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inl2cM
No.345476
catholic church banned cousin marriage in europe around 12th century to get rid of tribes which were at that time more important for a person in comparison to church.
RSS in modern India is trying hard to ban caste census so that shudras forget their caste since we don't have similar religious systems like dwijas to carry forward out caste idenities through the help of religion and rituals.

inl2cM
No.345478
i think this post is too high iq for bharatchan to understand
eFlqSl
No.345483
Ache se frame kar pajeet
Captcha: wort

inl2cM
No.345493
>>345483
shudras without caste identities will become much weaker and then it will we easier for dwijas to exploit them

inl2cM
No.345499
>>345493

UDGvfm
No.345503
>>345476(OP)
Spread the message of SGTOW far and wide

UDGvfm
No.345508
>>345478
Hello bro. I am the guy who makes SGTOW threads, you seem intelligent, please contribute more to bhch and SGTOW
Are you a Shudra?
hAvcU3
No.345516
>>345499
It also by extension weakened the core family system as well, not just clan based family system, and by extension the church.
So maybe just let RSS work out their own destruction instead?
pcDnim
No.345518
>>345493
Agreed but where is caste annihilation by bjp? It still offers perks for being x gorillionth caste

inl2cM
No.345524
>>345508
dwijas consider me shudra I guess. But I am not supposed to know since I can't read religious texts to know about varna system. All I know is that my ancestors were denied entry in temple garbhagrihas about which I don't really care since most of us aren't really religious to begin with. They can have fun fun with their gods in their temples. Their gods and religion doesn't justify their superiority over me in my perspective. Thus no bitter grudges. I am just a shudra going my own way.
Its quite similar to how they see europeans as inferior from a religious perspcective but things are entirely different on ground in real life.

inl2cM
No.345530
>>345516
its shudras who will bear the burnt the most since we don't have solid religious foundations like dwijas. RSS is destroying shudra traditional societies by peddling Hindu Hindu bhai bhai narrative so that we forget about our castes.

inl2cM
No.345534
>>345518
Hindutva project demands unity for which hindus must vote together forgetting their caste differences. Bihar results are a testimony that this narrative is working.

fqqIGu
No.345539
>>345476(OP)
>carry forward out caste idenities through the help of religion and rituals.
Shudra jatis do have their own rituals though but the issue is lack of legitimacy. Some shudras go on to sanskritize themselves to gain legitimacy and this is how some jatis come to identify as sat shudra
Shk2q3
No.345543
>>345539
Sat shudras were high caste but their status got discredited as they stopped following rituals
You shall not speak on topic you have no idea about
Shk2q3
No.345545
> Sat-sudra is a classification used to describe high-caste groups who are originally Brahmins, Kshatriyas, or Vaishyas but do not follow their Vedic rites, hence becoming sudras in ritual rank.

inl2cM
No.345551
>>345539
which shudras jatis have their own rituals ? I only know of Bishnois having their own rituals and their own 'dhaam' (Mukti Dham Mukam in Rajasthan) where they worship the founder of their sect and go in circles around a fire altar.
IzrWPQ
No.345553
Shk2q3
No.345555
>>345554
And? Stop diverting the topic, you are wrong about sat shudras
NJ7fOC
No.345556
Stick to one general shudrajeets

inl2cM
No.345560
>>345555
how do you know if one qualifies as sat shudra or even shudra to begin with ?
By referring toa book written in 20th century ?
Thats very disgraceful and ignoble of your dwija sir. You are in no position to talk down to my fellow shudra brother.

y0fEfi
No.345566
>>345524
Based man, you are the example of SGTOW
Shk2q3
No.345567
>>345560
Every single caste have documented history

inl2cM
No.345572
NolSJE
No.345612
>>345493
Doubt it. Weakened caste identities will be replaced by regional ethnic identities (bengali, punjabi, tamil, marathi, etc) which will be detrimental to dwijas

inl2cM
No.345646
>>345612
ethnic identities have no real organic basis. Caste identities are built upon blood ties. Regions are merely political divisions.

y0fEfi
No.345686
>>345572
Please participate in my SGTOW threads, even 2 of us discussing or even chilling will be great
We can get more Shudras
I am sure there are more Shudras on bhch given the population in india, most larp as dwijas but are shudras

y0fEfi
No.345689
>>345612
Weakened caste identity will be replaced by national handoo identity where shudras will suffer most

inl2cM
No.345698
>>345689
very true

y0fEfi
No.345702
>>345698
In any national level hindu identity dwijas will dominate. There is pan india Kshatriya, brahmin links
Same for jains/Baniya
But only Yadavs amongst shudras have a semblance of pan india presence and notice how they are hated the most

inl2cM
No.345707
>>345702
I don't think yadavs are hated outside of north indian politics particularly UP & Bihar. But you are correct about rest of the thing.
The dwijas used their caste nepotism to build networks in all fields throghout the country and beyond and now they want us Shudras to forget about our castes so that we don't challenge these nepotistic built networks through our nepotism. Very clever of them.

y0fEfi
No.345711
>>345707
We can just invoke SGTOW though. The way to avoid this is refusing to identify with mainstream hinduism and walking away from it

inl2cM
No.345714
>>345711
>walking away from it
I would chose to be indifferent towards Hinduism. I don't want to side with enemies of Brahmans because I don't have a solid reason to hate them. Also I dislike Islam and Christianity because these religion are inherently anti-cast.

y0fEfi
No.345726
>>345714
That's why I named it sgtow
Going your own way
Even I don't want to side with islam and Christianity

inl2cM
No.345733
>>345726
I think we shudras should migrate to another country enmasse to build a fortune but most of our population is very poor and very deeply rooted with the land and patriotism.
Also the successful shudras don't seem to care much about other shudras. Narendra Modi is an example.
2XRFlI
No.345737
>>345714
>Also I dislike Islam and Christianity because these religion are inherently anti-cast
How is that a bad thing? You chmaars finally get some dignity atleast.

inl2cM
No.345741
>>345737
we are not chamars. We are proud of our forefathers and our caste identities.
2XRFlI
No.345744
>>345741
>our caste identities.

inl2cM
No.345746
>>345744
our ancestors weren't gutter cleaners

























































