997(OP)

Rudra isn't a singular deity in the veda, it is a collection of them, Shiva being one of them makes perfect sense.

Anonymous

IN

fLKU/W

No.1001

>>999

My impression is that Shiva (as he's seen by Hindus today) is the result of syncretism, mixing Vedic religion with local, pre-Aryan traditions of South Asia.

Shiva is Aryan

The Lingam worship is not

Shatarudriyam in Taittiriya samhita which is most comprehensive collection in Veda to Rudra (prototype of modern Hindu 'Shiva'), doesn't mention any phallic worship.

Anonymous

ARYA

GIC5cr

No.1159

>>1001

>is the result of syncretism, mixing Vedic religion with local, pre-Aryan traditions of South Asia.

I can abide by this, but I wonder if their was ever a common link between them prior to both the aspects of faith merging into one.

>>1001

>Shatarudriyam in Taittiriya samhita which is most comprehensive collection in Veda to Rudra (prototype of modern Hindu 'Shiva'), doesn't mention any phallic worship.

I have noticed this myself, I feel like I need to further study or from two different angles and then tally it to draw any conclusions on the subject. Looking at whole picture may be a better way to tackle it, both evolution of worship through lense of history and how populace saw him as lingam rather entirety.

Anonymous

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5DzLA8

No.1160

>>1001

>is the result of syncretism, mixing Vedic religion with local, pre-Aryan traditions of South Asia

Oh, so the entire Vedic tradition including the Rgveda

Anonymous

ARYA

lnJdGY

No.1231

>>1160

Technically vedas were passed by the word, so it only makes sense that vedas as we know and so were written down were a coagulation of all the native spiritual and theological elements with the migratory one of Aryan subsect of PIE.